[HN Gopher] Frontier - An advance market commitment to accelerat...
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       Frontier - An advance market commitment to accelerate carbon
       removal
        
       Author : john_cogs
       Score  : 78 points
       Date   : 2022-04-12 12:42 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (frontierclimate.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (frontierclimate.com)
        
       | john_cogs wrote:
       | In looking at the Founder Advisory board, I was surprised that
       | all of these companies have dedicated roles/teams focused on
       | climate/sustainability.
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       | Very cool to see and hopefully a sign there will be more
       | leadership on climate coming from the business community.
        
       | joshdance wrote:
       | Frontier is promising to buy $925M of permanent carbon removal
       | between 2022 and 2030.
       | 
       | They have criteria such as Permanence, Cost, Verifiability etc.
       | 
       | Seems like a great program and we need many more like it.
        
       | sauwan wrote:
       | Is there something like this that individuals can contribute to?
       | I'd love a subscription I could pay into monthly that could be
       | used for something like this. Short term, put it in inflation
       | protected securities. Long term, buy me carbon removal once
       | certain criteria are met.
        
         | vincvinc wrote:
         | http://wren.co (YC S19) is a literal monthly subscription to
         | offset your carbon footprint.
        
         | kneath wrote:
         | No need for fancy financial products. You can literally buy
         | carbon removal today.
         | 
         | https://charmindustrial.com/ https://climeworks.com/
        
         | mvkel wrote:
         | Arcadia, perhaps?
        
           | sauwan wrote:
           | They look like an interesting company, but I don't see any
           | kind of offering like this.
        
           | thinkcontext wrote:
           | I would avoid Arcadia's wind offering. They lost their
           | certification a few years back, probably because they were
           | buying worthless Texas RECs which cost less than $1. Last I
           | looked they were still sourcing from Texas. They do have
           | community solar options in some markets which appear to be
           | what they say they are.
           | 
           | Many people aren't aware of it but a large part of the US
           | population has the option to choose an alternative
           | electricity supplier, including those that offer varying
           | percentages of renewables. Usually it costs more but at times
           | I've gotten lower rates. There are unscrupulous companies out
           | there that will try to lock you into a bad contract so read
           | any fine print closely. For options by state and zip code see
           | 
           | https://www.electricchoice.com/
        
       | mvkel wrote:
       | This is a really cool idea and much more beneficial than simply
       | buying carbon offsets and calling it a day.
       | 
       | $925M sounds like not a lot, though. It's a start.
        
       | aoeusnth1 wrote:
       | This is really great. Hopefully industrial commitments to net
       | zero carbon can create a market for removal without government
       | assistance, which seems less likely in our current political
       | quagmire.
        
       | benrmatthews wrote:
       | Does this perpetuate the idea that companies can pollute now and
       | simply "buy" their way out? Isn't this especially true if a lot
       | of carbon removal technologies are unproven, or proven at a
       | minuscule scale of what is needed?
       | 
       | I'm all for initiatives addressing the climate crisis at this
       | size and scale, but not if this follows a similar path to the
       | carbon credits and carbon offsetting markets we have now.
       | 
       | See this FT article for example: "Carbon offset transactions
       | surge despite environmental concerns"
       | https://www.ft.com/content/5ca87325-0baf-47fb-85e0-b1e4746f4...
        
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