[HN Gopher] Anonymous has hacked Russian CCTV and published the ...
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       Anonymous has hacked Russian CCTV and published the feeds online
        
       Author : simonswords82
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2022-03-17 18:35 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (behindenemylines.live)
 (TXT) w3m dump (behindenemylines.live)
        
       | badrabbit wrote:
       | Interesting techniques. If I were betting I would bet a good
       | amount the CIA has people working with Anonymous (clandestine of
       | course, not the NSA). Impact with plausible deniability.
        
         | kbelder wrote:
         | Sure, but if they're 'clandestinely working with anonymous'
         | then they just _are_ part of anonymous, as that 's the only
         | membership criteria.
        
         | usednet wrote:
         | The CIA has already arrested or scooped up pretty much every
         | valuable member within Anonymous, Lulzsec, Lizard Squad, etc.
         | What's left is script kiddies like this who pretend that
         | accessing unsecured CCTV is some major breach.
        
           | dragonwriter wrote:
           | > The CIA has already arrested
           | 
           | The CIA might kidnap people, but arrest is a more law-bound
           | process that they don't really engage in, except their in-
           | house police force that handles things like trespassing at
           | CIA HQ.
           | 
           | US federal national security related arrests are mostly FBI.
        
       | csmattryder wrote:
       | > Anonymous has hacked Russian CCTV
       | 
       | What's to bet that this is scraped from Shodan? Unprotected or
       | default credentialed IP cameras litter the site.
       | 
       | Probably not too much work to match the host IP to Russia with
       | geolocation.
        
       | 5ESS wrote:
       | I wonder if hacker news would allow this post if it was American
       | cameras being hacked?
        
         | oonerspism wrote:
         | FYI: peoples of many, many countries of North and South America
         | consider themselves to be "Americans", being from one of the
         | "Americas".
         | 
         | When referring to a particular country, for global clarity I
         | recommend using that actual country's proper name - e.g. "the
         | USA".
        
           | kaishiro wrote:
           | Is this actually true? I haven't traveled through South
           | America at all, so I'm genuinely curious. If I meet a
           | presumed Chilean and ask "Where are you from?", you're
           | suggesting they'll respond "I'm American."?
        
             | oonerspism wrote:
             | A related article.
             | 
             | https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/06/what-
             | do...
        
               | kaishiro wrote:
               | So, first off, I appreciate the link - it's a good
               | article. But it seems to suggest that there is no firm
               | right or wrong in it's usage, but rather the context of
               | the usage is what's important. Would you not agree that
               | the usage in this context makes it clear that 5ESS is
               | referring to "if it was [United Statesian's] cameras
               | being hacked"?
        
               | oonerspism wrote:
               | Context is subjective, precision is universal. I (perhaps
               | wrongly) don't think of HN as a USA-centric site based
               | upon USA-centric discussion, so my context expectations
               | are set accordingly. But obviously, others may think
               | differently.
        
         | forgotpwd16 wrote:
         | The world wide version has been posted few times in the past:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=insecam.org
        
           | 5ESS wrote:
           | Hosting this link probably makes HN liable to COPA lawsuit
           | being as though this site deliberately provides a category
           | for cameras of "schools" showing underage children without
           | consent.
           | 
           | This is wrong and needs to be taken down.
        
             | forgotpwd16 wrote:
             | >showing underage children without consent
             | 
             | But it doesn't right now. Maybe the people behind the site,
             | who already removed the houses link for example, will stop
             | stream when schools start. If they don't then maybe HN mods
             | will remove it.
        
               | 5ESS wrote:
               | The very fact that they even included a "Houses" and
               | "Schools" section in the first place shows that the site
               | operators have maligned ethics. School is obviously out
               | of session now at the time of this post but the site was
               | in fact exposing underage children earlier in the day.
        
         | duxup wrote:
         | Hacking of American companies and government gets covered a lot
         | on HN.
        
           | 5ESS wrote:
           | You mean stories about American government hacked that don't
           | link directly to the files.
           | 
           | Infact I remember last year when the XP Source leaked I was
           | the first to post it here and it was almost immediately taken
           | down. So actually, you're wrong. HN does take down hacked
           | data from American companies all the time and I know this
           | from first hand experience.
        
             | duxup wrote:
             | I don't know what story you're talking about but pretty
             | sure the 'leaked tank manuals' stories all linked to
             | stories with the files.
        
         | gruez wrote:
         | Probably? I remember seeing those sites that list open VNC
         | instances on hn, which is pretty similar.
        
         | spacemanmatt wrote:
         | Yeah, it would sure be weird if HN showed favoritism toward its
         | host country.
        
       | squarefoot wrote:
       | A real challenge would be to hack electronic billboards along the
       | streets in big Russian cities, adding images/videos from war and
       | Russian captions. I'm sure Anonymous already thought of that; if
       | it's doable they will find a way.
        
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