[HN Gopher] FreeBSD on the Vortex86DX CPU
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       FreeBSD on the Vortex86DX CPU
        
       Author : fcambus
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2022-03-15 09:28 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | Gys wrote:
       | > the EBOX 3300A-H, with a 1GHz CPU and 256MB of RAM
        
       | timw4mail wrote:
       | The Vortex86 series is the little-known x86 survivor...the only
       | real non-Intel or AMD x86 chip with roots back in the Socket 7
       | days.
       | 
       | Centaur, with their Winchip design, and Cyrix both got bought by
       | VIA. VIA did have a good run, but their custom CPU designs kind
       | of fizzled out before they re-sold Centaur to Intel.
       | 
       | As far as I am aware, Vortex86 CPUs are still in production,
       | unlike VIA's.
        
         | 0xcde4c3db wrote:
         | > As far as I am aware, Vortex86 CPUs are still in production,
         | unlike VIA's.
         | 
         | Did VIA CPUs actually stop production at some point? As far as
         | I know, they were restricted to shipping on a shrinking lineup
         | of VIA's own boards, and then licensed to Zhaoxin to support
         | requirements of certain organizations in China to deploy PCs
         | using domestic chips.
        
           | timw4mail wrote:
           | If there is ongoing production, the supply is miniscule. At
           | the very least, VIA no longer has a CPU design team.
           | 
           | Zhaoxin chips do have the "CentaurHauls" vendor string, but I
           | think they are different enough to not be "VIA" chips.
        
       | deadbeeves wrote:
       | I still don't get what people use these devices for.
        
         | bayindirh wrote:
         | They're small, unobtrusive, silent, low power, useful and fun.
         | 
         | I use a OrangePi Zero with 512MB of RAM [0] as a local DNS,
         | webserver, torrent client and download box. It provides
         | hostnames for devices at home, downloads my LibreOffice and
         | Linux images, allows me to test small static webpages in a
         | package no bigger than a literal match box.
         | 
         | It runs Debian based Armbian and is rock solid after updating
         | it to Debian 11. It makes my life easier and helps me learn
         | working with constrained systems which allows me to be better
         | at my day job.
         | 
         | [0]: http://www.orangepi.org/orangepizero/
        
           | throwaway2048 wrote:
           | OrangePi zero has nothing to do with Vortex86
        
             | bayindirh wrote:
             | They're equally constrained systems, even if they are not
             | used for exactly same things.
             | 
             | I care for the constrained resources and the form factor.
             | CPU architecture is just a secondary item in my list.
        
         | fmakunbound wrote:
         | Industrial control systems
        
         | voxadam wrote:
         | Vortex86 SoCs were once quite commonly found on embedded boards
         | used in industrial automation. Outside of that I'm willing to
         | bet you'd find them in semi-embedded applications like point-
         | of-sale devices.
        
           | sgerenser wrote:
           | A previous company I worked at used a Vortex86DX embedded
           | board as a replacement for an older Pentium/Celeron board
           | that went EOL. It was one of the last x86 CPUs made that
           | still supported the ISA bus that the product used to talk to
           | custom hardware.
        
             | jasoneckert wrote:
             | I'm always shocked how many legacy hardware/systems are
             | still in widespread use. Companies such as DM&P that
             | produce the Vortex86 likely have a nice solid revenue
             | stream and will for decades.
        
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       | marcodiego wrote:
       | Considering Vortex86 is still currently produced, are x86
       | compatible and free from IME and PSP, could they qualify as
       | modern processors for fsf's ryf certification?
        
       | sparcpile wrote:
       | TheRasteri on had a set of Youtube videos where we created a
       | DOS/Windows 98 gaming PC using the Vortex86DX and when through a
       | set of benchmarks and comparisons. The retro enthusiast community
       | started about the WeeCee that he created.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/6cXdWMOl8QE?t=45
       | 
       | Edit to change the YouTube video start time to where the
       | TheRasteri gets into the details of the Vortex86 history and
       | benchmarking.
        
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