[HN Gopher] The Weird and Wonderful World of AI Art
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The Weird and Wonderful World of AI Art
Author : jxmorris12
Score : 124 points
Date : 2022-04-22 14:21 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| jxmorris12 wrote:
| Hi, I'm the author of this post. I hope you all enjoy it! I
| researched and wrote this back in January, and although the main
| ideas are still relevant, the landscape of AI art generation has
| changed quite a bit in just three months. Here are some important
| new developments:
|
| - DALL-E 2: https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
|
| - Midjourney: https://twitter.com/midjourney
|
| - Laion 5B dataset: https://laion.ai/laion-5b-a-new-era-of-open-
| large-scale-mult...
|
| - Compvis latent diffusion: https://github.com/CompVis/latent-
| diffusion
|
| Since the field is moving so quickly, this newsletter is a good
| way to try to stay on top of things: https://multimodal.art/news
|
| Also I went on Yannic Kilcher's podcast to talk about this!
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkenV-ZdJU&ab_channel=Yanni...
| devindotcom wrote:
| Glad you did this. I started working on something myself in
| January as I was dabbling in it but the whole scene was
| evolving so fast I was like, by the time I write it the piece
| will seem like a time capsule. The survey/history style is good
| and educational, maybe this will spur me to put out the effort
| and do my own..
| mdp2021 wrote:
| > _this newsletter is a good way_
|
| Thank you! ...RSS?
|
| Edit: same "...RSS?" is valid for your blog, at
| https://jxmo.io/ ...
|
| PS: the article: very precious summary!
| jxmorris12 wrote:
| I think this link works: https://jxmo.io/feed.xml
| mdp2021 wrote:
| Thank you!
|
| In case one day you'll want to increase its use, I suggest
| to put it at least in the homepage source (where we go
| check if we find there a literal 'rss', or 'feed', or maybe
| 'xml').
| JJMcJ wrote:
| Interesting article.
|
| But the web page itself: the PageDown key doesn't work for
| scrolling, though the arrow keys do.
| afpx wrote:
| There's certainly a market for AI generated art. But, of all of
| the AI art that I've looked at, it all lacked "soul". It feels
| like writing I've read that was generated by GPT-3 - it has a
| very pleasant way of saying a lot of nothing.
| marban wrote:
| "Art is what you can get away with" -- A.W.
| woldenron wrote:
| It's not AI.
| mdp2021 wrote:
| It is called in this specific sense of the term 'intelligent'
| the entity which writes the implementation of a function from
| some input to some intended output; the engineer which creates
| a writer of functions from some input to some intended output
| is said to have created an "intelligence".
|
| If somebody wears a thicker coat during a "cold war", the
| problem is not considered terminological.
| spencerflem wrote:
| It's crazy how far & fast AI art has come.
|
| I still love the deep dream style tho :) Feels the most like the
| AI is coming up with it's own art by itself for other AIs which I
| find just the right amount of unsettling
|
| Can't wait to try out the colab links later today! Thanks so much
| for the great article :)
| 6gvONxR4sf7o wrote:
| It's cool to see the impact colab has had here too. It seems like
| a huge enabler in the art community of people who would otherwise
| have tons of overhead to play around (getting and setting up the
| machine and libraries). It's awesome that google just gives away
| this scarce resource (gpu cycles) for free.
| vullaprovarasw2 wrote:
| nix23 wrote:
| I really don't think it's art, cloud's in the sky are more
| "creative"
| krapp wrote:
| It looks like art. It acts like art. It stimulates the senses
| and evokes emotion like art.
|
| Whatever "creative" means, either the AI has it, or it isn't
| really relevant.
| [deleted]
| mdp2021 wrote:
| You missed the important point: an artistic object is a
| concretion of a structure of meanings. It takes a proper
| intelligence to build that - you need conceptual depth,
| reflection etc.: you have by definition wait for a GAN.
|
| To elicit emotions (per se not quite a demanding endeavor) is
| not sufficient to be qualified as "art".
| nix23 wrote:
| That is exceptionally well articulated, fully on your side.
| marcodiego wrote:
| AI is doing fine art now. Wait until it learns to write good
| programs and we're doomed.
| mdp2021 wrote:
| > _AI is doing fine art now_
|
| (Not really. "Illustration", "graphics", somehow, yes; "fine",
| maybe; "art", no1.)
|
| > _Wait until it learns to write good programs_
|
| ...and we will be empowered of a power almost unimaginable.
|
| --
|
| 1Well, I just had to be more explicit for a post nearby, so
| I'll copy that: <<[...] an artistic object is a concretion of a
| structure of meanings. It takes a proper intelligence to build
| that - you need conceptual depth, reflection etc.: you have by
| definition wait for a GAN>>
| moultano wrote:
| You all might enjoy some of the things I've made with it.
