[HN Gopher] EpubPress, turn web content into ebooks
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       EpubPress, turn web content into ebooks
        
       Author : Dangeranger
       Score  : 105 points
       Date   : 2022-04-15 14:26 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | arikrak wrote:
       | I sometimes like to read on paper so I've used this to collect
       | articles into an epub and then I can convert it to a PDF for
       | printing. However it would be nice to find a faster solution for
       | collecting articles and removing unnecessary pictures.
        
         | vorpalhex wrote:
         | This is probably a good scripting task, suitable for either a
         | beginner or to outsource to a freelancer. Ideally just activate
         | a browser extension and have it go through the conversion steps
         | and pop open the print dialog.
        
       | assbuttbuttass wrote:
       | Cool I've used Calibre in the past to convert a webpage to epub
       | but the quality is always poor. I'll need to give this a try.
        
       | Ancient wrote:
       | Thanks for releasing this cool tool.
       | 
       | Some feedback: The plugin (via Chrome v100) could not render this
       | HN post, thus the epub download was not useful.
       | 
       | Screenshot feedback: https://i.imgur.com/q1T0Hd0.png
        
         | mdaniel wrote:
         | Err, did you also email support@epub.press as they requested? I
         | know "support via HN" is a thing, but ...
        
       | KaoruAoiShiho wrote:
       | Would really love to get this working on my site:
       | https://fiction.live
       | 
       | A lot of my users have been requesting this.
        
       | Tijdreiziger wrote:
       | Somewhat related: Push to Kindle
       | https://www.fivefilters.org/push-to-kindle/
        
         | davidandgoliath wrote:
         | https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle
        
       | blondin wrote:
       | this looks useful! will definitely give it a try.
       | 
       | for those who made that decision recently, what ebook reader did
       | you get? i am quite torn between: kindle, i-pad, and e-ink
       | devices (remarkable 2, boox note air 2, kobo elipsa, quaderno.)
       | 
       | i heard e-inks are good on your eyes, which is always good.
       | kindles would not support uploading your own PDFs or taking notes
       | on them. the quaderno looks fantastic but quite big (i like a
       | book-sized device). the remarkable 2 wants you to subscribe to
       | services...
       | 
       | so, have you got one of these recently? which one?
        
         | JasonFruit wrote:
         | I have the Boox Note Air 2, and it's great. Only complaint:
         | time from picking it up to reading is too long, because it has
         | to boot up and doesn't remember which book you were reading,
         | though it does remember your place. Other than that, I enjoy
         | everything about it. The display is beautiful and the software
         | has been stable for me, despite what I've read in reviews.
        
           | goosedragons wrote:
           | That's easily fixed. In the power settings just change Power-
           | off timeout to a day or never then it will just sleep and you
           | can easily be back at whatever you're doing. I haven't had a
           | huge power drain while sleeping so I'm not sure why they're
           | so aggressive about turning it off by default.
        
             | JasonFruit wrote:
             | I just assumed that they set it to such a short timeout by
             | default for a reason, so I never tried it. Huh.
        
         | kodt wrote:
         | You can put your own PDFs on Kindles using Calibre.
        
         | bytematic wrote:
         | I have a remarkable. Know that the device is designed almost
         | exclusively for writing. It is extremely bare bones when it
         | comes to reading. PDF's an eBooks with code can become a
         | formatting nightmare and it lacks many of the tools that most
         | e-readers come with. It is however, fantastic for writing, and
         | decent at reading if you hack in some custom apps like
         | koreader. You have to remove DRM from amazon epubs though,
         | which I haven't yet done. and can't comment on.
        
         | phil294 wrote:
         | I bought a Pocketbook 301 from 2007 for 13EUR recently, as it
         | is one of the few ebooks without internet connection. It has
         | buttons, an SD card slot, it reads all common formats (FB2
         | works best), and it has an audio jack plug. You can use it for
         | reading, and that's it. Probably the best product I ever
         | bought.
         | 
         | No note taking obviously.
        
