[HN Gopher] Zain Nadella, Satya Nadella's son, dies at 26
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Zain Nadella, Satya Nadella's son, dies at 26
Author : softwarebeware
Score : 250 points
Date : 2022-03-01 17:29 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.ibtimes.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.ibtimes.com)
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| nojonestownpls wrote:
| My heart goes out to the Nadella family.
|
| I would suggest either of these two as a better link for this:
|
| https://www.ibtimes.com/zain-nadella-microsoft-ceo-satya-nad...
|
| https://www.geekwire.com/2022/zain-nadella-1996-2022-microso...
|
| The Yahoo! article is both lazily written and lazily edited
| ("Microsoft says ..." is an unnecessary and unfortunate title
| prefix, for news of this kind.)
| dang wrote:
| Ok, changed from https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-says-
| son-ceo-satya-.... Thanks.
| jimbob45 wrote:
| It seems like the unspoken implication is that the umbilical cord
| wrapped around the baby's neck, resulting in in-utero
| asphyxiation? However, the baby was born weighing only three
| pounds, which would seem to signify something else wrong prior to
| the asphyxiation, no?
| maronato wrote:
| My understanding is that the baby was prematurely removed
| because of the asphyxiation
| __s wrote:
| My sister had a knot in her umbilical cord. She ended up coming
| out alright, but started out very thin. The cord is cut off
| from adequately feeding the fetus
| [deleted]
| lukewrites wrote:
| Deepest sympathy for the Nadella family as they grieve the loss
| of their son.
| agumonkey wrote:
| courage to him and his family
| hemloc_io wrote:
| Having had to deal with this personally it's on of the hardest
| things to go through.
|
| Best wishes to them and their family. :(
| myth_drannon wrote:
| March is National Cerebral Palsy Awareness Month.
| pjbeam wrote:
| One of my biggest hopes is to be survived by all of my children.
| I can't imagine what it's like to bury your child. All the best
| to the Nadellas :/
| san_dimitri wrote:
| I think the accepted term for a parent who lost their child is
| Vilomah.
|
| https://dying.lovetoknow.com/ideas-advice-coping-grief/vilom...
| rodgerd wrote:
| When Malaysia Airlines 17 was shot down by Russia, a local part
| of the story was a couple whose three children were all on the
| flight.
|
| How do you even go on after that?
| adamredwoods wrote:
| Some people turn to religion, others try to find a purpose
| for it (cause or charity, see Sandy Hook Promise[1]), and
| sometimes others don't find a way to go on.
|
| [1] https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/who-we-are/about-us/
| crescentfresh wrote:
| > One of my biggest hopes
|
| Nice way to flip "my greatest fear"
| a4isms wrote:
| There is a story about this:
|
| _An emperor commissioned a work from the greatest calligrapher
| in the nation. "Make me something auspicious!" was the brief.
| The calligrapher thought for a moment, then wrote on a banner:_
|
| _Parents die. Emperor dies. Children die._
|
| _The emperor was outraged. "How is this auspicious? It speaks
| only of death!" The calligrapher was serene. "Emperor, there is
| nothing more auspicious than for your deaths to occur in the
| natural order. Would you have wanted to die before your
| parents? Would you want your children to die before you?_
| myth_drannon wrote:
| Because it is so traumatic, many languages don't have a word
| for a parent who lost a child. You have Orphans, Widows...
| stocknoob wrote:
| I think, unfortunately, it was so common as to not be
| notable. People had way more kids, and there was much more
| infant mortality. Still tragic of course.
| mmcdermott wrote:
| > I think, unfortunately, it was so common as to not be
| notable. People had way more kids, and there was much more
| infant mortality. Still tragic of course.
|
| More common, perhaps, but I'm not so sure about the not
| notable part. There are plenty of examples of great grief
| surrounding the loss of a child. An example that comes to
| mind from my recent reading is Dostoevsky and "The Brothers
| Karamazov." The author was experiencing grief from the loss
| of a 3 year old son and the book rings with it.
|
| However much the past is a different country, it is still
| populated by humans, same as any today.
| syrrim wrote:
| The lack of word suggests the opposite, that it was extremely
| common. Indeed, historically, nearly everyone would have lost
| a young child, and many people would have lost an older
| child.
| spockz wrote:
| The fact that it was common doesn't make it less traumatic.
| giantg2 wrote:
| Everything is relative and our expectations are set by
| society and what is common. Today, losing a child is
| pretty uncommon. 3-4 generations ago if was very common.
| You expected to have 4-10 children and to lose one or
| two. It wouldn't be a pleasant experience, but I think
| it's incorrect to say it wasn't less traumatic (you
| expected it, you lost a lower percentage, etc). To quote
| Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Torino, "You're geared
| for it".
| robertlagrant wrote:
| You're missing the point - check out the parent of the
| comment you're replying to.
| _rutinerad wrote:
| And no one suggested that it does.
| washadjeffmad wrote:
| It wasn't long ago that children commonly weren't named until
| they survived two years.
