[HN Gopher] Spotify was down
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Spotify was down
Author : DecayingOrganic
Score : 202 points
Date : 2022-03-08 18:20 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.spotify.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.spotify.com)
| _sword wrote:
| Is GCP having an outage for both Spotify and Discord to be down?
| pm90 wrote:
| This was my first guess as well since they're both pretty
| famous users of GCP.
|
| Next thing to check: Snap, Shopify, Macy's...
| bennyp101 wrote:
| Maybe the Apple event is taking all the bandwidth or they cut a
| deal to turn off everything else so you have to pay attention ;)
| fotta wrote:
| the Apple event stream died at the same time for me...I'm
| guessing something involving network backbone (L3 maybe?)
| heavymark wrote:
| Was wondering why I was logged out all of the sudden.
| dijit wrote:
| Is there a minor irony that they recently rejected me without an
| interview for an SRE role, despite matching 1:1 in my experience
| to the role they had open?
|
| I'm not bitter, but something is probably wrong when they're
| turning down qualified candidates without even speaking to them
| first.
| rkuykendall-com wrote:
| > something is probably wrong when they're turning down
| qualified candidates without even speaking to them first
|
| Maybe I've only worked at bad companies, but this is the norm
| where I have been. Literally anything in your resume could have
| triggered someone to nix an interview. Interview culture is
| very "best of the best" in ways that make completely backwards
| sense.
| dijit wrote:
| That's worrying, but I am serious about matching experience
| 1:1 with the role that was presented.
|
| Perhaps they assume I'm overqualified, but that seems odd,
| especially in this climate.
| mellavora wrote:
| Anyone familiar with nugs.net? https://www.nugs.net/about-us.html
| They promise CD-quality downloads and streaming.
|
| Thinking of signing up. If I like it, I'll endorse it the next
| time a "spotify is problematic" story comes up on HN.
|
| Also, if you have a favorite spotify alternative, might be
| interesting to mention it here.
| kccoder wrote:
| Discord also appears to be down.
| TremendousJudge wrote:
| and Twitter had issues a couple of hours ago. weird day, could
| this be some sort of attack? it's not like any cloud providers
| have reported issues afaik
| mwt wrote:
| Google Cloud is reporting some oopsies
| cableshaft wrote:
| Azure DevOps is "Investigating a service disruption" right
| now as well.
| brown9-2 wrote:
| of course https://status.cloud.google.com/ is all green
| ben174 wrote:
| Hah, expecting status pages to be honest.
| TremendousJudge wrote:
| And so is AWS, at least according to downdetector. It would
| be a bit of a very large coincidence for both to have
| issues at the same time
| grumple wrote:
| Usually this points to something like a fiber cut or
| backbone misconfig. Sometimes it can also be a data
| center issue with some trickling effects on other parts
| of the network.
| Macha wrote:
| Reading between the lines on the discord one, it seems self
| inflicted. Seems they restarted a service which caused an
| outage of one feature to extend to a general API outage.
| acqbu wrote:
| now back up; it was horrible
| t_mann wrote:
| Spotify, Discord, AWS - bets are on, do you think the timing is a
| coincidence or is Vlad's cyber offensive finally kicking into
| gear, two weeks in?
| rydgel wrote:
| Both Spotify and Discord are not on AWS
| t_mann wrote:
| Yet they're experiencing outages at the same time. If they
| don't share a platform then that actually makes it look less
| like a coincidence I'd say, no? (still not saying it means
| anything, maybe they have some joint dependencies that are
| down for completely unrelated reasons)
| derkades wrote:
| People are falsely reporting, just look at how many
| comments on the downdetector cloudflare page are actually
| about Discord/Spotify.
| paulpauper wrote:
| I want to listen to neil young! lol
| Ftuuky wrote:
| Playlist was all stored and cached in the phone and get logged
| out mid-track. Can't access it anywhere now.
| heavenlyblue wrote:
| Spotify decided to log out while on the flight :(
| h1srf wrote:
| I feel you. I'm about to board a flight and Spotify logged me
| out while I was listening to an offline playlist.
| DaGardner wrote:
| this annoys me as well, why would the app decide to log me out,
| when it cannot connect to the backend? I have playlists
| downloaded for this exact reason...