         | raadore wrote:
         | Kindle Paperwhite continues to serve me well for ten years of
         | daily reading. I upload pdfs, various doc formats and all my
         | ebooks to it all the time by simply emailing the file to
         | Amazon's whisper service which you get automatically with the
         | kindle purchase.
         | 
         | No, it is not a note-taking device although short notes for
         | highlighted text may be done. It is a reading device. And I
         | highly recommend it.
        
         | dgarrett wrote:
         | If you're the kind of person who likes the ability to tweak
         | your environment and get things set up just right for you, I'd
         | recommend getting a Kobo and putting KOReader[1] on it. It has
         | the classic OSS problem of bad defaults, but it's very flexible
         | and can be a uniquely nice experience once you get it
         | configured in a way you like. It's mostly written in Lua and
         | has responsive maintainers, so if you're a developer you can
         | extend it even further.
         | 
         | It has great PDF support, including good reflow and note taking
         | support (highlights and text notes). And export support to
         | text/json/html/Readwise.io for those notes.
         | 
         | It also has the best UI I've seen to visualize the structure of
         | a book you're reading.[2]
         | 
         | The biggest downside is that you have to do more file
         | management of your ebooks, since it isn't hooked into a nice
         | cloud like Kindle. I use Calibre for this, and set up an OPDS
         | server for some basic cloud downloading.
         | 
         | [1] https://koreader.rocks/
         | 
         | [2] Book Map and Page Browser:
         | https://github.com/koreader/koreader/releases/tag/v2022.01
        
           | goosedragons wrote:
           | You can also put KOReader on Android devices (or jail broken
           | Kindles). Personally I'm not a fan though. It like every
           | other open ePub reader I've tried also has limited to no
           | support for ePub 3, so no vertical writing, no right to left
           | page turns in manga, etc. I'd rather use Kobo's renderer than
           | KOReader, better UI and better rendering IMO.
        
             | mdaniel wrote:
             | > It like every other open ePub reader I've tried also has
             | limited to no support for ePub 3
             | 
             | Is there an open issue for that feature gap in KOReader?
             | I'm always curious whether it's just "we haven't gotten
             | there yet" versus "we don't want to do that"
        
               | goosedragons wrote:
               | Yeah there is for vertical writing
               | (https://github.com/koreader/koreader/issues/4353) at
               | least. It seems like it's a limitation of their engines
               | so I don't blame them.
        
         | goosedragons wrote:
         | I have a couple Boox devices right now and have had Kobo and
         | Kindle devices in the past as well as iPads but I kinda feel
         | those go in their own category.
         | 
         | The Boox devices are fast, easily the fastest eInk devices I've
         | used and are extremely flexible thanks to the fact that they
         | just run Android. You do have to fiddle a bit with the app
         | optimization settings because apps aren't typically designed
         | with eInk in mind so you need to filter out animations and set
         | refresh modes. But it is super nice to just have whatever
         | available. The Kindle app, Libby, Google Play books,
         | Pressreader, etc. The built in software is very good for PDFs
         | especially in comparison to the junk Amazon and Kobo put on
         | theirs. It's OKAY for ePubs/AZW3 but it has some rough edges
         | and bugs but you can just use another 3rd party app so it's not
         | a huge deal. Note taking software works well IMO too.
         | 
         | Kobo still has a better built in ePub reader in terms of
         | rendering but devices are slower and it's more annoying to get
         | books on and off. As for Kindle there's very little reason to
         | buy one unless you're certain you're going to play in their
         | store and are happy with their limited font and formatting
         | options. Send to Kindle is probably the best feature but you
         | can only send ancient KF7 mobis or like txt files. You can put
         | PDFs on a Kindle but it's a horrid experience, Kobo is slightly
         | better especially on the new models.
         | 
         | I've heard Remarkable's suck at ePubs and it seems like it from
         | videos and I wouldn't use an iPad for reading books as it's
         | just too distracting IMO.
         | 
         | If you mainly want PDF support or want flexibility with regards
         | to what you can do and are okay with some rough edges get a
         | Boox, if you want good ePub support and it to "just work" get a
         | Kobo.
        