|
| Bureaucratic dehumanization is responsible for reinforcing
| traumas that cultures had already built ways of dealing with.
| My grandparents' generation reused the names of their
| children who didn't survive, but today, few couples would
| consider that with any name they were forced to write on both
| a birth and death certificate.
| Beltalowda wrote:
| That's from Six Feet Under, no?
|
| There's some good poetic value in it, but I don't know if
| it's actually true. It has more to do with the effect it has
| for someone's "normal" life cycle, which is why orphan is
| only applied to children and not adults. And as the sibling
| comment mentions, it was pretty common in a family of ~5-10
| to have at least one child die.
| [deleted]
| bregma wrote:
| Up until the English language stopped evolving so rapidly,
| the word for that was "normal".
| spoonjim wrote:
| For severely disabled children most parents hope to outlive
| their kids because they know that nobody will give them a
| parent's love when they are gone, even with Satya Nadella-level
| money. There have been some (tragic? bittersweet? I don't know)
| cases where an aging parent of a disabled child kills the child
| and then kills themselves to ensure that their kid doesn't get
| institutionalized after they're gone.
| schnevets wrote:
| > Satya, who took over the role of CEO in 2014, had been working
| on designing products to better serve users with disabilities. He
| said he had been using lessons he learned while raising and
| supporting Zain.
|
| Within the video games space, Microsoft and Sony have had an
| intriguing "arms race" related to accessibility across their
| platform. I can only assume Zain's condition was a motivating
| factor for Nadella.
| spoonjim wrote:
| Satya shared some information about Zain's story about 5 years
| ago: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/moment-forever-changed-our-
| li...
| hit8run wrote:
| This is so sad... Love to everyone that has lost someone.
| hrvach wrote:
| There is nothing in this world more difficult and heartbreaking
| than losing a child and I pray to God nobody has to go through
| this. Deepest sympathies for the entire family.
| rubyist5eva wrote:
| This is just heart wrenching, no parent should ever have to bury
| their children.
| tombert wrote:
| I'm really lucky to where most of the people that I care a lot
| about are still alive, but I realize that that's a finite luxury.
| Sooner or later either I or one of those people are going to die,
| and it's going to be sad.
|
| I think I'm gonna call my mom.
| seanmcdirmid wrote:
| I've lost both of my parents already (I'm 46), but if I ever
| lost my son I couldn't take it. Reading about anyone losing
| their kids is painful since I became a parent myself.
| itake wrote:
| dads need love too!
| godelmachine wrote:
| My mom is being treated for resistant schizophrenia and she's
| in a rehab. I get to talk with her only when the Counsellor is
| on duty.
|
| When I visited my mom last month, she was complaining she
| doesn't like 8 people ward coz of zero privacy and the need to
| share washrooms. She's been brought up as a princess and was
| highly pampered, being everyone's favorite, and finds it tough
| staying in such accommodations. She told me she wanted a single
| room to herself. I told her it's not good staying alone, we
| will get you into a double occupancy room, so there's someone
| in the room in case something untoward happens.
|
| Today, she called me via the Counsellor today after a week, and
| the call got disconnected in about a few seconds coz of bad
| network.
|
| I later called up the hospital but the Counsellor had left.
| However, I had her shifted from an 8 people ward to a 4 people
| ward today. It's because the rehab administrator advised that
| we have 4 people ward as well if you wanna consider. I said ask
| mom and see what she like - 4 sharing or 2 sharing. The admin
| called up 10 min and said your mom was okay with 4 sharing, and
| we have moved her there.
|
| Tomorrow, I will call her to ensure she's comfortable in 4
| sharing and if she does not like, next month I move her to 2
| sharing.
|
| Just a random post reading your comment.
| bufordtwain wrote:
| You definitely should. My mom was in a bad car accident some
| years ago and barely survived. Since that time I call her twice
| a week without fail. At this point I feel much more at peace
| with whatever happens.
| rootusrootus wrote:
| Much of my adult life was the same way. We used to talk about
| how great our family had it -- we went for decades without
| losing anyone close. We knew eventually our turn would come,
| but I treasured the time we did have.
|
| But come it did, about 7 years ago. Since then I've lost two
| brothers, my dad, my grandparents, and my best friend. The
| trite "fuck cancer" statement comes to mind regularly. Another
| friend of mine has cancer, my mom has terminal cancer, my
| stepmother has cancer...
|
| > I think I'm gonna call my mom.
|
| Always a good plan, I highly recommend it. I think I will do
| the same. Treasure your loved ones, even when times are good it
| can change suddenly.
| wnolens wrote:
| The same has happened to me. It's been almost every 1-2 years
| for the past 10 that I experience another great loss. Most
| recently was my mother. That one was/still is tough.
| adamredwoods wrote:
| I've also lost several loved ones from cancer. Stopping the
| metastatic progression is key to survival, but wow do
| cancerous cells ever know how to survive. We need to win
| this.
| fghorow wrote:
| As the Dad of a preemie, our only child who died at age 25, my
| heart goes out to the Nadella family.
