[HN Gopher] How to draw sub cutaways in MS Paint (2015)
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How to draw sub cutaways in MS Paint (2015)
Author : mNovak
Score : 85 points
Date : 2022-04-15 18:23 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.hisutton.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.hisutton.com)
| kukx wrote:
| Paint me surprised. I would never guess that it was made in the
| old ms paint. It does not seem like an adequate tool for the job.
| Still the effect is great, so maybe I am missing something.
| marcodiego wrote:
| Yes, you're missing the fact that he shades using GIMP.
| GrumpyNl wrote:
| Thats impressive, but why paint?
| dgritsko wrote:
| > Apparently I am crazy to draw with these outdated tools but I
| like the hand-drawn look and feel.
|
| I've never heard of this person or seen their illustrations,
| but after reading the article and viewing the finished artwork
| it's hard to argue with - clearly, he enjoys the process and
| has no desire to change it, and the end result looks great.
| warmwaffles wrote:
| Occasionally I stumble on this guy's site and end up going
| down rabbit holes on ships and submarines. Very fun amount of
| information.
| janci wrote:
| I guess for pixel-precise drawing without antialiasing and for
| simple selection tool without layers and "proper" transparency.
| mamcx wrote:
| Irony:
|
| "People on HN complain about using of Paint, a terrible software
| for the Job"
|
| What that people use?
|
| - Vim - Emacs - C - Pico - Shell (and here stuff like grep...) -
| ... (fill here your grudges, I not judge you)
|
| "And people wonder: Imagine if that guy use something, like, you
| know... modern AND good?"
| mcdonje wrote:
| The mspaint parts with shapes could be done in inkscape (which is
| a fantastic and underrated program), then still transfer to gimp.
| larschdk wrote:
| Ah Inkscape, also a pain to use because of the complete lack of
| hardware acceleration. I get 2 fps dragging simple shapes on
| decent hardware. I had better performance in Corel Draw on
| Windows 3.1.
| Flollop wrote:
| archive:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20220121153647/http://www.hisutt...
| tyingq wrote:
| I'm impressed these are done with MS Paint. I'm somewhat curious
| why he either never found, or doesn't like, paint.net. For me,
| it's a nice middle ground between something like MS Paint and
| expensive paid tools, and has a ton of both built-in features and
| plugins that would make his work easier.
| Vladimof wrote:
| A lot of people do crazy stuff with Paint... just imagine what
| they could do with good software
| Etheryte wrote:
| While this is an easy idea to agree with, I don't think it
| holds up to scrutiny. Michelangelo made David with what are
| surely basic tools when compared to modern machining
| apparatuses. Yet he still created something for the ages. While
| advanced tools can definitely cut down the amount of time you
| spend on something, they don't necessarily make the outcome any
| better. A master can create a masterpiece even with just a
| chisel (or Paint).
| Vladimof wrote:
| They probably could do a more beautiful art faster if they
| knew how to use modern tools. But I get your point.
|
| It's a bit like debating whether an axe is better then a
| chainsaw... I used both and I can tell you that an axe
| requires a lot more efforts....
| xypage wrote:
| I don't think that's a good comparison. Paint is to Photoshop
| as a crayola 64 pack of crayons is to a paint brush and
| palette. Yeah Michelangelo did crazy stuff with old tools but
| he'd still use the same thing today, he'd just be able to
| speed up the first part where he's just clearing away
| material by using a jackhammer or something but he'd still
| use a chisel at the end. He wouldn't have been able to do the
| roof of the Sistine Chapel with crayons, though.
| egypturnash wrote:
| Art has been my job since about 2020.
|
| My experience is that, while I can certainly do lovely work
| with _any_ way of making a mark and enough time, shitty tools
| will take a _lot_ of time to get decent work, decent tools
| will take a sensible amount of time relative to how much
| people are willing to pay me, and power tools - once you 've
| learnt how to use them properly - will let me work a _lot_
| faster for the same quality of work.