           | throwanem wrote:
           | I have a reMarkable, but can't recommend it for this or any
           | other use case. The hardware's great, and deserves better
           | than the software it has - which barely exists, and mostly
           | doesn't work well.
        
           | zwayhowder wrote:
           | I second all of this. I've had a B&N Nook, Kindles from basic
           | ones in 2010 through to the 2019 Oasis and for the last 18
           | months I've had a Boox Note 2. I have no regrets. My use
           | cases other than recreational reading for 30-60 minutes a day
           | is academic research and/or whitepaper reviewing.
           | 
           | I run the Kindle app on it, as well as an Adobe reader and
           | the main reader is great for anything without DRM. I use an
           | Android App (Autosync) to sync instead of the built in sync
           | client. My ebook folder in NextCloud is in sync on the Boox
           | and my laptop, both ways so annotated PDFs come straight back
           | to my PC.
           | 
           | I read a lot of PDFs of A4/Letter pages so the larger size
           | screen is a godsend. I can't imagine going back to a smaller
           | device now.
        
         | nestorD wrote:
         | I love the eink technology and have been happy with a reader
         | bought about ten years ago. However, nowadays, I find myself
         | mostly using the ReadEra app[0] on my phone (no affiliation).
         | 
         | It being an app on my phone means that I always have my book
         | with me and can read during any break time in the day. Plus, it
         | deals with pdfs very nicely which turns out to be surprisingly
         | useful when reading other things such as scientific papers and
         | technical books.
         | 
         | [0]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.readera
        
         | RheingoldRiver wrote:
         | I have a Kindle Oasis. I _mostly_ like it. The yellow light
         | feature that they added is amazing, and I like the page turn
         | buttons.
         | 
         | My biggest complaints are: (1) the battery life is terrible,
         | compared to my previous Kindle - recently I've been reading a
         | _lot_ but I have to charge it every couple days rather than
         | like once a week, and it 's absolutely mandatory to keep it in
         | airplane mode. (2) the metal casing is an extremely
         | questionable product design choice, it gets VERY cold in the
         | winter, though I suppose if I bought a case to go with it this
         | would be less of a problem (I don't want a case, the point is
         | to have a lightweight device). Would much prefer a plastic
         | chassis. (3) This one is a bit more esoteric, but: while you
         | can switch the buttons between page forward & back, you cannot
         | map them BOTH to forward, so if you like to frequently
         | reposition how you hold the device, too bad, it's very
         | inconvenient to remap the buttons as you move your hands.
         | (Since you rarely press page back, I'd rather use the touch
         | screen as designed for page back, and have both buttons be page
         | forward.)
        
           | goosedragons wrote:
           | I feel like you might like the Kobo Libra 2. Bigger battery,
           | similar size and shape with same screen resolution and size,
           | still has yellow light, plastic case, there's a patch to make
           | both buttons go forward. Weighs 30 grams more though.
        
         | criddell wrote:
         | Get a Kindle or Kobo _and_ a 13" iPad or Quaderno. The Kindle
         | or Kobo is ideal for reading books and the 13" tablet is what
         | you want for PDFs. The Remarkable and other 10" devices are
         | nice but it's too small for PDFs. If they made a 13"
         | Remarkable, I would probably recommend that.
        
