[HN Gopher] A decent team could reverse engineer [Twitter] versi...
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A decent team could reverse engineer [Twitter] version 1 in a month
Author : aresant
Score : 8 points
Date : 2022-03-26 18:48 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (twitter.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (twitter.com)
| trasz wrote:
| Twitter's core functionality is trivial. What's not trivial is
| the business side.
| ohgodplsno wrote:
| PG with the useless takes again, and Elon complaining that you
| can't put out shit takes on Twitter. Yep, seems par for the
| course for these two.
| nurettin wrote:
| You can build something like Twitter in a month, but you cannot
| build the nightmare that is the Twitter API. You will be billed
| like the AWS, perhaps a bit richer. You will be suspended from
| regular use within limits, you will be given a very short backlog
| and Twitter will gatekeep any and all remotely useful
| information.
| draw_down wrote:
| aresant wrote:
| I initially thought this was PG larping the HN trolling position
| of "this tech could be easily replicated" (1) but reading the
| entire thread I'm not sure sure!
|
| (1) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| Trolling?? Also why do people keep ignoring the "For a linux
| user" part?
|
| But to the topic, why would it be non-serious? If you can't
| make a _basic_ clone of most websites in a month, you 're not a
| very good web dev team.
| cinntaile wrote:
| Making a basic clone is not what makes Twitter Twitter.
| saurik wrote:
| > Also why do people keep ignoring the "For a linux user"
| part?
|
| Because people like to feel superior and it is more fun for
| them to be trite while doing it; it is the same reason why
| people keep referencing the early reviews of the iPod,
| ignoring that that device _did_ suck and only became popular
| years later when they made both product improvements and
| introduced iTunes.
|
| > If you can't make a basic clone of most websites in a
| month, you're not a very good web dev team.
|
| Also: 100% this. People then like to whine about "but the
| scale is impossible to pull off" and frankly that isn't even
| true either (though to do it _cost effectively_ I agree would
| be difficult, but if you don 't know how to throw together
| something very similar to Twitter that could even handle
| billions of users with just a few engineers in a month _in
| 2022_ using all of the tooling we now have at our disposal
| then you are clearly an amateur)... the hard part isn 't
| building the tech now, it is bootstrapping an actual
| community, which maybe Elon could do? or maybe he couldn't.
| I'm pessimistic, but I also wouldn't be shocked if he pulled
| it off.
| agilob wrote:
| Elon complains on Twitter for not accepting freedom of speech? He
| fired an employee for posting a video on youtube
| https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-empl...
| metadat wrote:
| It's less about freedom of speech and more that the individual
| violated their NDA.
| bko wrote:
| Tesla is not a public forum. I don't know what you expect the
| response to be for an employee that violates terms of service
| of their employer and posts public criticism about the company
| and product. Whats the appropriate response? If you got a job
| at a bank and posted on social media about how the bank is
| evil, do you think you'd keep your job? Have some common sense.
|
| I think that's different than complaining about censorship
| (often at the behest of politicians) on ubiquitous public
| forums. And the rules are not clear and you may not even get an
| explanation. And all major platforms and even infrastructure
| providers like AWS more or less act in unison. I think it's a
| valid complaint.
| bko wrote:
| I think the problem with twitter clones is that they're free
| speech absolutist, which in principal is good, but it obviously
| attracts the worst and others get turned off. I checked out
| alternatives and regularly within the first page you can see
| truly cringy stuff (name your -ism). How about an alternative
| that just has a sensible policy about what can and can't be
| posted? Or a "bring your own filter" feature where you can pick
| your filter and discover algo, and people can create open-source
| or private versions you can pick from. Want the wild west?
| There's a filter for that. Want something like twitter but
| without inflammatory politics? How about twitter with slightly
| looser censorship? All could be crowdsourced filters
|
| But it has to be easy. No separate domains or configurations. One
| shared global state but you can swap out rules.
| conradludgate wrote:
| (in response to the original tweet) People are governed by social
| rules in the "Town Square". If you say something people don't
| like, you will face consequences (whether that be legal, social
| or physical).
|
| The same is always true on twitter. It's just that you can reach
| millions of people rather than hundreds. I don't know if our
| social or legal systems have caught up with this international
| instant explosion yet.
|
| Until that happens, I'm all for moderation (even if it can ban
| the wrong parties sometimes). I see it as an overall net
| positive.
| conradludgate wrote:
| People joke about 'safe spaces', but it's necessary. People
| live their lives online now. And we increasingly don't have
| control over what we see and read. The spaces absolutely need
| to be accommodating to the most people as a consequence of that
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