| mjevans wrote:
| This is why you should just say NO to DRM.
| gnulinux wrote:
| Same, it logged me out and can't log back in. I have dozens
| of hours of music downloaded on my phone for this exact
| reason... And I bought Spotify premium for this exact reason,
| to listen to offline music. What a shame.
| jessaustin wrote:
| It logged you out while in "airplane mode"? How did it decide
| to do that?
|
| Genuinely curious, I don't use it but would have expected
| offline things to continue as they were while cut off from the
| rest of the network.
| heavenlyblue wrote:
| I was not in airplane mode, but we were 20k ft above ground.
| It logged me out about 40 minutes into the flight which makes
| 0 sense to me.
|
| To be fair to Spotify it never happened to me before. Maybe
| it's their DRM that just locks you out if it can't reach the
| server with a timeout of 1 hour or so (1 hour conditional on
| the last attempt being a failure).
| _joel wrote:
| What makes you think they were in Airplane mode?
| Jamie9912 wrote:
| If anyone wants to download their Spotify playlist (actual rip)
| offline I found this tool very useful
| https://github.com/eviabs/downtify-premium
| thehta wrote:
| Any working cross-platform rippers that you know of?
| dainiusse wrote:
| It is DNS
| arpa wrote:
| don't think so.
| jgrahamc wrote:
| It's working for me in Portugal. Just played a song in the app.
| that I've never played before.
| jgrahamc wrote:
| Not us.
| mucholove wrote:
| Oh good. Glad to know I'm not the only one :)
| ianhanschen wrote:
| Wikipedia English also appears to be down.
| vpribish wrote:
| working for me
| Symmetry wrote:
| And Cloudflare maybe? They just announced they wouldn't be
| cutting off Russia which might have been the reason but I think
| the other services affected use Google Cloud?
| Jamie9912 wrote:
| Cloudflare is working fine for me.. even Discord's CDN is
| behind it and working fine
| pfp wrote:
| There are disruptions in GPS signals in Eastern and Central
| Finland as well. [1]
|
| No prizes for guessing the most obvious culprit.
|
| [1] https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12348237
| fluidcruft wrote:
| I'm not sure what you're suggesting. Russia doing something to
| disrupt GPS? NATO switching GPS to combat mode? What?
| fergbrain wrote:
| No, Russia is likely jamming GPS. It's a somewhat frequent
| occurrence even before the war.
| fluidcruft wrote:
| Ok but what does any of this have to do with Spotify?
| 2000UltraDeluxe wrote:
| According to Downdetector, there's a large amount of
| services that have outages at the moment:
| https://downdetector.com/
|
| The graphs for Spotify and multiple other services look
| very similar, so Spotify being down might just be a part
| of something larger. Whether it's Russian hackers or some
| more mundane is pure speculation at this point.
| jessaustin wrote:
| They _did_ block RT... I wouldn 't have expected any
| hackers to have cared too much about that, however.
| [deleted]
| pfp wrote:
| It's called hybrid warfare.
| pfp wrote:
| Russians DDOSing various services and jamming communications.
|
| Dunno if "combat mode" GPS is a thing anymore with GLONASS
| etc.
| driverdan wrote:
| What does that have to do with Spotify being down?
| [deleted]
| sankalpshere wrote:
| Spotify works on desktop for me for all songs. Logged out of all
| the mobile apps :(
| gusfoo wrote:
| A suspected BGP leak https://bgpstream.com/event/287678 happened
| at 17:52 in the Netherlands. Downdetector (roughly) shows the
| graph start to spike around https://downdetector.com/status/aws-
| amazon-web-services/ 17:55.
|
| Could be coincidence, of course.
| testplzignore wrote:
| Assuming that there is a connection between the Discord and
| Spotify outages...
|
| The Discord status page ( https://discordstatus.com/ ) says
| this: "We believe the cause is upstream of our service and our
| providers are working on determining and correcting the issue
| upstream."
|
| In my experience, vague blaming of upstream providers is either
| BGP or a cable cut.
| curiousgal wrote:
| Hopefully someone will get their downtime bingo!
| sublimefire wrote:
| The painful bit was that I got automatically logged out with all
| of those "offline" songs. Is it a feature or a bug? IMO if there
| was no logout then many clients would just keep playing the
| cached songs, and people would not notice a disruption that much.
