[HN Gopher] The History of Franz and Lisp
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       The History of Franz and Lisp
        
       Author : lisper
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2022-04-15 19:16 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | usr1106 wrote:
       | I used Franz Lisp on our student VAX 11/750 at university, maybe
       | in 1985. I have no idea what kind of license the university had
       | and how much they had paid for it. That wasn't a question you
       | would ask yourself those days, all computers were worth millions.
       | 
       | Around those days the university also bought a Symbolics. But its
       | capacity was well below the VAX so students didn't get to use it
       | without working on any very specific project in just that Lisp
       | group.
        
         | rjsw wrote:
         | Original Franz Lisp was open source, your university could just
         | download it from UCB.
         | 
         | I ported it to the Atari ST around that time.
        
         | housel wrote:
         | At that point it was probably the free Franz Lisp that was
         | included in BSD Unix 4.2 or 4.3, which had an interpreter and
         | compiler (with basically MACLISP semantics so it could run
         | Macsyma) on VAX and mc68k platforms. As an undergraduate in
         | 1986 I ported it to the CCI Tahoe, which was a VAX clone with a
         | slightly simplified instruction set (and the main platform on
         | which the BSD 4.3Tahoe release was developed).
        
       | mark_l_watson wrote:
       | That was a fun read. Franz is a good company. My consulting
       | customer a while back also hired them for a while - really smart
       | people. Jans Aasman, mentioned in the interview, gave me funding
       | to write a book that was partially on AllegroGraph (that book,
       | very indirectly, led to my being invited to work on a knowledge
       | graph project at Google).
       | 
       | For those interested, I recommend downloading the free version of
       | AllegroGraph as a docker image, and the free version of their
       | Common Lisp IDE. Their latest IDE is web based, with a background
       | Lisp app. Neat idea.
        
       | agumonkey wrote:
       | Didn't know about SDC/III Lisp 2
       | 
       | - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISP_2
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       | - http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/lisp2_fami...
        
         | pmcjones wrote:
         | I think Fenaughty must have been involved with a much later
         | project: the LISP 2 project at SDC (with III) started in 1963.
        
       | pxeger1 wrote:
       | Not to be confused with Franz Liszt
        
         | cschmid wrote:
         | Sounds the same if you have a lisp.
        
         | divbzero wrote:
         | That's how I read it too. According to the founder of Franz
         | Inc. in OP, the language was "so named to induce feelings of
         | false familiarity stemming from a wide awareness of composer
         | Franz Liszt".
        
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