[HN Gopher] AppleCensorship
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       AppleCensorship
        
       Author : maxwell
       Score  : 107 points
       Date   : 2022-04-21 17:28 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (applecensorship.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (applecensorship.com)
        
       | TIPSIO wrote:
       | For the project/mission: No specific comment. Good luck with
       | whatever you are trying to do.
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       | For the site: I get the design choice to try and draw
       | inspiration/influence from apple.com but this instead comes
       | across as almost like a phishing site. I recommend finding a
       | healthier balance.
        
       | jeabays wrote:
        
       | bombcar wrote:
       | Apple is going to crawl up the apple of this website so fast.
        
       | cirrus3 wrote:
       | meh.. censorship detector is not what this actually does. Read
       | the https://applecensorship.com/methodology/
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       | "a web crawler that indexes all apps available in any of the
       | countries and regions which currently have an App Store, and
       | verifies availability of these apps on each of these App Stores."
       | 
       | "So if an app is unavailable in one or more app stores, does it
       | mean it has been censored by apple? No. Unfortunately, no
       | algorithm could ever detect censorship that easily, for the
       | simple reason that censorship is a human decision that is
       | invisible in the binary realm of the World Wide Web. What the ASM
       | does is detect if an app is available somewhere but unavailable
       | elsewhere."
        
         | bmarquez wrote:
         | From the website:
         | 
         | > Ultimately, only by contacting the developer, can one confirm
         | censorship.
         | 
         | Yeah I wish the website did this for every app listed, because
         | claiming censorship if a developer temporarily removes an app
         | in a region for language fixes or bugs makes it seem like a boy
         | who cried wolf situation. At its current form it's more of a
         | "is this app available in your region?" database.
        
           | lostlogin wrote:
           | Thanks.
           | 
           | The puzzle app deleted locally had me scratching me head.
        
         | epgui wrote:
         | This website is basically a persecution complex by design haha.
        
         | etchalon wrote:
         | "Here's a list of actions which might be nefarious! We don't
         | know, and we're not gonna find out, but we can imply they are!"
        
         | duskwuff wrote:
         | They're also treating any app that's removed from sale as
         | having been "censored" -- even though that includes apps which
         | were removed by their own developer. (For example, it ends up
         | including Facebook Lite, which Facebook discontinued in 2020.)
         | 
         | There's also a lot of apps listed under "Disappeared Apps"
         | which look like legitimate removals for content issues, like
         | scams or trademark infringement.
        
       | VoidWhisperer wrote:
       | Perhaps i'm missing something (is it supposed to be part of the
       | 'censorship'?) but the apple logo covers parts of the text at the
       | top on mobile
        
       | drcongo wrote:
       | What absolute horseshit.
        
       | jonathanberger wrote:
       | Why... why whoever made this page, would you choose to display a
       | feedback modal right as first time visitors view your page? If
       | collecting feedback is the most important thing you want someone
       | to do make it front and center page content. And if it's not,
       | then don't.
       | 
       | I was mildly curious about the site but upon seeing the modal it
       | was an immediate back button click for me.
        
         | clarge1120 wrote:
         | The reason to display a feedback modal is that the digital
         | marketing establishment says they work. They even acknowledge
         | that popups are annoying and can cost a few visitors.
        
           | darkteflon wrote:
           | I think even the most craven digital marketing executive
           | would agree that it might make sense to give people a chance
           | to see your content, before soliciting feedback... on your
           | content.
        
         | mig39 wrote:
         | Whenever I see one of those on a site, I actually to the survey
         | and fill it in with "it's annoying to be asked to do a survey
         | before I even get to view the content." And hope that gets
         | through to them.
        
           | RattlesnakeJake wrote:
           | LOL, that's great. I just did the same.
        
       | rayslemaias wrote:
        
       | memish wrote:
       | When I first saw this I thought it was from Apple and was
       | impressed by the transparency.
        
       | clarge1120 wrote:
       | I am saddened by the acceptance of corporate censorship in the
       | USA. The degree we are will to go to in order to score
       | politically is shortsighted.
       | 
       | I have my political views, and wish everyone agreed with them. I
       | even want my opponents to shut the hell up. But, I don't want
       | them silenced by govt or corporate powers. Let the argument
       | change my mind or theirs.
        
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