[HN Gopher] Ask HN: What do you do when your offer letter got ri...
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       Ask HN: What do you do when your offer letter got rid of the bonus
       promised?
        
       Has this happened to anyone? I was too excited when reading the
       letter, it didn't occur to me that a unicorn-valued San Francisco
       startup would put the starting bonus in the offer deck they
       presented, but omit it from the offer letter. I didn't even notice
       until the bonus never came and I re-checked the actual letter.
        
       Author : compacct27
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2022-03-28 19:42 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
       | bpiche wrote:
       | How long have you been there?
        
         | compacct27 wrote:
         | ~2 months
        
           | bpiche wrote:
           | Don't know much else about your situation but I would ask who
           | that slide deck was intended for. It's possible that it was
           | only meant for sales/client facing people. In my experience
           | bonuses tend to be a lot more common on that side of the
           | house. If not, you could always walk and just leave it off
           | your resume, but it's obviously a hard decision
        
             | magneticnorth wrote:
             | Sign on bonuses are very common in software engineering and
             | other hard-to-hire roles in tech right now.
        
       | keikobadthebad wrote:
       | You can complain, but it sounds like you already agreed to
       | whatever you agreed to.
        
         | compacct27 wrote:
         | Yeah, the legal-side of things is, you know, not on my side.
        
           | bpiche wrote:
           | At least it's an option. Not at my current org! Been there
           | for two years.
        
           | HWR_14 wrote:
           | I mean, you can always decide to leave. So, you cannot force
           | them to leave give you the bonus, but you could insist on it
           | or quit. I wouldn't go 0-quitting, but you have options.
        
             | HNHatesUsers wrote:
        
           | alex504 wrote:
           | It seems like if they intended to offer the bonus to you that
           | this is a mistake, or a company that you don't want to work
           | for, so it should be pretty easy to ask them about it and see
           | what happens. Any sane company wouldn't intentionally lie
           | about this.
        
       | jjgreen wrote:
       | Don't assume malice (possibly an oversight), ask nicely, then if
       | they are trying to screw you, move on.
        
         | compacct27 wrote:
         | It does seems like an oversight. I'm hopeful it'll turn out
         | fine, but I'm also pretty angry about it
        
           | bsder wrote:
           | You can't always control your feelings, but you can control
           | your actions.
           | 
           | Let yourself settle down, and then ask politely. If it's an
           | oversight, they'll work to correct it. Nobody with brain
           | cells wants to piss off someone they just hired in this
           | market.
           | 
           | If they don't work to correct it, well, then that's also
           | information. Go back to job searching.
        
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       | DIVx0 wrote:
       | This has happened to me, it was omitted due to a miscommunication
       | between HR and recruiter.
       | 
       | I just had to mention it and it was fixed right away. Always read
       | everything before signing!
        
       | batmaniam wrote:
       | You already signed the letter, so technically the company doesn't
       | have to pay you your verbal bonus. Definitely ask about it to HR
       | because you don't lose anything by doing so, but don't expect
       | them to correct the mistake. In their eyes, they just got an
       | engineer on the cheap, which benefits them immensely.
       | 
       | If they don't correct it, look at your compensation and decide if
       | it's still worth working there. If not, polish up that resume!
       | Remember, business is business. If you're not being paid fairly,
       | you have every right to leave for something better, and don't
       | feel bad about it.
        
         | SR2Z wrote:
         | > In their eyes, they just got an engineer on the cheap, which
         | benefits them immensely.
         | 
         | There's something to be said for the idea of "I want someone to
         | do an important job well, so I need to pay them enough."
         | 
         | You wouldn't expect an American senior software engineer to
         | make $30k a year, and Google or Meta or whoever the fuck
         | wouldn't even _consider_ hiring something for a role that
         | important for that little.
         | 
         | Getting engineers for _slightly_ cheaper is great! Getting
         | engineers for actually cheap is dangerous.
        
       | sloaken wrote:
       | You should have a discussion with boss or HR. Also talk with
       | others to see their experience.
       | 
       | I have worked at one company that gave annual bonuses, depending
       | on company performance.
       | 
       | Your bonus might be automatic after X months, because they do not
       | want you to take a bonus and bounce immediately. It may be a
       | company annual event. Need to discuss this with people.
       | 
       | Place I work now had a very strict rule of, if it is not in the
       | offer letter, you will not get it. Are you willing to leave over
       | it? Because if they did this to you, how much can you trust them?
       | 
       | I wish you the best. Was the bonus a key reason you took the job?
        
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