[HN Gopher] Plex launches feature to discover content across str...
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Plex launches feature to discover content across streaming services
Author : shifty1
Score : 24 points
Date : 2022-04-05 14:13 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| xsmasher wrote:
| I use JustWatch for this. Justwatch shows the new / popular /
| interesting content across streaming services, with a
| comprehensive search and wishlisting.
|
| I wish Plex would just help me do what I need it to do - watch
| and download my ripped movies. Maybe help me fix the metadata. I
| don't want to subscribe to podcasts, watch web shows, or watch
| B-movies with commercials.
| pathartl wrote:
| I get that most people use streaming services these days, but I
| don't think I've used one in over a year and rely solely on local
| media. I understand _why_ Plex adds these features, but I'd much
| rather see them put time into the core product.
|
| I don't need their movies and TV catalog forced upon me. I have
| no interest in Tidal integration or searching streaming services.
|
| Once Jellyfin gets intro skipping I think I'll be switching.
| mcronce wrote:
| > Once Jellyfin gets intro skipping I think I'll be switching.
|
| I like that feature a lot, but the big one I'm waiting for is
| Quick Connect on the Roku app so I don't need to choose between
| highly secure passwords and the ability to get logged into a
| device in a reasonable timeframe
|
| Also keeping an eye on Dim. It's nice to see new projects
| popping up in this space.
| kop316 wrote:
| > I'd much rather see them put time into the core product.
|
| ....what's wrong with the core product? I've used it since at
| least 2013, and the core product has been flawless.
| pathartl wrote:
| Just some features I'd love to have:
|
| - LDAP integration
|
| - SSO
|
| - Customizable icons per library
|
| - Remote agent transcoding (i.e. install an agent on multiple
| machines on the network, give them the direct play stream to
| transcode instead of relying on the server to do it.)
|
| - Dolby Vision support (current state of things is terrible)
|
| - Apps for Android and iOS don't work well with large
| libraries
|
| - No DVD/Blu-ray support. Not expecting full menus, but even
| a best guess at finding the main title would be sufficient.
|
| - Automatic collection creation by path
| watermelon0 wrote:
| One major issue for me is that you cannot have movies and TV
| shows in the same folder on hard drive, you need to split
| them to separate folders, if you want correct metadata
| discovery.
|
| I use one folder for everything with Infuse (iOS/macOS/tvOS
| only), and it works great, so it doesn't seem to be an
| unsolvable feature.
| joshstrange wrote:
| I'm with you on this, what features is Plex missing that
| other services have? Intro skipping was the big one that
| comes to mind and Plex was a bit behind the competition (if
| streaming services can be called that) but they also had to
| do it from a "zero knowledge" position (using ML to guess
| where the intro was, which was genius IMHO) verses being able
| to just hardcoded it per-episode.
| joshstrange wrote:
| It's unfortunate that each streaming silo will probably never
| allow their content to be streamed to a client like Plex. Amazon
| Channels seems to have not had a great run from what I've heard
| (IIRC some services left after initially being part of it) so I
| have little hope of Plex being able to swing something similar.
| Apple TV (The app, not the device or the service, terrible
| naming) is just a launch board to kick you into other apps which
| is slightly better than having to navigate multiple apps but only
| slightly. I understand it's because the streaming services want
| to "own" the experience (and all that data you generate while
| moving around and using the app) but I hate it.
|
| Personally I watch all of my content through Plex because I
| refuse to switch between multiple streaming services. I'll gladly
| pay (and I do) for access to the platforms but I still only watch
| through Plex because I prefer having 1 UI/UX to deal with. I
| never have to ask "How do I get the subtitle selector up?", "Does
| left/right skip forward 10/15/30/60sec or does it start RR/FF?",
| "Where does this streaming provider let you configure X?", and
| the list goes on.
|
| Spotify effectively killed piracy for the vast majority of my
| social circle but TV/Movie piracy is still the best viewing
| experience by a long shot especially with *arr-type apps to
| automate it all for you.