|
| Tour of the Sacred Library -- A short story illustrated with
| VQGAN+CLIP https://moultano.wordpress.com/2021/07/20/tour-of-the-
| sacred...
|
| Doorways -- A series of images exploring "semantic symmetry"
| using CLIP's embeddings to do visual analogy completion.
| https://moultano.wordpress.com/2021/08/23/doorways/
|
| Depth of Field -- Exploring the scale of the Hubble Ultra Deep
| Field image using CLIP guided diffusion to create visual
| analogies. https://moultano.wordpress.com/2022/03/24/depth-of-
| field/
| enriquto wrote:
| Why don't you share the exact code for these experiments so
| that anybody can reproduce them? (and tweak them!)
| corysama wrote:
| Pretty sure Moultano's Tour was made with a hosted version of
| the original VQGAN+CLIP method https://colab.research.google.
| com/drive/15UwYDsnNeldJFHJ9Ndg... Though that method and
| implementation is quite old.
|
| If you want an up-to-date list of open implementations, it's
| here https://pharmapsychotic.com/tools.html Whatever is the
| newest Disco Diffusion has been the best around for the past
| few iterations.
| moultano wrote:
| For the first and third, I can't, it isn't my code.
|
| For the second, I have to get approval from my employer to
| release it, but I stalled out half way through the paperwork
| and haven't had the energy to keep pushing it forward.
| krapp wrote:
| Twitter users should consider following
| https://twitter.com/rpgmakerai and https://twitter.com/ai_curio
| for examples of AI art in their feeds
| scottmf wrote:
| I have access to midjourney and have posted some creations
|
| https://twitter.com/scottinallcaps
|
| e.g.,
| https://twitter.com/scottinallcaps/status/151597724462738227...
| yboris wrote:
| I'm not creating it, but I can't stop retweeting all the cool
| stuff I find: https://twitter.com/whyboris
| chrisa wrote:
| I'll add another - https://twitter.com/PasanenJenni does some
| fantastic work by combining AI generation with more traditional
| digital art; great stuff.
| jxmorris12 wrote:
| I have some links in the post! Here are some more good
| accounts: https://twitter.com/advadnoun
| https://twitter.com/RiversHaveWings
| https://twitter.com/danielrussruss
| forsythe_ wrote:
| A couple years ago I decided to fork StyleGAN, optimistic to kick
| the tires and just see if it would run on my desktop. I got bored
| after an hour or two and scrapped the setup, having felt it was
| too complex for someone with a casual interest.
|
| Fast-forward to finding the link to NightCafe a half hour ago,
| where I just had to type a ridiculous phrase for it to spit out
| something that attempted to match my description after just a few
| minutes:
| https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/sPsmFbpijhePoRDwqF...
|
| Still, I don't see using this for anything more than gags with
| friends right now. But it's a solid leap forward.
| seanwilson wrote:
| > ...the main development is the rise of *multimodal learning*.
|
| > Multimodal learning, in this case, is learning to match up text
| and images. Our new models are really good at learning to write
| captions for images, and (more importantly for artistic purposes)
| to generate images that correspond to a given caption.
|
| Can anyone explain this more? I think I recall Facebook was
| automatically generating captions for images automatically a good
| while ago, but this is something different?
| scottmf wrote:
| https://openai.com/blog/clip/
| spython wrote:
| I've recently had fun using VQGAN + CLIP, combined with slowly
| zooming in, for an art project on ecology:
| https://rybakov.com/project/metamorphosis/
| holoduke wrote:
| A year ago or so there was a video posted about an AI generated
| video. It was extremely scary. Almost like a emotionless
| psychopat with absolutely zero feelings towards humans. Anyone
| remembers where to find it?
| big_blind wrote:
| I've been playing around with the Dall-E 2 website all day. It's
| simply amazing: https://openai.com/dall-e-2/
| KaoruAoiShiho wrote:
| Who do I beg to get earlier access?
| julieturner99 wrote:
| The linked post suggests that AI art started in 2015 (what it
| labels as "early forms of AI art"). AI art goes back decades--it
| didn't start with Google. Perhaps the author might want to look a
| bit further back than seven years.
| gwern wrote:
| Why should he bother with such 'Schmidhubering'? Contemporary
| AI art owes little to before 2014.
| elevaet wrote:
| I wish there were analogous tools for sound design
| corysama wrote:
| AudioCLIP has not received as much attention
| https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.13043
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLQVh9ABDM
| JoeAltmaier wrote:
| The CLIP stuff has its downside. Much of what I see looks like a
| collage of real images. Not so much art as graphic design.
| supramouse wrote:
| searching the same phrases on google images returns more
| interesting "pre-generated" results
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