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2022 and Aldi: Medion presents notebook based on Raspberry Pi
Author : Tomte
Score : 52 points
Date : 2022-03-31 13:25 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| wgx wrote:
| Site is unresponsive, Archive: https://archive.ph/hlxMr
| emsixteen wrote:
| SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP on this site.
| trevvr wrote:
| There's no advantage to this over using a cheap ass 2nd hand
| laptop and a PI via USB though?! Other than cuteness of form
| factor maybe?!
| GloriousKoji wrote:
| I'm not one for elegance but I personally hate having things
| dangling off my laptop.
| mpol wrote:
| Not everyone wants to buy secondhand. I know people who have
| been bitten before and only buy new now. I don't know how true
| their story is, but often something secondhand is not like new,
| and if you are picky, you might not like secondhand.
|
| Also, for a school situation, having everyone use the same
| laptop and software will make this more uniform and easier for
| the teacher.
| TekMol wrote:
| I wish there was a laptop like device that runs Linux well and
| lets you seperate the keyboard and the monitor.
|
| Every time I work with my laptop in a cafe, I would love to put
| the monitor a bit higher (on a stand or a book or something)
| while still be able to use my keyboard.
|
| It's a shame, that the Microsoft surface things do not let you
| use the keyboard while it is disconnected.
| frafra wrote:
| It would be nice indeed. Novena had that:
| https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena
| smorrebrod wrote:
| Maybe the Pine Tab? Although it runs Linux well but not fast.
| TekMol wrote:
| It looks like that is a tablet? The problem with tablets is
| that they have glossy screens. Not well suited for work under
| suboptimal lightning conditions like cafes.
|
| Also its only 10". I would like 13".
| jandrese wrote:
| So a tablet with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Of course this
| runs into the problem that most tablets ship with horrible
| phone type OSes that make it hard to be productive.
| skrebbel wrote:
| There are third party Surface keyboards / "type covers" which
| are similarly detachable but run over bluetooth (because the
| Surface connector is proprietary I suppose). I have no clue
| about the quality but if you want it to work detached, you
| surely have some options.
| andrewaylett wrote:
| I _really_ want a device with the same form-factor as an iPad
| Pro with a Magic Keyboard but running Linux. Or even running
| MacOS rather than iPadOS. The cantilever design raises the
| screen up so much more nicely than a notebook form-factor.
| rowanG077 wrote:
| Honestly this is my dream as well. The iPad Pro has a
| gorgeous 120Hz Display, the most powerful ultra mobile CPU
| and is incredibly light. I have hidden hopes that Asahi Linux
| will offer a path if a new exploit is discovered.
| Kon-Peki wrote:
| The cantilever design is indeed an elegant solution, though
| it can make it a little more difficult to hit the top row of
| keys.
|
| I was thinking that this laptop is kind of like a Pi 400 +
| battery + screen. If we look at is this way, then what the OP
| wanted is kind of already available - you can buy portable
| computer monitors.
|
| Interestingly, the Pi 400 + screen is kind of a "smart"
| keyboard combined with a "dumb" monitor, while the iPad Pro +
| Magic Keyboard is a kind of "dumb" keyboard combined with a
| "smart" monitor. It seems like both approaches have
| advantages and disadvantages.
| Jiejeing wrote:
| Why is there a big list of notebooks with a huge amazon logo for
| several pages of scroll before the actual article?
| dspillett wrote:
| Perhaps it should be some sort of carrousel, but some script
| has not loaded correctly or not dealt with bad/missing data
| cleanly, so failed before it was supposed to do some DOM/CSS
| rearrangements. If you watch network activity, a couple of the
| many requests fail, and in the console output there is a script
| error.
| Goz3rr wrote:
| The page seems to be a direct copy of a German article[1],
| possibly machine translated. The original German article has
| a single paragraph with the laptops which seems to have been
| butchered when it was copied.
|
| [1]: https://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-Tests-PC-
| Hardware-Ras...
| 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
| Not in the browser I am using.
| [deleted]
| dTal wrote:
| > _adapted_ Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4
|
| > _permanently_ installed in the notebook housing
|
| Total dealbreaker. So I have to replace the whole thing when I
| fry a GPIO port? Why even make this if you're not going for the
| modular approach? _This is why the compute module was invented!_
| pipeline_peak wrote:
| It's definitely bizarre, I read downward thinking "Okay a
| company putting RPi's into laptop cases to cut design costs
| while cashing into the Chromebook demographic, smart". Then
| with the announcement of an exposed GPIO port I realized it's
| hobbyist friendly.
