[HN Gopher] Got food cravings? What's living in your gut may be ...
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Got food cravings? What's living in your gut may be responsible
Author : gmays
Score : 141 points
Date : 2022-04-22 16:02 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| smallerfish wrote:
| Does anybody know of good research which shows how long it takes
| the microbiome to adjust if you significantly change diet? New
| diets can be hard to stick with initially, and it seems like the
| gut's "needs" may be a real cause of this.
| hirundo wrote:
| I'm a long-time serial dieter who has radically changed my diet
| on several occasions now, from SAD to vegitarian to SAD to
| vegan to SAD to raw vegan to SAD to FODMAP to SAD to McDougall
| high carb to paleo low carb to meat-centered to (currently)
| carnivore. (Among others.)
|
| Each time (moving to non-SAD) it takes around six months before
| I stop naturally losing weight and either stabilize (on
| carnivore) or start heading back up (on everything else). I
| attribute this mostly to the microbiome, so by my own N=1
| experiments, I'd say about six months.
| kshacker wrote:
| As a fellow failed dieter, just trying to find something that
| will work for me ...
|
| So you switch diets because you stabilize and want more
| weight loss, OR because they stop working? Curious to hear
| about the switch.
|
| My personal preference is sugar-free. Successful for 2 years
| from 2016-2018, and now trying low-sugar (not no sugar) since
| January 2022, and reasonably successful although not much
| (just 6 lbs about 3%) to show for it.
| hirundo wrote:
| I was a failed dieter from age 7 to 57. It took me that
| long to figure out that this body works best on animal
| products. I was never a particular meat eater and had to be
| forced to try it by an inability to move my bowels on
| anything else. But it has reduced and stabilized my weight
| like nothing else has, while all but eliminating my
| cravings for SAD food. I really like eating this way now,
| and get as much or more pleasure from food than ever.
|
| When I switched it was in despair over failure. They all
| (but the last) stopped working, though I continued to
| follow them religiously. For years I was an obsessive food
| diarist, and have books full of logs on what I ate, with
| charts showing how my weight gradually stabilized well
| before goal, and started going up again. This followed the
| trend of my appetite. When I switch diets my appetite goes
| down, and it recovers gradually over that half-year.
|
| I think going sugar-free is a great move, but from sources
| like https://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/ have come to
| think that avoiding seed-oils is even more important, over
| a span of decades.
| mirceal wrote:
| imagine all the microbiome meetings and all the unhappy
| little fellas having to go through a reorg every 6 months. :)
| mech422 wrote:
| LOL - I snorted ...
|
| Maybe they can 'pivot' in a new direction :-)
| mirceal wrote:
| need to receive a VC cash infusion immediately to prevent
| hitting the end of their cash runway!
| octokatt wrote:
| This was a good enough question I started researching. TL;DR:
| Your microbiome adapts quickly, but you don't get to see the
| full effects for weeks to months.
|
| Turns out, your microbiome will shift significantly within a
| few days of changing your diet [0]. A more recent study showed
| that increasing raw vegetables in your diet significantly
| changed microbiome at about the same speed [1].
|
| However, because the _effects_ of a healthy microbiome are
| things like better vitamin reception and disease prevention [2]
| [3], it can take months to see the effects of something like
| better B12 can take weeks to see [4]. Disease prevention of
| metabolic diseases takes years to see fully.
|
| [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-guts-
| microbio... [1]
| https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/10/study-finds-g...
| [2]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiome#Disease_and_d...
| [3]
| https://depts.washington.edu/ceeh/downloads/FF_Microbiome.pd...
| [4] https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/cyanocobalamin/
| virtuallynathan wrote:
| It's very quick:
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957428/
| narrator wrote:
| I'm on day 10 of a 14 day water fast. The hunger was very bad for
| about the first 7 days and now its been nothing. The idea of
| eating is interesting to me, but the visceral hunger constantly
| reminding me to eat isn't there anymore. Long term fasting is
| great like that.
| herpderperator wrote:
| Are you really not eating for 2 weeks?
| narrator wrote:
| Yes, really. Some people do it for 30 days or more if they
| have a very large amount of weight to lose. You have to take
| electrolytes (potassium, sodium, magnesium), and it should
| never be done if underweight. I started getting seriously
| into fasting when I asked all the people I met at longevity
| conferences who looked extremely good for their age what
| practices they used. The ones who looked the best for their
| age were longer-term fasters.