| donretag wrote:
| Thankfully, for me, offline songs are still working on my
| Garmin watch.
| manquer wrote:
| Offline is just bandwidth saving feature. It is not intended to
| be 100% offline especially when all service APIs are down. It
| is designed for no network, not handle failures of service
| backend.
|
| Clients would need to keep checking once in a while to see if
| your account is still active.
| lelandfe wrote:
| Their offline playback support is a joke. The iOS app will
| attempt to load album art _indefinitely_ before allowing one to
| play saved songs - if you 're on shaky internet (e.g. on the
| subway), you have to turn off cellular and WiFi entirely.
|
| Google Play Music was the only app to really nail it, but
| Google sadly put it out to pasture.
| techsupporter wrote:
| > Google Play Music was the only app to really nail it
|
| For what it's worth, I have had good results with Apple
| Music. It works great as a "custom jukebox in the sky" for
| me.
|
| I use iTunes installed from the Windows Store and just drag
| my own music files onto iTunes. It syncs them to Apple Music
| where the files stand right alongside the streamed tracks
| from the paid service. I can put them in playlists together,
| edit metadata for my own tracks or Apple Music ones, see (and
| add!) lyrics, and so on. They even have an Android mobile
| app.
| lelandfe wrote:
| The thing GPM did that neither Apple Music nor Spotify do
| was cache played songs in an offline playlist. You could
| specify the size of the cache you wanted (e.g. 10GB), and
| each time you streamed a song it would thereafter be
| playable offline until dropped from cache.
|
| You're dead on, though, that Apple Music is lightyears
| ahead of Spotify wrt local files.
| techsupporter wrote:
| That is very cool, I didn't know about that feature. I
| agree, that would be super neat. The closest Apple Music
| gets is you can set it up to automatically download to
| mobile any tracks added to library with the "+" button.
| throwmeariver1 wrote:
| Tidal keeps offline files even if you get logged out.
| fabrice_d wrote:
| You didn't buy these songs, so they won't let you enjoy them if
| you can't log in. What a wonderful world!
| manquer wrote:
| We rent our entertainment now, it won't be possible to own
| all the songs average listener consumes at $100-200/year
| outlay that streaming apps charge.
|
| The trade off for that very cheap renting model instead of
| owning it, is you can get kicked out anytime for any reason.
| julkali wrote:
| I am under the impression that Spotify doesn't care a lot about
| UX in general. Inconsistencies in gesture handling, sessions
| still buggy after years, being logged out as soon as the API is
| unreachable, directly playing a song when opening a link, etc
| bartread wrote:
| Agree. They don't care about UX at all.
|
| Trivial example: the Home button that doesn't reliably take
| you home. It's some sort of home/back hybrid where you're
| never quite sure what it's going to do (this is on iOS).
| Instead have two buttons: one for Home and one for Back. Then
| we'd all know what to expect when we pressed one of them. Not
| difficult, is it?
|
| More substantive example: poor integration, to the point of
| being dangerous, with Apple Carplay, and a generally crappily
| optimised, unresponsive and, yes, dangerous experience for
| driving with or without it. Every time my Apple Carplay
| connection fails it's due to Spotify. Every. Single. Time.
| Screw you, Spotify: I couldn't give a damn about Joe Rogan
| but if you don't fix your poor quality, dangerous user
| experience I'll cancel, because it's not worth a horrific car
| accident just to switch to a different playlist.
|
| (Tangentially, since I mentioned Joe Rogan already, I'm
| unpleased that a bunch of songs have disappeared from my
| playlists because of Spotify's poor and purely reactive
| handling of his podcast. I like the fact that he talks to
| people from a range of viewpoints, many of which I disagree
| with: I don't like the fact that it took a social media
| fiasco and a bunch of artists leaving to label and tag his
| episodes more responsibly. You should have known what you
| bought when you acquired rights to his podcast: it's called
| due diligence. You should have had, and implemented, a
| business integration plan, in place from day one. Who spends
| $100M+ without doing this? I'm guessing all you saw is
| subscriber numbers. Stop being lazy.)
