[HN Gopher] Putin's State Media News Is Interrupted: 'They're Ly...
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Putin's State Media News Is Interrupted: 'They're Lying to You'
Author : virtualwhys
Score : 125 points
Date : 2022-03-14 21:05 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| ericjang wrote:
| Thread with additional context about Marina Ovsyannikova
| https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1503453848786059270?s=2...
|
| Her bravery is incredible.
| paxys wrote:
| This is an incredibly brave move. Sadly I don't think this woman
| is ever seeing life outside of a prison cell again.
| FpUser wrote:
| I hope Putin will be exterminated. She still has a chance.
| tus666 wrote:
| Russians already know this.
|
| It's the West that needs this kind of intervention.
| ogogmad wrote:
| I've seen some surveys on Russian streets which show otherwise.
| "ia za putina." "Ia dumaiu, chto on umnyi chelovek."
| bigodbiel wrote:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30506536
| myko wrote:
| Could you explain what you mean? The west is strongly against
| the war in Ukraine that Putin started - what specific
| intervention do you recommend?
| tus666 wrote:
| That the media lies and is full of propaganda.
| ralfn wrote:
| Yeah. Its exactly like the sort of propaganda in Russia.
|
| Impressive though, how "the West" does all that project
| management and is capable of coordinating all their lies in
| so many different languages across so many different
| cultures and so many different ideologies and religions.
|
| The trap, like always, is in the premise. This isn't Russia
| vs the West. Like its two superpowers battling.
|
| This is an authoritarian hierarchical regime vs Ukraine.
| That same regime vs Poland. That same regime vs Finland.
| The same regime vs "empty sign holders".
|
| The West is not some kind of homogenous blob. The few times
| all media across all these countries say the same thing, is
| when the other side is lying pants-on-fire.
|
| They are literally suggesting Greece, Turkey, Germany and
| Poland are conspiring and coordinating to harm a hasbeen
| superpower with an economy the size of a potato of which
| half is energy exports. And the little bit of money they do
| make is then spend on the military, but due to the
| corruption, all ends up in apartments in London and yachts
| in Italy.
| 1024core wrote:
| Now where's Max Headroom when you need him?
| ogogmad wrote:
| The polar opposite of this act is here:
| https://nitter.net/femeninna/status/1503464366330548227#m
|
| _"If you think that we will stop in #Ukraine, you are deeply
| mistaken, this is just an intermediate stage" says the main
| Kremlin's propagandist, Vladimir Solovyev_
| neskorodev wrote:
| 10-15 years in prison because fresh local laws. Sad to say that.
| She is the hero.
| hirundo wrote:
| Courage on the order of Tank Man.
| 2-718-281-828 wrote:
| Couldn't read the sign as her huge balls of steel were obscuring
| it.
|
| </reddit>
|
| How can you be so brave? I mean - she must know what she's up for
| now ... very sad.
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| titanomachy wrote:
| Care to elaborate?
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| The narrative that all of Russian news and media is
| propaganda is false.
| ogogmad wrote:
| At this point, it's so much obfuscation and noise that it's
| hard to know where the signal is.
|
| Russians employ disinformation -- which is a term meaning
| strategic lying -- to get their way. The level of chutzpah
| when they accuse Ukraine of being a neo-Nazi country, and
| so on and so on...
| babypuncher wrote:
| The recent "fake news" laws they passed seem to indicate
| otherwise.
| temptemptemp111 wrote:
| [deleted]
| tablespoon wrote:
| Then the next story down in Bloomberg's infinite scroll:
|
| https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-14/elon-musk...
|
| > Billionaire Elon Musk has challenged Russian President Vladimir
| Putin to "single combat", with the "stakes" being Ukraine.
|
| > With Mr Putin's name written in Russian and Ukraine written in
| Ukrainian, the Tesla chief executive tweeted: "I hereby challenge
| (Vladimir Putin) to single combat.
|
| > "Stakes are (Ukraine)."
|
| The nerve of that guy. Ukraine isn't his to bet.
| [deleted]
| wojciii wrote:
| Give it time.
|
| Its just a matter of time before
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Jox becomes reality.
| justsomehnguy wrote:
| Oof. Somebody still remember this.
|
| When I saw it in the nineties the ending felt like there is a
| hope what a solution for a peaceful co-existence _and
| partnership_ could be found soon.
| FpUser wrote:
| Cheap PR stunt. Disgusting I would say. This guy on the other
| hand is real: https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/09/ukraine-war-
| latvian-mp-j...
| TrispusAttucks wrote:
| https://archive.ph/W7cuU
| News-Dog wrote:
| Full Story at;
| <https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1580546/russian-state-t...>
| blibble wrote:
| source that isn't the express:
| https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60744605
| cab404 wrote:
| https://youtu.be/Baj1OXZTuE8
| hunglee2 wrote:
| Extraordinary intervention at huge personal risk. Her name is
| Marina Ovsyannikova and she is a hero
| nojonestownpls wrote:
| This takes no less courage than what Edward Snowden or Julian
| Assange did - the scale of actions may be different, but the
| amount of danger they put themselves into, in order to do what
| they believe is the right thing, is absolutely admirable.
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