|
| Fun fact, the longest fast was 382 days[1]. The guy started
| at 456 lbs and ended up at 180 lbs.
|
| [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri%27s_fast
| lukewrites wrote:
| I'd love to learn more about the longevity conferences
| you've attended, if you don't mind.
| filoleg wrote:
| I am very curious about a couple of things regarding that
| experience, so I hope you dont mind if I ask a question. I
| want to preface it by saying that I am not trying to
| dismiss this pracice as inherently dangerous or bad
| (because I frankly have no idea).
|
| While with 14 days of it probably not being a concern in
| that aspect, but do people who do it for much longer
| periods (100+ days, or maybe even less would qualify) not
| have any atrophy-related issues in relevant systems?
| Anything related to their intestines and all the way to the
| exit, wouldn't they lose a significant amount of their
| ability to do their jobs properly? I am not saying they
| should be able to start processing 5000kcal of carb heavy
| food immediately in a single meal after the fasting stops
| with no issues (as that 5000kcal meal can would give quite
| a lot of healthy people who dont fast issues as well), but
| would their intestines actually be able to function fine
| again? I mean, for something even as banal as sphincter
| muscles, I am simply lost. Is human body actually that
| adaptable to handle it like a no big deal?
| narrator wrote:
| In long-term fast of more than a week there's the
| possibility of refeeding syndrome. If the person fasting
| hasn't kept up with their electrolytes, they can have
| possibly fatal issues if they absolutely gorge themselves
| when stopping the fast. When I end the fast, I am going
| to proceed gently for the first couple of days before
| resuming a normal diet even though I have used an
| electrolyte formulation to keep my electrolyte levels at
| an optimal level.
| julianeon wrote:
| You could always do the "lite" version like me.
|
| I eat one day and fast the next. I rode this very simple
| procedure to melt away 40 lbs (was easy). I have been
| doing this for about 3 months, lately my weights been
| stable as I've skipped fast days.
|
| I also only eat for about one hour on days when I do eat;
| normally it seems like the sugar rush becomes noticeable
| at the one hour mark, so even if you eat for the whole
| hour, that will pause you.
|
| My experience:
|
| 1st day of fasting is the hardest. But if you are fasting
| every other day obviously you'll get used to it.
|
| You become aware that your imagination (imagining
| savoring the food etc.) was a big part of your eating.
| Knowing that it's easier to not eat.
|
| I don't know what it's like to skip food for multiple
| days (well, more than 2), but for 48 hours between meals,
| it's very doable, and stops feeling "heroic" (or needing
| massive willpower) pretty quickly. It just feels like
| your stomachs vacation day - which feels good.
| obblekk wrote:
| I didn't realize this until recently, but we don't actually know
| every chemical compound that's in our blood. As in, I don't
| believe there has been a study that takes 1 liter of blood and
| just documents every chemical structure found (at any
| concentration).
|
| Realizing that + learning about the seemingly vast gut microbiome
| has definitely led me to feel more humbled about what we know and
| can predict about human biology.
|
| I now think it's possible (but certainly not proven) that some
| hard to anticipate cascade of compounds (produced by gut, or
| foods, or environmental, or whatever) could be responsible for
| significantly increasing subjective feelings of hunger across the
| population at large, and this could lead to more calories being
| eaten than needed.
|
| I'm actually optimistic that this has happened, because then
| there might be an effective way to reverse the health problems we
| see... much like removing leaded gasoline seems to have helped
| reduce crime rates.
| tamaharbor wrote:
| Why is it scientists would have us believe that they know
| everything definitively regarding covid, covid vaccines,
| climate change, etc?
| pc86 wrote:
| Literally no scientist has ever said that they know
| everything definitively about any topic, let alone those.
| coding123 wrote:
| But we ascribe policy as if they do know 100%.
| Spivak wrote:
| I think there's a difference between "we make and adjust
| policy based on the strongest theory we have with an
| extra dose of caution" and "we think science is
| infallible."
| pc86 wrote:
| The fact that politicians are idiots, in addition to
| surprising approximately zero people, shouldn't be used
| to impugn science.
| darkteflon wrote:
| Mate, go over to the Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com)
| and read through their coronavirus coverage starting all the
| way back at the beginning of 2020. You have been sold a lie
| in your little TikTok bubble.