|
| Pushing single pixels in Paint is like writing assembly
| language for artists, except we don't even get the benefit of
| all that time spent coming back as blazingly fast execution.
| We just had to spend a lot more time than other tools could
| have let us take.
| marcodiego wrote:
| I'm saddened by the fact he uses paint and GIMP. Like GIMP alone
| is not usable enough to replace paint. Of course, different tools
| and different purposes, but certainly a warning about GIMP's
| usability for simple cases.
| dvh wrote:
| Gimp can't even draw circle.
| drno123 wrote:
| Paint Shop Pro 4 was MS Paint enhanced. Not different (like
| GIMP or Photoshop), but same workflow only better.
| cpach wrote:
| My favourite application for simple graphics editing is
| Acorn. I feel like it's the spiritual successor to PSP.
| It's really really nice.
|
| https://flyingmeat.com/acorn/
|
| (PSP itself is still around, but it has turned to sh*t
| unfortunately.)
| rzzzt wrote:
| Use the ellipse selection tool while holding down Shift (uses
| fixed 1:1 aspect ratio) to select a circle, then fill or
| stroke selection via the Edit menu.
| autoexec wrote:
| Thank you for this. It's been years since I've used GIMP,
| and don't think I've ever used it to make a circle, but my
| brain simply wouldn't accept that it was actually
| impossible. If not for your comment that would have bugged
| me until I reinstalled it and proved to myself that it can
| be done.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Holding down shift to constrain an object scaling has
| been the defacto standard since before the dawn of man
| (or something like that). However, Adobe has seen fit to
| make a change in _some_ of its applications so that using
| the modifier key releases the constraint making it the
| opposite of everything else. My brain still gets
| confused.
| caslon wrote:
| That isn't true. Here's a video showing how simple it is:
|
| https://streamable.com/yapgz
| joemi wrote:
| I'm pretty sure they could do what they did in Paint in GIMP,
| more or less.
| matsemann wrote:
| > _Note that I do not use black, but a wide range of near-blacks.
| MS Paint 's fill tool only fills the exact same color so using a
| range of near-same colors allows you to use the fill function to
| erase errors without impacting other parts of the drawing._
|
| Wow, what a workaround for not having layers!
|
| At junior high, this guy sitting close to me would spend all
| lessons where a computer was available to draw Scania trucks in
| paint. Somewhat similar in style to this random one I found by a
| search now, but sometimes even at an angle with perspective
| https://www.flickr.com/photos/145204045@N05/31629814288
| tomcam wrote:
| Astounding. How... how could anyone have the patience?
| Arrath wrote:
| Sometimes I ask myself the same thing, then think back to
| elaborate creations I've made in Minecraft. Or elaborately
| staged bodies and dropped guns in Hitman 2, just to satisfy a
| head cannon of how a shootout occurred.
| kingcharles wrote:
| Once you get really good at something and know how to use it
| really well, it can be hard to change. I look at this and think
| how much easier it would be for him in Illustrator. But then I
| remember how hard it would be for him to learn Illustrator from
| scratch, and all the infuriating things that can catch you out,
| where he'll be spending 2 hours Googling just to find out how to
| change the color of a line or something simple like that.
|
| There are lots of things I do that others would consider dumb. I
| code my own versions of so many tools and projects that already
| exist, just because I like to do it. Any sane programmer would
| look at my work and roll their eyes.
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| intrepidhero wrote:
| That is extraordinary work. Beautiful illustrations.
|
| I recently started experimenting with a similar technique in
| inkscape. It seems like a much better tool than paint+gimp for
| drawing, layering, and shading polygons. That said, the tool is
| only an enabler for actual artistic skill, the ability to
| translate an image from your head to a medium. To me that's the
| hard part.
| legalcorrection wrote:
| I was expecting sandwich drawings. Still interesting!
| dpedu wrote:
| I was expecting subway tunnels!
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