[HN Gopher] Johnny Cash Has Been Everywhere (Man) (2012)
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Johnny Cash Has Been Everywhere (Man) (2012)
Author : 1970-01-01
Score : 99 points
Date : 2022-03-28 13:17 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Neat. This feels like something you might see on Newgrounds back
| in its heyday.
|
| From a technical standpoint, Macromedia Flash had serious issues,
| but when it comes to democratizing the ability to create
| animations, there really is nothing like it today, and part of me
| feels like we are worse off without it.
| trentearl wrote:
| I assumed Salvador was the Brazilian city not the country of El
| Salvador.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| El Salvador is the definitive article, though. Hard to argue
| with that.
| ethbr0 wrote:
| Apparently he had never been to MontanaWyomingAlabamaNewJerseyCon
| necticutRhodeIslandVermontNewHampshire... man.
| dmckeon wrote:
| Loved the use of these lyrics in the opening scenes of the remake
| of "Flight of the Phoenix" (the 2004 version with Dennis Quaid,
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377062/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ql... )
| bitxbitxbitcoin wrote:
| The assumption being that he sang the cities he visited in
| chronological order.
|
| I am inclined to believe it because really if you are passing
| through Winnemucca, chances are you are going to Reno.
| MaxBarraclough wrote:
| Surprisingly, a search for _I 've Been Everywhere travelling
| salesman problem_ turns up no relevant results.
| dawsmik wrote:
| He forgot to put a mark on Catalina.
| magneticnorth wrote:
| The cities in green in the lyrics get marks, the ones in white
| don't, and I'm not sure why.
|
| Initially I thought it was because it wasn't clear which city
| was meant, but several that were missed are fairly clear imo,
| like Cadillac, MI or Opa-Locka, FL. Plus they chose a
| springfield, despite that one having so many options.
| cjensen wrote:
| They put that one on Catalina Arizona. There's ambiguity, so
| the illustration has to pick one.
| racnid wrote:
| I noticed Opa-locka (Miami-Dade area) as well and a couple of
| others.
| waynecochran wrote:
| How did you know which Springfield he meant? There is one in
| Oregon, Illinois, and Missouri, and I assume there are a bunch
| more. I also assume that is why Homer Simpson works there ...
| i.e., it is a generic city.
| jer0me wrote:
| He obviously meant the one in the ZIP code 80085
| NobodyNada wrote:
| Wikipedia says there are 34 Springfields in the US:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_(toponym)
| kmstout wrote:
| After the Man in Black retired from being the Dread Pirate
| Roberts, he had time to visit them all.
| sebmellen wrote:
| Not bad, but the author missed Barranquilla... and pronounced it
| without the signature Colombian "kee-jah" for double Ls.
| progre wrote:
| Apparently, Mr Cash hates Montana
| Hamuko wrote:
| Apparently nothing worth seeing in South Dakota either.
| davidjhall wrote:
| Nor Connecticut
| binarynate wrote:
| Same with Indiana, but I think we can assume he drove
| through on his way from Chicago to Louisville
| vincent-manis wrote:
| And apparently BC and Alberta were vast wastelands to Mr
| Cash, though he did apparently get to eastern Canada.
| specproc wrote:
| Cute, but Tom Waits gets about considerably more.
|
| https://tomwaitsmap.com/
| Exmoor wrote:
| I love Johnny Cash, but it always annoys me when songs made
| famous by other performers and later covered by him become
| referred to as Johnny Cash songs. "I've Been Everywhere" is
| actually a very unique example of this since the original version
| is actually Australian[0] and was re-written with U.S. cities and
| became a hit for Canadian-born country singer Hank Snow [1].
|
| The other song that routinely gets attributed to Cash is "Long
| Black Veil" which was actually originally performed by Lefty
| Frizzell [2]. I would argue the Frizzell version is the superior
| version in every way. Lefty had an incredible career and is sadly
| not very well known these days.
|
| [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OZWi-mTkNU [1]
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jet7Ue743Do [2]
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50k18gL76AU
| supercanuck wrote:
| Funny, I always attributed Long Black Veil to Dave Matthews.
| Didn't realize it was a cover until now.
| swagasaurus-rex wrote:
| In Johnny Cash's defense, the song is a very standard 12 bar
| blues progression (I I IV I V), which Johnny and every other
| blues artist uses liberally.
|
| He's obviously ripped off every other aspect of the song
| (lyrics, rhythm, feel). Everything but the key change.
| cgriswald wrote:
| With apologies to @wizzwizz4 for calling him out:
|
| > > Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go // I owe my
| soul to the company store
|
| > -- Johnny Cash, Sixteen Tons
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30234908
| hirundo wrote:
| Horse and jockey. Geoff Mack wrote a beautiful horse and Johnny
| Cash rode it for all it was worth. It's annoying that Mack is
| ignored, not that Cash is lauded.
| slowhand09 wrote:
| From Nashville Songwriters Association-
|
| Songwriters are paid via 3 royalty streams:
|
| Mechanical Royalty - A songwriter receives a mechanical
| royalty from the sale of a song on an album or a legal
| digital download. This rate is set by a Copyright Royalty
| Board made up of 3 judges who meet every 5 years to set
| rates. The original mechanical royalty was established in
| 1909 and set at 2 cents. Today, the current rate is 9.1 cents
| (typically split with co-writers and publishers).
