[HN Gopher] NSA employee indicted for transmission and retention...
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NSA employee indicted for transmission and retention of defense
information
Author : DyslexicAtheist
Score : 49 points
Date : 2022-03-31 20:30 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.justice.gov)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.justice.gov)
| softwarebeware wrote:
| > Unkenholz allegedly retained the classified NDI within his
| personal email address.
|
| I love how whoever wrote this clearly does not understand
| technology, and thinks that somehow the _data_ was stored within
| the _address_.
| softwarebeware wrote:
| But besides that, can we just take a facepalm to recognize an
| NSA employee sending _and_ keeping classified data in a
| personal email server. Like, how did he not know he would get
| caught, right?
| astrea wrote:
| Seems to be a recurring issue
| mistrial9 wrote:
| isnt it obvious that the person believes that they ought to
| be able to trade that information? rational or irrational,
| this looks like a fight more than a theft
| softwarebeware wrote:
| Tell me more. I would think that everyone with a TOP
| SECRET/SCI clearance is really clear on what it entails. I
| can't see someone thinking they could copy it to personal
| email and send it to someone without a clearance.
| trasz wrote:
| Tbh I'd think there would be (technical) mechanisms in
| place to make this impossible.
| vkou wrote:
| It's a useful, if not technically precise, abstraction. Since
| it's part of an indictment, it is a magnet for pedantry.
|
| Just like how a long fall doesn't kill you, the sudden stop at
| the end does. It's a distinction without a difference.
| dboreham wrote:
| Lawyers drafting indictments directly related to a technical
| subject should have them proof read by someone with knowledge
| of that subject.
| vkou wrote:
| Which is excellent advice - and unless you're both a
| lawyer, and familiar with the conventions of this
| particular bit of law, you probably shouldn't make any
| assumptions about what should, and should not be written in
| this kind of indictment.
|
| _Because you don 't have knowledge of the subject._
|
| The subject at hand being the law.
| tomohawk wrote:
| ozten wrote:
| Do you have any links that document what she did that is worse
| than this NSA employee's behavior?
|
| My understanding is that she didn't use her personal email for
| classified information and continued to use a government
| provided system for that class of information.
| lsh123 wrote:
| I am the author of the flagged post with a link to Wikipedia
| article on the subject (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary
| _Clinton_email_controve...):
|
| "The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained
| information that was classified at the time it was sent.
| Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information
| classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret"
| information."
|
| EDIT: compare with:
|
| "If convicted, Unkenholz faces a maximum sentence of 10 years
| in federal prison for each of the 13 counts of willful
| transmission of NDI and for each of the 13 counts of willful
| retention of NDI."
| lern_too_spel wrote:
| The state.gov email server she was supposed to use instead
| is also intended for only nonclassified information. It is
| unlikely that any Secretary of State ever followed that
| rule exactly, and we know that multiple Secretaries of
| State have used non-government email servers for emails
| that should have been on government email servers (or not
| on any email server). https://www.newsweek.com/watchdog-
| report-says-mike-pompeo-re... and
| https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-
| defends-...
|
| The lapse was considered so minor that multiple
| investigations ruled that it didn't warrant charges.
| ozten wrote:
| Thank you!
| tomohawk wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controve.
| ..
|
| She used her personal email for official communication quite
| a bit. This is illegal from a public records point of view,
| as well as from a classification point of view.
|
| A review of emails found classified information there.
|
| She was required to take document management and classified
| information classes when she became Sec State.
| trelane wrote:
| I wish the government folks would actually follow the rules
| for once. R & D seem to both be terrible, and it only seems
| to matter when the other side does it.
|
| Frickin' US politics.
| paul7986 wrote:
| At that level they all get to skate ..right, left or upside
| down
| acheron wrote:
| DyslexicAtheist wrote:
| _> According to the 26-count indictment, on thirteen occasions
| between February 14, 2018 and June 1, 2020, Unkenholz, lawfully
| having possession of, access to, and control over NDI, which he
| had reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United
| States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully
| transmitted that information to another person who was not
| entitled to receive it. _
|
| Mark Robert Unkenholz has this patent claim for key escrow:
| "Device for and method of cryptography that allows third party
| access" https://patents.justia.com/patent/5631961
| [deleted]
| lsh123 wrote:
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