|
| I wish I could reincarnate Steve Jobs so he could go and work
| at Spotify and fire Daniel Ek and Gustav Soderstrom in an
| elevator because I honestly can't think of two individuals
| more deserving of such a fate.
|
| (Btw, I realise the thinking here is likely that if you have
| the artists maybe the product doesn't matter so much but, as
| the Rogan incident shows, having the artists isn't
| guaranteed. You need subscribers onboard too, to ensure that
| artists are less tempted by other platforms an options, which
| means the UX needs to be solid. Clearly it's not at the
| moment.)
| mattl wrote:
| Yeah, he's gonna come back to life and go work for those
| bozos :/
| el_benhameen wrote:
| They absolutely do not care. My favorite feature is the
| ability to download podcasts for offline play--podcasts that
| are then inaccessible when offline because the rest of the UI
| requires an internet connection to load and function.
| AitchEmArsey wrote:
| I cancelled my subscription last week precisely because of
| the poor UX.
|
| It really pisses me off that they charge what feels like a
| disproportionate amount (certainly more than I've ever spent
| on music elsewhere), offer a very simple service only
| passably well, then waste their revenue on SV dev salaries
| (with no obvious benefit to the users in features or
| stability) - and of course their illustrious podcast hosts.
| l30n4da5 wrote:
| > then waste their revenue on SV dev salaries
|
| wouldnt really call that a waste if those devs are
| producing meaningful features and/or fixing bugs.
|
| devs work on the features they are told to, they don't
| direct what features get put in place or even how those
| features should behave in UX, most of the time.
|
| seems more a design and/or project management failure, to
| me.
| AitchEmArsey wrote:
| I'd say if those people are not being utilized to improve
| the product, then yes it is a waste - who is to blame for
| the waste is a different matter, but management is the
| obvious place to look.
| ardit33 wrote:
| Best engineers and designer have left after the IPO, that's
| why. They don't pay super well, so the new people that came
| later on are not necessary the best.
|
| That's why Spotify has been slow on introducing new features
| or fixing existing ones.
| zthrowaway wrote:
| I'm sure their UX Researchers try, but like most shops their
| findings never make it into the skulls of the PM's and Devs.
| There's a massive issue in our industry with R&D ignoring UX
| research guidance, or just flat out thinking they know
| better.
| radicality wrote:
| Agreed, the UX is awful. Just a moment ago I was attempting
| to unshuffle my Discover Weekly playlist on an iPad, and
| honestly still have no idea how to do it. The big green play
| button shows a small activated shuffle icon, but how to undo
| it is either impossible or requires knowing the right
| sequence of UI button presses, swipes and magic spells.
| [deleted]
| fattless wrote:
| The inconsistencies bother me the most.
|
| I use it a lot while driving, and have to reach down to swipe
| the screen to skip a song. This is a pretty mindless, natural
| motion. Sometimes though (till I found out you can disable
| it) it would switch into car mode with no warning, meaning I
| need to look down, see the difference, and push the skip
| button with some precision, potentially dangerous. Why the
| car mode couldn't use the swipes is beyond me, or why it
| exists in the first place.
|
| I've since turned that off but my frustration is now from the
| lyrics feature. It's neat, and interesting in very specific
| scenarios, but I wish I could turn it off. A diagonal swipe
| brings it up, meaning I have to check it, swipe down, and
| then try again, too much for a previously thoughtless action.
|
| Yeah I don't use it for its "intended purpose", but these are
| little ux roadblocks that could improve others experiences. I
| don't see why it can't be slightly different.
| [deleted]
| paulpauper wrote:
| I used Spotify for free a few times and the interface is
| terrible . like from the early 2000s. no attempt at
| modernization or improvement. Compare it to YouTube.
| ibejoeb wrote:
| Which interface are you using? I use the android app and
| I'm pretty happy with it. My use case is primarily playing
| content on Sonos and cast devices.
| paulpauper wrote:
| desktop
| Nekhrimah wrote:
| The desktop app is indeed horrible. To start with, a
| substantial part of the right hand screen real estate is
| permanently to your social media presence. Don't want to
| connect anything? Still can't dismiss this entire waste
| of space.
|
| On iOS it's fairly simply to remove songs from the active
| queue. God help you on desktop. No consistency in design.