|
| Money isn't the issue, experience is. It's just like years ago
| (or it's probably just as bad now but I haven't had to deal with
| it) when it was better to pirate a movie than get it via
| Redbox/Blockbuster because you weren't forced to watch ads/FBI
| warnings/etc.
| watermelon0 wrote:
| > "How do I get the subtitle selector up?", "Does left/right
| skip forward 10/15/30/60sec or does it start RR/FF?"
|
| Streaming apps (with some exceptions) on Apple TV (the device)
| actually use the same video player, so this is the same
| everywhere. Even navigation throughout the library is quite
| standardized.
|
| Exceptions here are Youtube app, which has a custom video
| player implementation, and it's just terrible to use, and
| Netflix app, which has terrible custom navigation.
| thedanbob wrote:
| If I want a movie, I'll generally wait for it to go on sale on
| iTunes, buy it there, and then strip the DRM so I can put it in
| Plex. That worked for everything except Dune; Apple improved
| their DRM for recent movies and nothing I've found can remove
| it. So, I pirated it. And I plan to do the same in the future
| (buy then pirate).
|
| I'm happy to spend money, but no one is selling what I want:
| DRM-free digital movies/TV shows. We got there with music but
| now that streaming has taken over I doubt we'll ever get there
| with video.
| joshstrange wrote:
| 100% this. I pay for all the streaming services and I would
| happily pay for shows/movies on a per-title basis but getting
| a DRM free version (or sometimes even a high quality version,
| some stuff doesn't get released on Blu-ray) is like pulling
| teeth. I've said more times than I can count "I'd pay 200+/mo
| for a fully legal version of Plex" (in this case referencing
| a platform that had all my shows, one UI/UX, ability to watch
| offline/cache locally, etc), it just doesn't exist.
| powerslacker wrote:
| I don't know about $200/month but I am 100% on board with
| paying for DRM free entertainment.
| tambeb wrote:
| Bought this little guy[1] back in 2015 to get around DRM and
| rip, with the exact same philosophy as you. I'm happy to buy,
| but if I buy it I'm gonna own it forever, regardless of
| account changes or ["AI" based auto-]shutdowns.
|
| [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0089DSLMY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B
| 3R9...
| rektide wrote:
| It's crazy how cable was getting regulated: we realized how
| shitty lock in was, there were upcoming OCUR standards to allow
| freedom of device accessibility, dvrs & media pc's wanted a
| Carterphone like.in & the FCC was in agreement, pushing for
| compatibility & consumer rights.
|
| Then streaming came along, reinvented expectations. And has
| seemingly no market regulation at all, absolutely no one
| looking out for consumers or thinking of what fair competition
| might entail.
| Mountain_Skies wrote:
| Which will probably work fine until there is consolidation,
| which ironically is what many people are asking for even
| though it's unlikely to lead to the results they desire.
| panick21_ wrote:
| My one wish for Plex is that I could remove all these features
| that Plex is putting on my server.
|
| I tried some of the other Media Servers but they tend to be even
| worse.
| f0e4c2f7 wrote:
| I've been happy with Jellyfin. It's entirely open source.
| Mountain_Skies wrote:
| Same here. What I want from Plex is simple. What Plex wants
| from me is complex. I get that part of their funding comes from
| commissions on things they get you to consume from their
| partners but I'd much rather pay for a "no extra crap" license,
| which unfortunately is not what the one thing they do sell, the
| Plex Pass, does.
| happymellon wrote:
| So did we finally get Boxee back?
|
| That was far and away the best platform back and we had it 11-12
| years ago.
| post_break wrote:
| Wow that brings back memories. What was that other one? Started
| with a J I think.
| happymellon wrote:
| And Boxee had such a better UI than most of the current
| platforms.
|
| I would be happy if we managed to get it working with the
| current platforms as it would be preferable to Amazon video,
| or Fire TV, or even just having multiple apps. The way it
| mashed together TV shows from multiple providers so I could
| watch different episodes without switching sites was awesome.
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