         | mackrevinack wrote:
         | im using a boox nova 3 at the moment. i mainly went with this
         | device because it uses android as the OS which makes it easy to
         | install syncthing and sync my books folder to it. i can add or
         | remove books / long form articles to the syncthing folder on my
         | phone or laptop and everything is synced across later on
        
         | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
         | There's really not a one-size-fits-all solution for everyone.
         | The options you listed seem to be larger devices with pen
         | support, so is that what you're in the market for? I ask
         | because the best pure ebook reader device is not necessarily
         | the best device for PDF reading/annotation. Bigger screens are
         | better for those--you really need at least a 10-inch screen if
         | you want to comfortably read or edit PDFs. As close to a
         | standard 8.5x11" piece of paper as you can get, ideally,
         | because the majority of PDFs that you would be annotating will
         | likely be physical paper scans.
         | 
         | But if all you're reading are ebooks in formats that support
         | text reflow (EPUB,MOBI,etc.), you can get away with the normal
         | 6" readers, with the advantage that they're smaller and more
         | portable, and cause less fatigue to hold in your hands for
         | extended periods.
         | 
         | Of the smaller e-readers, I personally favor the Kobo. The
         | Clara HD had slightly better specs than the equivalent Kindle
         | Paperwhite when it came out, in addition to better supporting
         | the things I care about (like STANDARD ebook formats, Pocket
         | integration, and Overdrive integration). So that was the right
         | decision for me. But for my family, I've just recommended they
         | get the Kindle Paperwhite, because most of them don't care
         | about trying to pull their books out of the Amazon ecosystem.
        
         | acabal wrote:
         | Kobo has the best eink renderer and has the best support for
         | modern standards. iBooks is the best renderer on tablet/iOS.
         | Kindle is an ereader made by people who hate books.
        
       | trebor wrote:
       | I have needed this for years! Thank you for this site/tool!
        
       | cleverkayaking wrote:
       | I have used a similar tool before: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-
       | US/firefox/addon/saveasebook/
        
       | bayouborne wrote:
       | I've used the dotEPUB extension for Chrome now for several years
       | and its generally excellent. Can be config'ed to save to epub or
       | mobi.
        
       | rg111 wrote:
       | Looks really cool and fits my use-case. Will definitely install
       | and try it.
        
       | blondin wrote:
       | OMG, i am so disappointed!
       | 
       | apologies for the double comment. the other one is still useful
       | to me. but this plugin fails miserably with the javascript's
       | "please accept these cookies" prompts.
       | 
       | try it on this link i had on my unread bookmarks:
       | https://web.dev/streams
        
         | longnguyen wrote:
         | Shameless plug: I'm building something similar and looks like
         | it's working correctly. Can you give it a try, link below:
         | 
         | https://ktool.io/read-on-kindle?url=https://web.dev/streams/
        
         | sundarurfriend wrote:
         | I haven't installed the extension yet, but perhaps you could
         | try https://remove-js.com/https://web.dev/streams/ instead? I'd
         | guess that that would work, but I'd be curious to know.
        
       | maoserr wrote:
       | I wrote something similar: https://github.com/maoserr/epublifier
       | 
       | It's more geared towards longer web novels with 50+ chapters
       | (I've used it on novels with 500 chapters before). Instead of
       | opening each page as a tab, it fetches chapters from a Table of
       | Contents page.
       | 
       | It was written for jnovel/cnovel/knovel site, but it can handle
       | any generic page that has a list of links.
        
         | gfaster wrote:
         | I also wrote an alternative solution (not a public repo), but I
         | found that relying on site maps and other link lists generally
         | gave unsatisfactory results. Instead, my solution navigated as
         | a user and actually used next chapter links. While that slowed
         | it down (+ 10 seconds between requests to be polite), it could
         | handle very large books, with the largest I used being 700+
         | chapters at the time (5000 pages).
        
         | TakerofVita wrote:
         | I've written similar scripts to do this, but lncrawl replaced
         | most of them https://github.com/dipu-bd/lightnovel-crawler/
        
       | criddell wrote:
       | If you are looking for a good site to test it on, try
       | https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_toc.html
        
       | leke wrote:
       | Definitely some good use cases for this.
        
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