[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Do people at Google use Google things
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       Ask HN: Do people at Google use Google things
        
       I use a Google home almost exclusively to add things to my shopping
       list. It seemed Google was aware of this, as over the last few
       months they made little improvements, like images for the items and
       automatic sorting. Well today Google updated its list app, and
       removed almost all of its features, including the ability to even
       manually sort. Thanks Google.
        
       Author : l2silver
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2022-03-25 16:00 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
       | istillwritecode wrote:
       | Another xoogler here. iPhones are quite popular among Googlers,
       | but probably not out of proportion to their demographic.
       | Personally I stopped using almost every Google product after I
       | got to see what android collects. I won a Google home max in an
       | internal contest and immediately gave it away. I have an Alexa.
       | It's true that Google product decisions often have a vocal
       | opposition inside the company, but product managers are adept at
       | ignoring criticism.
        
         | l2silver wrote:
         | Well that's comforting
        
         | znpy wrote:
         | I must say, I appreciate the honesty.
        
           | Calvin02 wrote:
           | I'm curious.. did the fallacious argument play into your
           | understanding of "honesty" here?
           | 
           | OP: I don't use Google products because Google collects a lot
           | of data. Also OP: I use Amazon Echo instead.
           | 
           | Setting aside whether or not OP even works at Google, did you
           | ask yourself: what basis does OP have to suggest that Amazon
           | or Apple don't collect similar amounts of data?
           | 
           | Feel free to ignore me and not let confirmation bias get in
           | the way of your pitchfork!
        
         | samspenc wrote:
         | Doesn't Alexa collect the same amount of information as Google
         | Home or other "smart products"? I'm not pro-Google or Amazon
         | (quite the opposite actually), I just don't use any "smart"
         | products (expect for smartphones which I can't avoid) due to
         | the amount of tracking on all of them.
        
         | JSONderulo wrote:
         | You heard it right there folks. Another reason to de-google.
        
       | ppeetteerr wrote:
       | Heard that all Chrome designers use iPhones.
        
         | Graffur wrote:
         | What does a Chrome designer do?
         | 
         | iPhones and Android phones are pretty much equivalent now
         | anyway.
        
           | hammyhavoc wrote:
           | Designs Chrome.
           | 
           | I'll see myself out.
        
         | samspenc wrote:
         | Just a solitary data point here, but I notice almost all of the
         | designers I've worked with at any company or agency exclusively
         | use Apple products (iPhones and Macs)
        
       | Wonnk13 wrote:
       | Xoogler here: I'm sure if Memegen still exists, someone has made
       | a post about this. Not to be glib, but Googlers are people too
       | and share most of the frustrations about Google's product
       | strategies. I joined right before Inbox was being sunset and
       | there was a small, but very vocal contingent of folks who were
       | upset by that. I myself was a member of the so called Inbox
       | Resistance.
       | 
       | Maybe not a perfect metaphor, but I think of it as similar to how
       | constituents continue to reelect their specific congressperson,
       | but Congress as a whole has record low approval ratings. It's
       | always another PA that's ruining Google ;)
        
         | fooker wrote:
         | Does Memegen still exist though?
        
           | AuthConnectFail wrote:
           | Yes
        
       | ternus wrote:
       | Xoogler here. Yes.
       | 
       | Rule of thumb on Google things: if there is a bug/decision that
       | bothers you, there is a contingent within Google that is furious
       | about it.
        
         | lmohseni wrote:
         | You mean there's a contingent within Google that further
         | compromises their moral integrity.
         | 
         | Edit: downvotes won't help you sleep at night!
        
           | 100721 wrote:
           | It seems to be quite a leap from "furious with a product
           | change" to "compromising one's moral integrity".
           | 
           | I don't agree with every decision our PM's go with, but I
           | don't feel compromised either.
        
             | lmohseni wrote:
             | > I don't feel compromised.
             | 
             | I get it.
             | 
             | It's a long road from "dont be evil" to illegal wage
             | fixing, mass ad fraud, omnipresent dragnet surveillance,
             | and cooperation with totalitarian nation states; all of
             | those with compunctions are long gone, the rest are like
             | you.
        
               | renewiltord wrote:
               | I don't think you should listen to user lmohseni. He's
               | involved in funding state violence against individuals.
               | Considering this conflict of interest and the fact that
               | he hasn't published a disclaimer, you should be careful
               | listening to him.
        
         | gigel82 wrote:
         | And do their concerns get addressed somewhere up the chain? Do
         | they even have ways to express their concerns?
         | 
         | I've heard there's a similar contingent within Microsoft
         | complaining about all the ads and shady privacy stuff in
         | Windows and they're just left to fester in the echo-chamber of
         | internal Yammer.
        
         | collyw wrote:
         | For technical things I still find google better, mostly because
         | the manage to get the most recent relevant version of a
         | library, while DDG that was my default often returned out of
         | date versions.
         | 
         | For anything with a political slant, hell no.
        
         | eminence32 wrote:
         | How do xooglers pronounce "xoogle" ?
        
           | nr2x wrote:
           | "Zoo" "gull" "er"
        
       | ThePowerOfFuet wrote:
       | Anylist.
        
       | eimrine wrote:
       | Hi Googlers. I have heard that stories about ban for nothing and
       | support who doesn't even tell the reason of ban. I have tied too
       | much of my digital life in Gmail, may I use your contacts here if
       | banhammer hits me? I just reply to every message. Promise not to
       | do obviously bad things.
        
         | doublerabbit wrote:
         | When gmail was new and invites were all the fad. I nabbed
         | "wolfcub@gmail.com". It got banned and I have never found out
         | why, I was only 17.
         | 
         | Three years ago I got through to support and they never told me
         | other than "it was inclusive internal matter".
         | 
         | Ever since then I've never used gmail for any service.
        
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