| adamrezich wrote:
| there is this sort of modern attitude toward science that
| tacitly assumes that we understand some sufficient majority of
| the nature of reality, when in fact reality is apparently
| infinitely fractal.
| throwaway4aday wrote:
| I think most of the gaps in our understanding of biology stem
| from the scale at which we exist. Most biology takes place at
| the cellular or even the molecular level, we only see the
| very far removed macro-scale effects of a myriad of
| intertwined processes.
| mirceal wrote:
| hah. not even close. we had moderate success in understanding
| and modeling some phenomena, but in the grand scheme of
| things we don't know much. which is both scary and great if
| you have a curios mind
| r3trohack3r wrote:
| Have you come across the environmental theory of obesity?
|
| https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/11/23/a-chemical-hunger-p...
| netizen-936824 wrote:
| The complexity of life is nuts. Once you start learning about
| how things work, you can see that we only know a tiny fraction
| of what's going on
| eastbound wrote:
| Organic growth is like "Throw bits into the computer and see
| whether they make NPM."
|
| ...And the complexity of an NPM project is nuts, actually.
| zionic wrote:
| I mean sure, I'd love a scalpel but right now we don't even
| have a hammer.
|
| It would be fantastic to do something even as simple as shut
| off the hunger signal for set intervals.
|
| Imagine if you literally couldn't feel hunger from say...
| 10am to 6pm. There's all sorts of cool hacks we do to improve
| humanity if we could get a grip on cravings.
| mirceal wrote:
| not only that, but our gut is literally the 2nd brain of our
| bodies. Read somewhere that there are more than 200 million in
| our gut. To put it in perspective, that's more neurons that all
| the neurons in a dog's brain.
| throwaway1777 wrote:
| Highly doubt there is a silver bullet. There are likely a
| myriad of reasons because diets and genetics are so diverse.
| Sugar is the obvious villain though.
| layer8 wrote:
| > a study that takes 1 liter of blood and just documents every
| chemical structure found (at any concentration)
|
| That's because we don't actually have the technology to do
| that. You can test for specific compounds that you know how to
| test for, and if their concentration is high enough. But
| there's currently no way to e.g. go through a given sample
| molecule by molecule.
| DantesKite wrote:
| Both these comments are a great way of putting it. I never
| thought about this before. Very interesting.
| daanlo wrote:
| I thought you would be able to do this with a mass
| spectrometer. Although you would probably need a lot of blood
| :)
| gxt wrote:
| Exactly, IBM can make movies using individual atoms, surely
| we aren't too far from being able to look at molecular
| structures and deduce what compounds are in a sample of
| blood.
| heavyset_go wrote:
| You'd typically need reference samples if you're trying to
| get a typical lab to analyze compounds via mass
| spectrometry, which would make identification of unknown
| substances in blood hard for non-researchers.
| montecarl wrote:
| A mass spectrometer by itself, will tell you the mass to
| charge ratio of ions in a sample. In most samples the
| molecules themselves are not ions naturally and need to be
| ionized. This can be done using a number of techniques, but
| a common one is electron impact ionization, where electrons
| are slammed into molecules causing them to fragment into
| charged ions. This smashes the molecules up into small
| charged chunks which can then be analyzed by the mass spec.
| These mass spectra are good fingerprints for the original
| molecule and can be mapped back to what molecule must have
| been smashed to produced them. However, if you try to
| analyze the mass spectrum of a mixture of molecules that
| are similar you will not be able to deconvolute the result
| into any unique answer, i.e. there will be many possible
| mixtures of molecules that could have resulted in the mass
| spectrum.
|
| This limitation of mass spectrometry can be overcome by
| first separating out the mixture of molecules you want to
| analyze into different fractions before they are ionized
| and enter the mass spectrometer. One common way to do this
| is to use a gas chromatography column. This works by first
| heating the sample so that it turns into a gas, and then
| passing it through a long column that is packed with a
| material that will interact with the gas and slow some
| molecules more than others. Often it is packed with silica.
| In this way you get the technique called GC-MS (gas
| chromatography/mass spectrometry).
|
| GC-MS is a fantastic technique for analyzing complex
| mixtures but it will have its limits if there are too many
| different types of molecules in the mixture. In blood there
| will be tiny molecules like O2 and CO2 and giant macro-
| molecules like DNA. There is no technique I know of that
| can analyze such a wide range of molecular masses in one
| go. Plus mass spectrometry doesn't directly give you the
| structure just the masses of the fragments after you blow
| up the molecules (or the total mass if a more gentle
| ionization technique is used as is sometimes done for
| macromolecules).