|
| Please pay more UI/UX staff, and less Rogan.
| boxingrock wrote:
| on MacOS -> View -> Friends Activity... come on man
| abhiminator wrote:
| Discord seems to be down as well -- https://discordstatus.com
| balaji1 wrote:
| I tried to login to Spotify today, after many weeks. And it was
| down at that time. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed
| definitely.
| ng12 wrote:
| My music is still streaming on speakers in the other room but I
| can't log in to pause it. Really annoying.
| sbierwagen wrote:
| Ah, our glorious sci-fi future.
| zekica wrote:
| Just unplug it?
| black_puppydog wrote:
| A hammer will work as a non-temporary workaround. You're
| welcome. :)
| mdrzn wrote:
| And now that it's up and I can login, all the playlists and music
| are gone. Looks like a fresh new account. Seems like they still
| have some issues..
| shimmy568 wrote:
| Spotify is still working for me on their desktop app for the
| downloaded songs. Really weird that it logged everyone out on
| mobile...
| GnomeSaiyan wrote:
| I got logged out from both mobile and desktop apps. Very
| frustrating.
| gatonegro wrote:
| I got logged out from their website!
| gchokov wrote:
| East Europe, no downtime, I was listing during the whole time. I
| often wonder, how can Spotify be so-fricking-fast and reliable.
| gatonegro wrote:
| And this is why I refuse to give up on owning media and relying
| on streaming. Discord seems to be gone, as well.
| apetresc wrote:
| _This_ is why? Because once every year or two it 'll be
| unavailable for a couple of hours?
| gatonegro wrote:
| Because my access to it shouldn't depend on a third party's
| uptime. The fact that it's "a couple of hours once a year"
| doesn't make it any better.
|
| We've been conditioned to just accepting that random outages
| and corporate decisions can take things away from us, but it
| is a ridiculous proposition that only benefits the bottom
| line of the service providers. I understand that the
| "convenience" angle might be attractive to some, but
| personally I don't think it's worth the trade-offs.
|
| And this is not just about music, or movies. It applies to
| all forms of data that we have collectively agreed can just
| live in the cloud, because the cloud will always be there and
| we don't have to think about it. Until one morning you find
| that the cloud is unavailable, and so is all your data.
|
| Physical media is inconvenient in a lot of ways, but to me is
| still an infinitely better proposition than trusting a bunch
| of random companies to provide me with access to digital
| media.
| [deleted]
| rodamaral wrote:
| Or perhaps if you are a Russian person that was cancelled by
| them. They might like to do it afterwards with you, western
| citizen.
| vinayan3 wrote:
| We've all come to accept random outages for so many of
| services we use. I wish we didn't have to because for some of
| these services I really don't have a backup. Given how
| infrequent they happen it's not worth my time to invest in
| having a ready backup for music streaming, when I'm not at
| home with my NAS. Other forms of distribution didn't have
| "outages" like CDs but these days when a cloud service outage
| happens it's like half the internet goes out. These types of
| outages are quite impactful.
|
| From another perspective living in the US I'm pretty grateful
| that the power is super stable because so many things I rely
| on need power and they almost always work. In India it's
| common to have rolling blackouts so people are quite adapted
| to outages daily.
| nonameiguess wrote:
| I'm not sure I accept that. A whole lot of CDs I owned at
| one point got scratched to the point that at least some
| part of a song couldn't be listened to any more. In some
| cases, the entire CD stopped being readable. Sometimes,
| they went beyond scratching to breaking. They could get
| lost. The players broke. Did loss of listenability due to
| physical degradation of media happen more or less than
| Spotify goes out? I have no idea. But CDs in boomboxes
| definitely did not have 100% uptime.
| jjulius wrote:
| I have plenty of CDs that are nearly three decades old
| and still play great. The point is that the onus is on me
| to maintain my collection and my listening equipment.
| Well-kept media and well-maintained gear shouldn't break,
| and if it does then at least the fix is dependent on
| _me_.
|
| I don't want to rely on a corporation's uptime and
| solvency to listen to music.
| wilkystyle wrote:
| While this particular scenario is quite rare (this is the
| first time I've been personally affected since starting my
| membership in 2013), I understand the parent commenter's
| sentiment. It was a little jarring to realize that all of my
| library's (and basically any on-demand) music was completely
| unavailable and at the mercy of this issue being resolved.
