[HN Gopher] Show HN: Nat.app, personal CRM that knows who you're...
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       Show HN: Nat.app, personal CRM that knows who you're losing touch
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       Hi HN! founder of nat.app here.  I've seen so many people building
       personal CRMs over the past years. Somehow, they all seemed to fail
       and die a year or two in.  The main reason for this in my opinion
       is that the personal CRM business is a bad business. People _sort
       of_ want this and will tweet about in from time to time, but only
       very few people are willing to pay and put in the effort (aka.
       reaching back out to people), to make it work.  Those very few
       people are our market and because it's a small market, there is no
       way to sustain such a business unless you're bootstrapped and
       working on this part time (which we are).  Our approach is very
       specific: We focus on Google users (which is why there is only a
       Google login) who communicate mainly through email and put every
       IRL meeting in their calendar.  For those people, we are able to
       capture 80% of their social interactions with Google's APIs. Which
       means that our _if-else rules_ are accurately able to identify
       contacts our customers are losing touch with.  nat.app then acts as
       a safety net and displays those contacts to our customers.  This
       product really has been a labor of love over the past 3 years and
       I'm very happy to be sharing it with you today.
        
       Author : nathanganser
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-03-28 22:35 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mlejva wrote:
       | This looks interesting. Can you tell me more why should I believe
       | you to give you access to my inbox?
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | we wrote some more as to how we handle data here
         | (https://nat.app/privacy) but in the end, you'll obviously have
         | to trust us.
         | 
         | I guess it depends on your needs & use cases. If you feel like
         | you're losing touch with people that matter, you might want to
         | give it a try :)
        
       | mnurbekova wrote:
       | Oh wow, that sounds pretty useful. Is that to follow-up with
       | people?
        
         | throwra620 wrote:
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | Basically. Our algorithm check who you're losing touch with
         | based on your email, calendar, ... data and resurfaces those
         | people for you.
        
       | itake wrote:
       | > Personal CRM for relationship building
       | 
       | > Stay in touch with the customers that matter to your business
       | 
       | Is this for personal or business?
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | For those where the two collide. Otherwise there usually is not
         | enough motivation to pay for a personal CRM :)
        
           | itake wrote:
           | Dex is doing ok.
           | 
           | I'm just confused who the customer is. Would I be paying for
           | this out of my paycheck so I would do my job better? Or would
           | my employer buy this for me to use?
        
         | kstrauser wrote:
         | For $12/mo, it's far into business use for me. I can't see ever
         | paying $144/yr to remember to text my mom.
         | 
         | For business, that might be reasonable. For personal use, no
         | way.
        
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       | mrtksn wrote:
       | Ha, I was thinking about something like that since my exposure to
       | a traditional CRM. Good luck.
       | 
       | However this looks like personal business relationship CRM,
       | right?
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | The line between business and personal is very thin in my
         | opionion. We aim to be somewhere in the middle.
        
       | gavin_gee wrote:
       | I may have missed it, but this needs to be more than email. for
       | many personal connections I need text, whatsapp, signal
       | integration etc. and now you are in the world of accessing
       | encrypted data. but without all the messaging protocols, the data
       | is misleading.
       | 
       | I dont manage my network through email.
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | That's totally fine, you're simply not in our market :)
         | 
         | Many people do though, that's why we exist :)
        
       | egeozcan wrote:
       | For a "more personal" CRM, I'd suggest Monica:
       | https://www.monicahq.com/
       | 
       | Discussion from 5 years ago:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14497295
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       | Discussion from a year ago:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25270001
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       | It's open-source and easy to self-host.
        
         | nathanganser wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing!
        
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