|
| I write all this just to explain how there aren't any
| analytical instruments that you just inject a sample into
| and out pops all the chemicals and their concentrations.
| Blood is a amazing soup of different elements and molecules
| and a full analysis requires a large number of steps and
| different analytical techniques to get even close to fully
| characterizing.
| carlmr wrote:
| Thank you, I've always wondered about these but was too
| lazy to check.
| Etheryte wrote:
| What a gloriously through yet understandable explanation
| of the problem and its context, thank you.
| raylad wrote:
| Mass spec (at least as of a few years ago) require
| reference spectra to identify compounds. Without them, you
| can guess at structure but it's not accurate.
| RugnirViking wrote:
| Something that's always confused me is how I get powerful
| cravings for sugar, but am relatively untempted by salty foods or
| carbohydrates, wheras my sister(very close in age to myself)
| isn't tempted at all by sugar but is a sucker for salty foods. We
| grew up in a presumably quite similar culinary environment. I've
| often wondered If the differences can be explained by gut
| bacteria.
|
| Also, surely the claim that this is the first study to show a
| link between gut bacteria and food choice is wrong? I'm pretty
| I've known about the link for years?
| matthewdgreen wrote:
| There's a ton of very new research on this. The big exciting
| candidate right now is Akkermansia muciniphila, which seems to
| emit a glucagon-like peptide that moderates appetite [1] (similar
| to drugs like Wegovy, only maybe without the side effects.) The
| western high-fat/carb diet also seems to cause Akkermansia
| populations to drop precipitously, which may be either cause or a
| separate side-effect of the obesity epidemic.
|
| Apparently supplementing Akkermansia in obese mice has extremely
| beneficial effects on weight and all sorts of health measures. I
| tried some from the only supplier in the US and (unfortunately)
| noticed absolutely no difference, N=1. Still, I am eagerly
| awaiting the day when someone conclusively nails the obesity
| epidemic down to something as simple as gut dysbiosis.
|
| [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-00880-5
| alimov wrote:
| Grain Brain is an interesting read that covers in a pop-sci way
| some of the various research being done.
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| _Still, I am eagerly awaiting the day when someone conclusively
| nails the obesity epidemic down to something as simple as gut
| dysbiosis._
|
| That's unlikely to happen. Nutritional content of produce has
| gone down, people eat fewer home-cooked meals and we drive more
| and walk less, among other things. So it's not likely to boil
| down to "This one simple trick!" that can be solved with a
| simple product one can buy for cheap.
| matthewdgreen wrote:
| If you look at the timing of the obesity epidemic you notice
| that it has a very sharp "knee" in the US around the 1970s.
| It does not coincide with the introduction of fast food or
| the automobile or sedentary living, and contemporary people
| exercise _more_ in many cases than they did in the 60s and
| 70s, with vastly higher BMI as a result. The same pattern
| occurs in other countries just at later times. And the effect
| size is _huge_. Much larger than anything we can achieve with
| diet and exercise (durably) or even the best weight loss
| drugs. I don't know what's causing it, but "gosh people eat
| poorly" doesn't seem like a good explanation. I thought this
| was a good (amateur, but accessible) summary of some of the
| stats: https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/07/07/a-chemical-
| hunger-p...
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| _I don't know what's causing it, but "gosh people eat
| poorly" doesn't seem like a good explanation._
|
| I'm not sure what your point is because what I said boils
| down to "There seem to be multiple factors, not any one
| thing."
|
| I've lost multiple dress sizes by improving my health when
| losing weight wasn't a goal at all. Among other things,
| that experience informs my views and I don't really know
| how to engage whatever point you are trying to make that
| seems to not really engage with anything I actually said.
|
| But thank you for the link. It's got a take I hadn't
| previously seen.
| echelon wrote:
| While I'm fairly convinced that a lot of dysfunction gets a
| helping hand from microbiota imbalance, including such faraway
| targets as pulmonary, cardiac, and even neurodegenerative
| disorders [1], I think there's a simpler culprit: sugar.
| Metabolism of simple sugars changes biochemical gears, and we
| as a culture and society are heavy on its use.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29882347
| matthewdgreen wrote:
| Sugar definitely seems bad, but doesn't explain why simple
| fecal transplants are able to replicate many of the health
| effects of a low-carb diet without the actual diet, at least
| in some obese mice [1]. (PS I am definitely not an expert in
| this area, just someone who is tired of eating low-carb to
| maintain weight, and wondering why other people can just eat
| normal food.)
