[HN Gopher] Cloudflare's investigation of the January 2022 Okta ...
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       Cloudflare's investigation of the January 2022 Okta compromise
        
       Author : jgrahamc
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2022-03-22 16:59 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.cloudflare.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.cloudflare.com)
        
       | memish wrote:
       | Why outsource this to Okta in the first place? Cloudflare has the
       | expertise and resources to do it themselves. So why rely on a 3rd
       | party.
        
         | corobo wrote:
         | https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1506160414106611712
         | 
         | They didn't want to get into the market (until now?) by the
         | looks of things
        
           | SahAssar wrote:
           | Selling something publicly and using it internally are two
           | very different things. The parent is talking about using
           | something else internally, while the tweet is talking about
           | selling it publicly.
        
       | weekay wrote:
       | "We are also in contact with Okta with a number of requests for
       | additional logs and information. " - is it a common practice to
       | share the logs with customers ? Seems unusual .
        
         | jgrahamc wrote:
         | What we're asking for is logs corresponding to access to our
         | Okta account. Not asking for something that doesn't pertain to
         | us as a customer of Okta.
        
           | ktsayed wrote:
           | Matthew Prince has a lot of tweets today about how he might
           | have to begrudgingly enter the IAM space given how
           | disappointed he is, how serious are you guys about this?
        
             | jeffrallen wrote:
             | Cloudflare should do anything that they can do better than
             | the incumbents. Which at this point seems to be just about
             | everything they touch.
        
             | jgrahamc wrote:
             | What features would you like?
        
               | Melatonic wrote:
               | Better integration with other security products - Ping,
               | Okta, etc all have marketing that claims they integrate
               | with tons of different vendors but when you actually
               | attempt to implement it often times nobody really knows
               | how it works or if it works at all
        
               | [deleted]
        
               | tiffanyh wrote:
               | I'd love if Cloudflare became a IdP.
               | 
               | Just a thought, most people's corporate identity is
               | linked to their corporate email. Cloudflare does email
               | routing.
               | 
               | Would be interesting to extend your email routing service
               | to have Identity attached to it and Cloudflare is the
               | Identity Provider (IdP).
        
               | toomuchtodo wrote:
               | Cloudflare Identity. Auth0 or Okta offerings but built
               | and managed by Cloudflare.
               | 
               | I do not feel comfortable sending clients to Auth0 or
               | Okta, but I would be comfortable sending them to
               | Cloudflare for identity services, and an engineering
               | first org is better suited for providing this sort of
               | critical service.
        
               | billpg wrote:
               | Since you're (probably going to be) proxying my website
               | anyway, what if you intercepted /login and handled
               | registration, email address validation, login-with-X,
               | passwords, MFA, etc. Once you've authenticated that user,
               | pass on further HTTP requests to my server but with a
               | token indicating that the user is valid and some means
               | for looking up information on them.
               | 
               | I don't want to be storing user data on a machine I keep
               | in my lounge next to my TV if I don't have to.
        
               | SahAssar wrote:
               | Put your resources behind keycloak or ory or similar. If
               | there is demand provide a hosted version, but please
               | don't just reinvent the wheel without a reason.
        
       | ktsayed wrote:
       | The clarity and communication here have been top tier
        
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