[HN Gopher] Feminists Fought for the Right to Forget Childbirth
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Feminists Fought for the Right to Forget Childbirth
Author : serverlessmom
Score : 24 points
Date : 2022-03-14 20:20 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| hirundo wrote:
| I wonder if there's anything here to the puritan notion that
| virtue requires pain. It's cliche that men bond particularly
| tightly in the blood and fear of war. Does that apply to birth?
| Is the maternal bond strengthened by birth trauma? Or it could be
| that a painful birth weakens the bond with resentment.
| renewiltord wrote:
| My aunt was, decades ago, an obstetrician in the UAE where, in
| a certain community, there was a belief that painful childbirth
| formed a strong bond between mother and child. In practice,
| that meant there was a lot more screaming in the operating room
| there than in Leicester. As far as she could tell, the children
| weren't any more loved.
| igetspam wrote:
| Wow... that's terrible.
|
| If being in pain during childbirth was a way to create a
| stronger bond AND we actually believed it, we'd jab fathers
| with hot pokers while the mother was in labor. Pain would be
| a shared experience and we'd all bond. But that's not what
| would actually happen. We'd have a lot less childbirth if men
| had to endure physical pain during the hours of labor. It's
| more likely that they just wanted women to suffer for some
| fictional sin they found in one of their fantasy novels about
| gods.
| throwaway0a5e wrote:
| Shared adversity builds strong bonds but that kind of goes out
| the window if one party can't remember it and the adversity is
| therefore not shared. It's probably closer to sunk cost fallacy
| at that point.
| civilized wrote:
| My wife says she forgot it anyway. Because if you remembered
| you'd never have one again.
| thriftwy wrote:
| This higlights the importance of people stopping having
| _opinions_ about what other people need, while keeping their ego
| as small as possible. This includes doctors, and maybe even
| starts and ends there.
| drewcoo wrote:
| "In 1914, Feminists fought for health care for women" just
| doesn't have the same click appeal as that title.
| [deleted]
| hypertele-Xii wrote:
| While you're strictly speaking technically correct in your
| statement,
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| after reviewing the article in question,
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| I reject your comment.
|
| The title is appropriate to the fascinating details in the
| article's subject matter concerning a drug for women to sleep
| through the painful experience (in the most literal sense) of
| childrearing which feminists demanded access to.
| B1FF_PSUVM wrote:
| > the painful experience (in the most literal sense) of
| childrearing
|
| That is one amusing typo ...
| bonniemuffin wrote:
| Not gonna lie, if I had been offered this, I would've done it. It
| sounds pretty great to me. Regular childbirth is pretty horrible
| and I wish I didn't remember it.
|
| It sucks that as a result of women being forced to do twilight
| sleep even if they didn't want to, now we've taken that choice
| away completely and you can't do it even if you do want to.
| beardog wrote:
| Feminists also fought for non-paid public bathrooms, which is
| certainly a net gain in my view.
| david38 wrote:
| Unfortunately they've turned into drug stalls in many places. I
| would happily pay a higher tax for clean public restrooms.
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