|
| Performance Royalty - A songwriter receives a performance
| royalty when their song is performed on terrestrial broadcast
| radio, in a live performance venue, or via online streaming
| services. In the United States, performance royalties are
| paid out through Performing Rights Organizations (ASCAP, BMI
| and SESAC) and are governed by consent decrees from WWII
| requiring the PROs to go to rate court to receive their rates
| from entities seeking to license the songs they represent.
|
| Synch Fees - A songwriter receives a synch fee when his/her
| song is licensed for use to synchronize with video (i.e.
| television, movie, YouTube video). This royalty is freely
| negotiated in the marketplace and is typically split 50% to
| the writers and 50% to the artist and record label.
| ethbr0 wrote:
| See also: How Haim Saban made his first fortune. By
| figuring out that the rate scheme made composing children's
| cartoon music incredibly lucrative
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Saban#Music_career
| slowhand09 wrote:
| Geoff Mack was probably well-paid for his work.. And from
| multiple artists performing and recording it, and many radio
| stations broadcasting it. Cash probably made more money for
| Mack than any other artist.
| SigmundA wrote:
| Then you get him covering "Hurt"[1] from NIN and Trent Reznor
| says "that song isn't mine anymore" [2].
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI [2]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurt_(Nine_Inch_Nails_song)
| Maxburn wrote:
| That was an amazing cover, I like both artists but Johnny
| Cash just blew that out of the park. Combined with his death
| just a few years later too, man.
|
| "Personal Jesus" by Depeche Mode was also a excellent
| example.
| brimble wrote:
| This happened to a lot of songs, including a bunch where the
| famous version is basically the only song anyone knows by the
| artist who popularized it (a "one hit wonder" but for a song
| that wasn't even an original). I may be way off, but it seems
| like this doesn't happen as much these days but did all the
| time in the 50s-70s. Not sure why that would be.
| goto11 wrote:
| Before Beatles, performer and songwriter was typically
| separate jobs. It was quite normal for a song to be recorded
| by multiple different artists and even to chart with multiple
| artists at the same time. The idea of a "cover version" did
| not really exist, since none of the versions were considered
| more original than the other. Famously, Elvis Presley never
| wrote a song himself. Beatles changed that, because they made
| it prestigious for performers to write their own material.
| mgkimsal wrote:
| I get what you mean but 'prestigious'... doesn't seem the
| best word. The idols they looked up to had all written a
| lot of their own stuff (Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly seem
| like the archetypes there). The Beatles sort of invented
| the 'self contained group' (singers, songwriters,
| performers all in one) and it seemed to become almost
| mandatory for groups after that to at least have a go at
| writing.
| slowhand09 wrote:
| I agree, but it happens all the time. What was famous in one
| generation or time may be unknown by another. Janis Joplin
| singing "Me and Bobby McGee" for example. Huge number of people
| thought it was her song. Kris Kristofferson wrote it and
| performed it. Several artists performed it, charting it even.
| Joplin made it a #1 hit, recording it right before she died.
| mauvehaus wrote:
| I also think Janis Joplin can rightly take credit for
| recording the definitive version of "To Love Somebody". I
| mean, the BeeGees version is good, but hers is otherworldly.
|
| Similarly, Jimi Hendrix can surely claim to have recorded the
| definitive version of "All Along the Watchtower".
|
| Actually, there's got to be a pretty long list of songs
| written and recorded by Dylan that somebody else recorded the
| definitive version of. PP&M covering "Blowing in the Wind"
| comes to mind.
| marlowe221 wrote:
| I would submit that Dave Matthews Band may have given Mr.
| Hendrix (hallowed be his name) some competition for All
| Along the Watchtower, but you make excellent points here!
| ctoth wrote:
| Mr Tambourine man is another great example.
| mauvehaus wrote:
| You probably don't have the 13th Floor Elevators version
| in mind, but that's my favorite! I'll concede that
| nobody's likely to call it definitive though.
| [deleted]
| quesera wrote:
| My favorite example of this is "China Girl" by David Bowie,
| written by Iggy Pop.
|
| Bowie and Iggy were friends, and for many years (maybe still
| to this day!), the songwriter's royalties for China Girl were
| Iggy's primary source of income. Which I think is great. Like
| a form of patronage. Bowie was a great guy.
|
| Though I prefer Iggy's version of the song.
|
| Siouxsie & the Banshees cover Iggy's "The Passenger", and Ms
| Sioux wins this time.
|
| Now if only Bowie had covered a Banshees song, the circle
| would be complete.
| zelon88 wrote:
| I posted about this yesterday! My reference was Hurt by NIN.
| zwieback wrote:
| Awesome, I was only familiar with the older Hank Snow version,
| prominently featured on my daughters' mix CDs when they were
| little.
|
| Learned today that the original version was Australian!
| acheron wrote:
| If Cash shot a man in Reno (Nevada) just to watch him die, how
| did he get sent to Folsom Prison, in the California state system?
| renewiltord wrote:
| The man was in Reno, but Cash himself was in a helicopter in
| California air space. This is covered in _Johnny Cash : The
| Prison Diaries_ by B. Yesmaster.[0]
|
| 0:
| https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=1441501240865944941...
| collegeburner wrote:
| Same way they overtook him down in Juarez, Mexico.
| mbg721 wrote:
| Extradition,
| thehappypm wrote:
| Also, a train from Folsom to San Antonio??
| ojbyrne wrote:
| Perhaps that was not the only man he shot.
| bombcar wrote:
| Reno touches the California border, so perhaps he was just over
| the line in Cold Springs or Verdi.
|
| Or maybe he shot into California.
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