|
| Again, a temporary issue and one that happens quite
| infrequently, but if you already may have conflicting
| opinions on whether it's better to own or rent your music,
| this is certainly a valid point.
|
| edit: mobile typos
| engineeringwoke wrote:
| I feel like it's really just a sort of existential dread
| about being reliant on anyone for anything, other than
| oneself. It's like being afraid that if there's a zombie
| apocalypse then you won't be able to listen to the same old
| songs on repeat like a scene out of I am Legend
| jwommack wrote:
| What's the phrase? You'll own nothing and be happy.
| bob1029 wrote:
| To be more generous, there are also many cases where more
| obscure music will start evaporating from your playlists.
| Some of us have serious problems with this kind of UX.
| gatonegro wrote:
| This is something else I forgot to mention, but it drives
| me absolutely mental. Music vanishing from my playlists,
| old TV shows I'm watching are suddenly not available.
| Paying for that kind of experience strikes me as a horrid
| proposition.
| rbritton wrote:
| This is why I personally built a home media server. Lapsing
| licensing agreements, older content, escalating streaming
| subscription costs, etc all led me to it. The secondary
| effect of being able to consume the content without
| depending on anything other than electricity is an
| additional benefit.
| jjulius wrote:
| Why should I have to rely on a corporation's uptime and/or
| solvency to listen to music?
| curiousgal wrote:
| This is why I have Spotify AND YouTube Music. More consumerism
| is always the answer! /s
| mouse_8b wrote:
| Yup. I turned on the record player instead. I'm glad I still
| have a dumb machine I can fall back on when all of the
| technology fails.
| gatonegro wrote:
| Sadly I don't have a proper record player setup here--only my
| CD Walkman, but I have plans for something else down the
| line. But I do have a healthy music library on my main PC.
| throw_m239339 wrote:
| You don't own media, you just pay for the right to listen/see
| it. A subtle but important difference. Just like software with
| a license granting the right to use that software.
|
| Now of course, technically, Warner can't go after your CD
| collection, just like Adobe couldn't refuse you to use your
| boxed copy of Photopshop pre-CC...
| detaro wrote:
| > _You don 't own media, you just pay for the right to
| listen/see it. A subtle but important difference_
|
| Explain please, in what way do I not own the media I bought?
|
| EDIT: responding to your edit:
|
| > _Now of course, technically, Warner can 't go after your CD
| collection_
|
| and non-technically, what's the "subtle but important"
| difference here?
| thusjustin wrote:
| You can't rebroadcast it for a profit, for example.
| wrs wrote:
| You own the physical media but not the data (song) that's
| stored on it. That's literally what copyright is: the right
| to copy. You don't buy that right when you buy the CD.
| detaro wrote:
| I kind of expected something that's relevant to the
| comment the GP made about "owning media" in the context
| of other distribution mechanism going down (ignoring that
| I indeed have the right to copy discs I own, for limited
| purposes), not a "did you know that owning music media
| means what everyone understands owning music media to
| mean".
| brthsim wrote:
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| As I've said before: Spotify / Tidal / YouTube Music is great
| for discovery, IMO. Just not consumption. I use them for
| checking out new artists, or albums by artists that I haven't
| heard before. But once I've passed from the "Huh, that was
| interesting" stage to "Yeah, I think I'm gonna listen to this
| album again in the future", it's time to buy it, rip it to
| MP3/FLAC(if I bought a physical copy), and get it into my media
| collection backups.
| boxingrock wrote:
| exactly, when i'm listening to music for 8 hours a day,
| discovering new artists and community made playlists is the
| killer feature. what i'm starting to hate about spotify is
| the politics behind what music is available. i invest the
| time into building out playlists just to have half the songs
| get blacked out a few days later because "money", yet the
| record label has the album on youtube as f2p.
|
| also, show me how my monthly subscription is divided up while
| you're at it.
| adriancarrieres wrote:
| I should probably do that as well, but I listen to so much
| music that it would be really painful to back it up.