|
| It would not surprise me in the least if Nadella steps down as
| CEO sooner rather than later. The trauma is that large.
| pnathan wrote:
| Condolences to Mr. Nadella & family.
|
| When my son was born, he had experienced symmetric intra-uterine
| growth restriction; something that seems like Zain Nadella
| experienced as well. It was clear looking at the photos in the
| NICU and meeting different parents, that some things come for us
| all, rich and poor.
| kizer wrote:
| Wow. I'm so, so sorry for Satya and his family. Zain seems like
| he was a beautiful person. What an absolute titan of a father,
| who not only has achieved incredible success, but who also made
| sure to share proudly with the world of technology all the
| lessons he learned about accessibility from Zain and the
| perspective of the disabled. Zain and Satya, you've made such an
| impact. God bless you.
| polysaturate wrote:
| Honest question...what specifically about Cerebral palsy would
| cause death at an early age (27 is early to die in modern times,
| IMHO)?
| myth_drannon wrote:
| Too many to list. But by the photos of it looks like it was
| severe, when the body is not able to move you get all kinds of
| chronic diseases. I think I read somewhere that pneumonia is
| number one because of the difficulty of eating and drinking and
| the food or liquids constantly get into the lungs.
| cardine wrote:
| My older brother (currently 31) has severe cerebral palsy -
| very similar to what Zain had.
|
| He has been healthy recently, but there have been many close
| calls. He has frequent seizures and many normally routine
| things can be life threatening. Others have mentioned things
| like pneumonia.
|
| He requires 24/7 medical attention, including a nurse who stays
| with him every night in case, among other things, his seizures
| get out of control. Thankfully for him, my mom is a nurse and
| we are fortunate that health insurance covers a very large
| amount of his medically necessary care.
| chemeng wrote:
| Depends on the severity of the condition, but if swallow is
| affected I believe aspiration, pneumonia, choking, are causes
| of premature death for CP.
| johntiger1 wrote:
| it sucks but when the underlying condition is so severe,
| something trivial/mundane and preventable in a healthy person
| is usually cause of death
| HideousKojima wrote:
| Can't speak to palsy but I had a friend with muscular dystrophy
| who passed in his late 20's. He couldn't swallow his own spit,
| and every 10 minutes or so I (or his attending nurse, or
| whoever he was spending time with) would need to help him drain
| it. He had the same sort of little vacuum that your dentist
| uses to get water out of your mouth during a cleaning or
| filling. I moved out of my hometown a few years before he
| passed so I don't know all the details, but I'm pretty sure his
| death had to do with respitory issues caused by his weakened
| muscles.
| trhway wrote:
| speaking as total layman wrt. medicine, i wonder whether it
| is possible to at least improve the condition a bit by
| implanting electrodes and triggering the needed muscle(s)
| similar to say pacemakers.
| 1adam1200 wrote:
| In diseases like muscular dystrophy there are no muscles to
| stimulate.
| HideousKojima wrote:
| There are still muscles, they slowly deteriorate over
| time though. When my friend was in 2nd grade or so he
| could still run and play with the other kids. For a few
| years after that he could still use a controller to play
| video games. As he deteriorated further, he couldn't even
| do that, and got most of his enjoyment from watching
| other people play games. Heartbreakingly his nephew, who
| was named after my friend, also suffers from muscular
| dystrophy since it's a genetic illness.
| Calavar wrote:
| I am a physician, though not a specialist in that
| particular area (otolaryngology).
|
| A healthy heart contracts exactly the same way (nearly)
| every time. There is a single electrical tree that
| coordinates the entire heart, so if you shock the tree at
| the right point, it will propagate down the entire tree in
| a predictable pattern and you get normal heart contraction
| "for free"
|
| The throat is orders of magnitude more complicated. There
| are several major muscles involved in swallowing, each of
| which can have tens to hundreds of thousands of individual
| fibers, each with their own innervation. Coordinating all
| these fibers to produce a single coherent motion is complex
| and is not fire and forget - it involves some pretty
| intricate feedback loops between processing centers in the
| brain and stretch receptors in the muscle, with the brain
| refining and redirecting movements based on updated data
| from the stretch receptors.
|
| It's like the sending a single strong electrical pulse to
| your lightbulb versus a CPU. It will probably do what you
| expect for the lightbulb (heart), but not for the CPU
| (throat).
| im3w1l wrote:
| > sending a single strong electrical pulse
|
| Technology is way further along than that though, e.g.
| https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60258620
| throwaway5752 wrote:
| Deepest condolences to the Nadella family. Their love for their
| son and his memory are a blessing.
|
| If you have been exposed to software accessibility, you know how
| challenging technology can be for people with even minor
| disabilities. Zain's father's love and dedication has had a
| profound impact improving the lives of many others.
| gigatexal wrote:
| Condolences to the Nadellas
| wanderingmind wrote:
| Sometimes when I complain about small aspects of my comfortable
| life, I need to look around and see people like Satya, who was
| able to not just juggle but be extraordinary in both his personal
| and professional lives. I just cant imagine how he did it. A true
| inspiration.
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