|
| [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6199268/
| bbarnett wrote:
| _The western high-fat /carb diet also seems to cause
| Akkermansia populations to drop_
|
| The West, typically, eats a tiny, tiny fraction of the fat it
| used to. And also far less animal fat.
|
| Do you know what went in soups, stews? Bones, with fat, for
| flavour, and energy, and nutrition.
|
| What were pies made of? Pies, made to allow older apples and
| such, to be used past their best date?
|
| Loads of animal fat in the crust.
|
| And, especially in Canada, our pork is now leaner than beef was
| 50 years ago! And our beef is silly lean.
|
| We eat far, far less fat than our ancestors, who would never
| throw away such valuable, nutritious calories.
|
| If the simple metric is, why were we thin before, and
| overweight now? And if the answer is "our diet changed", then
| this logic means we should all be eating about 10x the calories
| we currently do, in animal fat, and tapering off the rest.
|
| What if all those craving are just simply "the body needs more
| nutritious fat". Just like our ancestors ate.
|
| What if we crave salty snacks, coated in vegetable oil (potato
| chips), because our body desperately wants salty fat?
|
| Being overweight is far, far more unhealthy than eating more
| animal fat daily.
|
| What if the cost of low fat diets, is an irresistable urge
| which causes weight gain?
|
| If so, low fat diets are, therefore, very unhealthy... because
| being overweight is far worse.
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| I'd focus on getting fruit, vegetables, legumes, fiber, and
| everything that comes with it back into the western diet
| before I'd look at animal fat as the silver bullet we're
| missing.
|
| Too few animal products doesn't seem like the thing the SAD
| is missing, either.
| oblak wrote:
| Indeed. All this talk about a proper diet without ever
| mentioning anything but animal flesh and fat.
|
| Can't be the excess food intake. Like too much sweets and
| meat. No. Fat people are not eating enough fat. It's so
| simple.
| wincy wrote:
| I mean I lost 80 pounds literally eating cheap hot dogs
| and kimchi for 6 months. It might be that simple.
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| That's almost zero carbs (if we're talking about
| "sausage" hodogs, and not "sausage-in-bread-bun"
| hotdogs)... fat makes you feel full faster and longer,
| and kimchi add vitamins and almost zero calories, so no
| wonder you're losing weight :)
|
| Replace those with potato chips and chocolate, and you'll
| be fat very soon :)
| matthewdgreen wrote:
| I think the upshot of much of this research is that sugar
| and fat aren't directly the issue. That gut bacteria
| actually have a much bigger impact on both energy
| expenditure and appetite than we thought. Insofar as diet
| has a major effect on obesity (in the epidemic sense
| we're seeing in the US) it might be due to diet having a
| harmful effect on gut bacteria. Or it might not. It's an
| intriguing hypothesis, and it's disappointing to see it
| devolving into an argument about "not eating too many
| sweets."
| nvusuvu wrote:
| I eliminated food cravings in perhaps an unorthodox method. It
| wasn't my intention, but I am better off for it I believe. I
| started with a 72 hour fast (water only). After that, I had a
| bite of a steamed carrot and the experience immediately after
| tasting the carrot was the biggest natural high of my life. It
| was like my brain dumped every pleasure producing chemical into
| my bloodstream. I started to focus on healthy veggies and
| fish/chicken with small servings of nuts and avocados. I lost 20
| pounds (so far) and don't craze processed sugars like I have in
| the past. When you stop eating a lot of sugar, the gut biome
| bacteria chlamydia starves I think, and you are much healthy for
| it.
| Tade0 wrote:
| I had a similar experience when we introduced our child to
| solids - we all ate the same meal so obviously added sugar and
| salt were out of the question.
|
| Within two weeks I started experiencing flavours that I
| previously had no idea were there - especially rice has a
| different taste initially than after it's chewed.
|
| I used to eat those instant ramen noodles every other day. Now
| I can't stand the salt content.
| nvusuvu wrote:
| I was telling people that the carrot tasted like candy to me
| and they looked at me like I had lost my mind.
| lostcolony wrote:
| Dunno if you care or not since they're still not healthy
| (just starch basically, but, instant ramen without the
| 'flavor' packet has all sorts of great ways of preparing it.