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| I have 1.5TB of music. It's _because_ I have so much that I
| make sure I 've got backups, backups of backups, etc.
|
| Just get some kind of syncing client so that you can just
| copy the deltas when you're making backups of backups.
| Offsite/cloud backup couldn't hurt, either.
| colinmhayes wrote:
| The whole point of music streaming services is to avoid doing
| this. Maybe it works for you, but that does not sound like a
| sustainable strategy for someone who listens to 100+ albums a
| year.
| faeyanpiraat wrote:
| I have like 400 favorite songs from wide variety of genres,
| and I've seen some songs becoming unavailable over time.
| And I don't know what it was, so I have no way to get it
| back in any way.
|
| Not a huge loss, but annoying.
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| I don't see why. Maybe for those like me who still buy
| physical CD's and rip them, okay--but let's assume you buy
| all of your music, just digitally, meaning you purchase MP3
| albums in full from Amazon/iTunes/Bandcamp, etc. Most of
| the work is already done for you, since the services
| themselves already function as sort of a "cloud backup";
| your computer or smartphone fries, you can always sign into
| the service again from your new device and pull everything
| down once more. The only remaining piece is to have your
| own _offline_ backup of all the stuff you purchased, in
| case Epic were to shut Bandcamp 's doors tomorrow. It's
| even less likely that Amazon or iTunes would go away
| quickly.
|
| And FWIW, I do personal rips when I have to, but I'm also
| as lazy as the next guy. Best case scenario is I buy a
| physical disk from the artist directly on Bandcamp which
| automatically includes a digital version as well. Next
| best, Amazon albums that include AutoRip. Finally, physical
| copies from private storefronts or used markets, and I'll
| do the rip myself.
| iso1210 wrote:
| > rip it to MP3/FLAC
|
| Alas that's illegal in the UK
| Nextgrid wrote:
| To be fair, piracy was always illegal - it didn't stop it.
| gatonegro wrote:
| This is essentially what I've been doing. Spotify is usually
| decent enough when it comes to recommending new artists based
| on what I'm listening. When I find an artist whose work I
| plan on listening on a regular basis, I'll jump to Bandcamp
| or some other site where I can buy the song or album I'm
| interested in.
|
| Sadly, the list of such sites seems to be shrinking with
| every passing year, and I've found many artists I'd like to
| support by buying their stuff, but they only offer streaming
| options. I've noticed it happens more frequently with artists
| that have been scooped up by a major label or one of its
| subsidiaries, unsurprisingly.
| bena wrote:
| Tell me about it.
|
| I live in an area impacted by Hurricane Ida. For a long while,
| we had electricity, but no internet. Having physical media
| meant I could still watch/listen to things.
| implements wrote:
| In the UK, physical media can be got for pennies from charity
| shops (our name for "Goodwill") - It's not a bad idea to stock
| up on favourite films, tv or music if you've got the space
| while it's still possible.
| stavros wrote:
| I hear there's currently a sale on The Pirate Bay too.
| conspire7777 wrote:
| chasd00 wrote:
| AWS is having problems, the two are probably related
|
| https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/
|
| EDIT: someone below mentioned Spotify is on GCP but Google
| appears to be having issues as well
| https://downdetector.com/status/google-cloud/
| estensen wrote:
| Spotify is on GCP
| tootie wrote:
| nytimes.com had a brief outage today as well
| bilekas wrote:
| This was my suspicion too, regardless aws issues will have a
| knock on effect with a lot of companies anyway.
| vinhboy wrote:
| My RDS became unreachable for about 15 minutes.
| smoe wrote:
| Is downdetector reliable at all? I feel every time something is
| down, a lot of unrelated sites also are reported as having
| problems. E.g. at the moment it reports AWS, GCP, Azure,
| Cloudflare and Facebook among others having issues.
| whyrusleeping wrote:
| downdetector just uses search trends from google and twitter
| and other social apps, its definitely not checking if the
| site is 'down' on its own.
| hanniabu wrote:
| How do they know what people are searching? I've never seen
| an api for that
| latchkey wrote:
| https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1501292209781366786
|
| Incidentally: @DownDetector is garbage. It merely looks at
| mentions on Twitter of people saying something is down. That
| includes incorrect speculation. And it even amplifies that
| speculation recursively. It's reliably wrong, by design.
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