[HN Gopher] Acute hepatitis of unknown aetiology - UK
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Acute hepatitis of unknown aetiology - UK
Author : gmac
Score : 46 points
Date : 2022-04-15 19:46 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| IndySun wrote:
| https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hepatitis-increas...
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| The WHO link is a 404.
| guilhas wrote:
| Strangely all cases are very recent
| nikolay wrote:
| d--b wrote:
| It doesn't say if the children had been vaccinated. I dont know
| about the Uk, but here in France they didn't ask for children
| so young to be vaccinated.
| martinald wrote:
| From this Guardian article:
| https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/apr/15/who-
| monitors...
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| "Officials stressed there was "no link" between the cases and
| the Covid-19 vaccine, as none of the children affected by
| hepatitis had received a jab."
| jbjbjbjb wrote:
| Children under the age of 12 in the U.K. are only just being
| allowed to vaccinate and there is no big push to do it like
| there was for adults.
| cryptonector wrote:
| nikolay wrote:
| dimgl wrote:
| The children aren't vaccinated. It's why you're getting
| downvoted. It has nothing to do with vaccine skepticism. If
| they were all vaccinated, I too would wonder if the vaccine
| had something to do with it. Maybe you're just toxic.
| bhk wrote:
| He didn't say the children were vaccinated. He asked a
| question about a study. It would be reasonable and
| constructive to reply with one or both of the following:
|
| A: Vaccination doesn't appear to be an issue here:
| https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/apr/12/uk-
| health-ag...
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| B: You're probably thinking of this Irish study:
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8264276/
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| > Maybe you're just toxic.
|
| Now that was unwarranted.
| nikolay wrote:
| I don't mind or care about the downvotes; I don't think
| you got my point. Stop labeling people!
| kgwxd wrote:
| "Provocateur extraordinaire"
| nikolay wrote:
| What's wrong with that?
| tom_ wrote:
| Nothing. It is however usual for provocateurs expect a
| reaction from their provocateering - because otherwise,
| what's the point? So it's not obvious why you're not
| leaning back in your comfy chair with a nice glass of
| whiskey and a cigar, smiling to yourself at the downvotes
| and the shadow ban. Another job well done!
| Herodotus38 wrote:
| In the linked report the initial 10 cases in Scotland and all
| were in the 11 month to 5 year old. In the Uk you have to be 5
| to get a covid vaccine.
| ashildr wrote:
| Well, PIMS / MIS-C at least sometimes seems to affect the liver:
|
| ,,Acute hepatitis is a prominent presentation of the multisystem
| inflammatory syndrome in children: a single-center report"
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7655704/
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| Maybe having COVID19 is not a good idea in general, even for
| children.
| TacticalCoder wrote:
| > Maybe having COVID19 is not a good idea in general, even for
| children.
|
| Isn't the estimate now that 60% of the EU population had
| Covid-19 at least once? The WHO estimate in january was that by
| march at least 50% of the EU would have had _Omicron_ only.
| Then you add all the other variants on top of that.
|
| I mean: short of locking yourself up forever, you don't really
| get to decide if you get Covid or not so I don't understand
| your comment.
| guilhas wrote:
| No disease is a good idea. It is not like people choose to have
| them
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| And these cases are very recent, 2022. So based on previous
| data COVID has not been very dangerous to children
|
| Edit: wrongly thought the original article mentioned underlying
| health conditions
| paulmd wrote:
| I have repeatedly seen HNers argue that COVID is harmless to
| children (no qualifiers), and that the cure is worse than the
| disease.
|
| Besides, arguing that COVID is harmless _as long as you 're
| not one of the people it harms_ is just morally and
| intellectually bankrupt. Yes, clever tautology, but there are
| real-world consequences for real people here.
| ashildr wrote:
| So you are saying that children with underlying health
| conditions are at a higher risk for MIS-C and / or this
| hepatitis than the rest?
| somewhereoutth wrote:
| It seems that the level of sickness in society is going to
| increase due to widespread Covid infection. The question is - by
| how much? There likely will be more evidence of the ongoing
| impact on public health. Hopefully it won't be too high a health
| burden, or we may have to re-evaluate our response.
| throttledagain2 wrote:
| guilhas wrote:
| Interesting, all very recent cases
| sudden_dystopia wrote:
| Why is it seemingly localized to the UK though? If it's covid
| related, I guess it could be like one specific strain causing it
| or something. But it seems more likely to me that it ends up
| being some sort of contaminated product. I got some tainted
| supplements on Amazon and they messed my liver levels up for a
| few months. Luckily I caught it early enough.
| thomond wrote:
| It isn't localized to UK, cases have been reported in Ireland
| and Spain as well.
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