| Budget Bytes has some excellent suggestions -
| https://www.budgetbytes.com/?s=ramen
| QuercusMax wrote:
| Starches like rice will taste different if you allow saliva
| to work on them - your saliva contains enzymes which break
| down starches into sugars. This is commonly demonstrated in
| middle school science classes by having kids chew a saltine
| cracker, and taste how it starts out bland and ends up
| tasting sweet as you hold it in your mouth.
| globular-toast wrote:
| Actually _anjoying_ food is, somewhat paradoxically, a great
| way to control weight.
|
| Watch fat people eat. It's like they are trying to maximise
| calorie intake. Food is shovelled in. Bites are taken before
| the previous one is even swallowed. They don't really enjoy the
| taste of the food, they just want the feeling of hunger to go
| away as quickly as possible.
|
| Watch how French people eat. It's not about survival, it's
| about enjoyment. Each bite is savoured. Time is taken to
| appreciate the food. It's one of the most important times of
| the day.
|
| French people eat like they're making love. Fat people eat like
| they're jacking off to porn to deal with the daily urges.
| darkteflon wrote:
| Needs citation.
| heavyset_go wrote:
| Eliminating sugars or salt will make you realize just how
| overly sweet and salty most food that isn't prepared at home
| is.
| wincy wrote:
| It's wild to me how heavy cream tastes sweet after you
| acclimate to a low sugar diet. It has something like 1g of
| sugar for every 12g of fat (if I remember from the label)
| wincy wrote:
| I think I did this too, but in reverse! Unfortunately I
| couldn't get to the store fast enough after my 72 hour fast,
| and my stomach hurt so bad that I ended up eating a Chalupa.
| Then I gained 60 pounds. Oops.
| standardUser wrote:
| Similarly, I have found that every time I severely limit carbs
| for a solid 3-4 days my appetite flatlines instead of rapidly
| rising and falling throughout the day. And everything starts to
| taste better. And I have way less gas.
| colechristensen wrote:
| > the gut biome bacteria chlamydia starves I think, and you are
| much healthy for it.
|
| I believe you are thinking of candida which is a kind of yeast
| which is fungi not bacteria.
| vmception wrote:
| fungi are smarter and more meticulous than bacteria, so I'm
| willing to believe they could dictate our preferences
| nvusuvu wrote:
| Yes, you are right. candida. Thanks for the correction.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| I think that you are correct. I have been on Dr. Fuhrman's
| Eat to Live diet a few times: start by eating no processed
| food and drastically reduce sugar intake unless it is berries
| or a little fruit. After about a week, the level of candida
| in your system is reduced to levels closer to what humans had
| > 50 years ago. At this point, all sorts of food cravings
| (especially deserts) go away, and homemade meals from natural
| ingredients taste very good. The first time I went on this
| diet, I felt 10 or 15 years younger with lots of energy.
| nvusuvu wrote:
| This has been my experience. I have lots more energy and
| zero cravings and hungry pains are truly a thing of the
| past.
| The_rationalist wrote:
| armchairhacker wrote:
| This 100% lines up with my experience, every time I've changed my
| diet I started to prefer the foods I was eating. Instead of
| palate fatigue, eating something a lot causes me to crave it
| more.
|
| I used to eat a diet of mostly frozen foods. Then I made an
| effort to eat more vegetables and suddenly started craving
| vegetables. I use to prefer high-carb low-fat, then I started
| eating more meat and gradually shifted to preferring low-carb
| high-fat, except when I took a break and alternated between the
| two.
| codyb wrote:
| I've been getting some bad acid reflux lately leading to gnawing
| in my stomach due to a lifestyle with lots of going out recently
| as the weather gets better and more events start happening and
| everyone comes out from covid and the winter. Looking forward to
| a hopefully relaxing May to take it easy for a bit!
|
| It's amazing how much yogurt helps though. It's very noticeable,
| and very quick.
| nwe wrote:
| In case anyone get the idea from reading the article that
| tryptophan and serotonin are good for you, check out Ray Peat and
| he has extensive writings on them.
| rednerrus wrote:
| My observation is that there are two type of brains when it
| comes to processing serotonin. One type processes it quickly
| and increased serotonin increases good feelings. The other type
| processes it very slowly and increased serotonin creates all
| kinds of problems for this type. This type also tends to
| struggle with slow processing of catecholamines.
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