|
| I think it's ultimately a confusing blend of the two because
| the company couldn't make a solid choice. I'd love to say the
| permanent installation was cheaper because they avoided extra
| costs of swappable parts, backup pieces and support, but of
| course at the price of shrinking their consumer base.
| dTal wrote:
| If it's just meant to be a cheap chromebook-y thing, that's
| defensible I guess. But it's outright irresponsible to
| position it as a hacking/learning laptop for kids and expose
| delicate GPIO ports which they _will_ fry, and not have them
| be replaceable. It 's an e-waste generator, and parents who
| get one of these for its stated purpose likely don't realize
| the serious risk of losing their investment.
|
| And no mention of storage. If the poor student does manage to
| fry it completely, do they lose all their work?
| oynqr wrote:
| It's a concept. Plus, the original German article didn't
| even get some of the basics right: "The processor is an ARM
| Cortex-A72"
| jandrese wrote:
| Maybe you supply your own uSD card for storage?
|
| At least this can't be any worse than the old Pitop with
| its shitty keyboard, cheap construction, terrible trackpad,
| nearly useless battery management, tiny battery, low rez
| screen, and unforgivably high price.
| awiesenhofer wrote:
| This looks great, I hope it becomes an actual product. I can
| think of quite a few friends and family members who cloud use
| this as their main computer. Also like that they make the GPIOs
| accessible.
| pachico wrote:
| Back in probably 2001 I bought a Medion notebook. It has really
| surprising specs for its price and, surprise surprise, it had
| full Linux support (this was more than 20 years ago!).
|
| It as probably one of the top 5 acquisitions of my life.
| pjerem wrote:
| Same, except for the graphical chipset (from SIS, iirc) for
| which no drivers existed for 3D acceleration. But the chipset
| was shitty anyway, so it was not a real issue.
|
| It was a huge blue and grey plastic brick. Pretty heavy. Not
| really ugly but not designed to be pretty.
| maratc wrote:
| While I can see the utility of a $35 computer and even a $70
| computer-in-a-keyboard-box, this leaves me a bit baffled. A Pi is
| bought for tinkering. A notebook is meant to be your "main"
| computer.
|
| Reminds me of the netbook phenomenon -- very cheap notebooks but
| ultimately too weak for anything.
| mhitza wrote:
| On the fashion wheel, we've circled back to thin clients. At
| least that's the trend I notice.[0]
|
| And I'm not against it. A cheap, small, arm laptop that can
| last multiple hours of use and all the work is done on remote
| beefy hardware.
|
| [0] See JetBrains Fleet/Gateway, talks by Netflix at
| strangeloop implementing this pattern for their video editors
| (I think), GitHub codespaces, etc.
| AviationAtom wrote:
| I use an old Chromebook, running Linux, in much this way. For
| it's compact form factor, and the small amount I acquired it
| for originally, it's been a great value.
| Stampo00 wrote:
| I used my Pi 400 as my daily driver for about 6 months. I loved
| it... until they released the new version of Raspberry Pi OS
| that has some issues for me.
|
| And now that the COVID restrictions have lifted for the most
| part, I wish I could bring it with me to work from coffee
| shops.
| jandrese wrote:
| The 4th generation Pis are plenty capable. Biggest problem I
| have is the wireless drivers seem to have suffered from
| serious regressions over the past couple of years across all
| models of Pi.
|
| It used to be I could install hostapd and have a perfectly
| stable and capable (if somewhat short range) access point.
| Then something happened to the driver and now the APs tend to
| crash and lock up the wireless regularly.
| barbazoo wrote:
| > A Pi is bought for tinkering
|
| Not always. Many of use it to run actual workflows too. It
| actually makes for a decent home server.
| AviationAtom wrote:
| The engineers at my old company utilized many of them to runs
| tests against hardware. Hobbyists don't realize that they can
| indeed have business uses.
| maratc wrote:
| My point is, a home server is not a main computer. I have
| several Pi's but never used one as my main computer.
| weberer wrote:
| I've never used a laptop as my main computer. That doesn't
| mean other people can't do it.
| mpol wrote:
| I still have the dream that I can use a Pi as my main
| desktop and main laptop. I still need more CPU/GPU power
| and more connections, so the dream is not here yet. It will
| come some day. My main desktop now is an AMD A8 from 2015,
| which suits me just fine. My laptop has a Celeron from
| 2015, which is too weak for me. I would desire to have
| something like that AMD A8, but smaller, cheaper and lower
| power consumption. It will get there.
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