[HN Gopher] Anonymous takes down websites of Defense Ministry, R...
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Anonymous takes down websites of Defense Ministry, RT and Kremlin
Author : andrewstetsenko
Score : 207 points
Date : 2022-02-26 16:02 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (thebarentsobserver.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (thebarentsobserver.com)
| yyyk wrote:
| See xkcd 932 on this type of reporting:
|
| https://xkcd.com/932/
| dTal wrote:
| I dunno, it's a bit different when the "poster" is a weapon
| unto itself, in the theatre of information warfare. It's more
| like "hackers incapacitate CIA mind control device".
| jancsika wrote:
| To be fair the second panel be more like: "Someone found an
| open window in the CIA's poster-printing factory and used it to
| gum up the cogs in one of the conveyor belts."
| hughrr wrote:
| This is excellent. If you look elsewhere on the Internet you will
| find that most of the Russian tank crews and troops were told
| that they were doing an exercise and kept completely isolated "on
| mission" for a couple of months. Then they get orders to proceed
| into Ukraine, probably spun without any collateral information or
| lies. At this point under DDoS their usual news sources are GONE.
| That means no propaganda available from the Russian government.
| The only sources available to them, if they get access to them,
| are saying that they're the bad guys and that is soul crushingly
| demotivating when you don't know why you are where you are.
| chrischen wrote:
| The secrecy could be explained that they didn't want the
| invasion plans leaked by low level operations. Apple does the
| same thing with new products, with different teams working in
| isolation on a need to know basis. Clearly the army now knows
| exactly what they are doing and where they are, and they're
| still doing it.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > If you look elsewhere on the Internet you will find that most
| of the Russian tank crews and troops were told that they were
| doing an exercise and kept completely isolated "on mission" for
| a couple of months....At this point under DDoS their usual news
| sources are GONE.
|
| Really? I though RT was part of Russia's foreign propaganda
| effort, so I wouldn't expect it to have much effect on domestic
| news consumption. IIRC, actually Russians get their news from
| domestic outlets like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia-1
| and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_One_Russia.
|
| This is good news, but mainly because it interferes with
| Russia's foreign propaganda operations around this attack.
| kergonath wrote:
| I don't think the OP the as saying that the Russian soldiers
| were lost because RT was taken down. Rather that they were
| lost, on top of everything else that is happening currently.
|
| It is clear that RT is propaganda for foreign consumption,
| not domestic.
| NikolaNovak wrote:
| I am assuming the only information a solider will receive is
| from their commanding officer and their comrades. If they
| haven't seen alternate explanations by now, I have no
| particular reason to believe they suddenly will.
| ed_balls wrote:
| > tank crews and troops were told that they were doing an
| exercise and kept completely isolated
|
| Most likely they are lying to look more sympathetic - there is
| a video of a Ukrainian soldier asking questions to a captured
| tank crew member. He said "We were told we are doing
| exercises". Ukrainian solder responded "I've hearing the same
| shit since 2014"
| poisonarena wrote:
| No, Russians use telegram groups for this kind of thing, and if
| they are not savvy they will use VK
| yarpen_z wrote:
| Soldiers do not go into action with their phones. That's OPSEC
| 101.
|
| That's why we see so many smartphone recordings made by
| civilians, but not by the military.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| Russian soldiers staging for the attacks were posting to
| TikTok, and on the night of the invasion, traffic jams
| started showing up at 3am near the border.
|
| https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgd7dd/google-maps-live-
| traf...
|
| Seems clear the policy and the reality are not identical
| here.
| lolinder wrote:
| The expert quoted says that it almost certainly wasn't due
| to soldiers leaving their phones on. He suspects it was
| ordinary people who were slowed by the movement.
|
| That said, if they were posting on TikTok that's another
| story.
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| The linked article says "many commenters ... assume the
| Russian soldiers left their phones on ... but Lewis said
| that almost certainly was not the case, and the traffic
| data Google was showing was ordinary people who couldn't
| get on the road because of Russian military movement."
| Which doesn't rule it out, but clearly doesn't require it
| to be true.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| At 3am?
|
| "The traffic jam slowly extended to the border, where it
| then disappeared."
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| That still seems possible, if civilians have been fleeing
| in their cars? It sounded like drives that would have
| taken a day under normal conditions were taking several
| days in the current chaos. Which of course still doesn't
| mean Russian soldiers might have their phones on.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| Why would a traffic's jam worth of people be fleeing from
| Russia _into_ Ukraine alongside the invading forces?
| sorenjan wrote:
| Russian soldiers flirted with Ukrainian women on Tinder
| right before the invasion. Either they have no shame
| whatsoever, or they actually thought they would be welcomed
| as saviours, as so many soldiers been told before.
|
| https://www.the-sun.com/news/4757640/russian-soldiers-
| tinder...
| pcthrowaway wrote:
| If this wasn't a dead giveaway, the Sun is a tabloid so
| unlikely to be true unless you have a more credible
| source: "RUSSIAN soldiers began
| bombarding Ukraine yesterday -- with Tinder messages
| looking for love."
| uncletaco wrote:
| Aren't all British papers tabloids?
| jackweirdy wrote:
| They are either tabloids or broadsheets, the terms coming
| from the historical size of the physical newspaper.
|
| Broadsheets are physically bigger, more text, typically
| more serious, aiming at a more sophisticated reader
|
| Tabloids physically smaller, more salacious, aiming at
| the mass market
|
| (Many broadsheets became smaller to save printing costs
| over time, but the categories still apply)
| Closi wrote:
| It's worth saying that the word "tabloid" is typically
| used to refer to the style of journalism (ie the focus on
| entertainment) rather than in its historical context of
| the type/size of paper.
| matthewheath wrote:
| No, some are still broadsheets, such as the Financial
| Times, the Daily Telegraph, and the Sunday Times.
| bobthechef wrote:
| [deleted]
| hughrr wrote:
| That assumes Russia has a functional army which apparently it
| doesn't based on the stuff they have been posting for the
| last month everywhere.
| Lochleg wrote:
| Russian troops could simply be operating under the premise
| that none of their actions would be necessary if the West
| hadn't meddled and created the Ukrainian crisis in the first
| place. It's that simple.
| tartoran wrote:
| Ukraians are sick of being taken advantage of by Kremlin so
| naturally they opened towards the west. It's their choice
| as a sovereign nation. If they consider they get a better
| deal with the west then what do you expect the west to do,
| reject them for fear of Putin?
| bobthechef wrote:
| mywacaday wrote:
| Maybe the modern version of a leaflet drop is to drop
| smartphones with a data plant to Russian troops and let them
| find out for themselves
| godelski wrote:
| Wasn't one of the ways we knew Russians crossed into Crimea
| by Russian soldiers posting on TikTok? Little Green Men.
|
| So while yes, it is the smart thing to do it definitely isn't
| what happens in reality.
| rascul wrote:
| > Soldiers do not go into action with their phones
|
| Yes they do, all the time. I don't think anyone left the wire
| without their phone while I was in Afghanistan.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| Why? To take pictures? Were they in airplane mode?
|
| And it's one thing to not expect the Taliban to DF your
| phones. The Ukrainian military, especially with prior
| control of the cell infrastructure, is another story.
| structural wrote:
| If you need to coordinate with someone who isn't sitting
| by a radio, you need to call them (including the local
| govt, your own civilian personnel, etc.). You might not
| be issued a radio at all, so a phone is what you have.
|
| Commercial telecommunications are an important part of
| any military worldwide, when they are available - so you
| use them until someone actually starts DFing you
| accurately, and then even after that, it's a risk to be
| managed and certainly not black & white.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| In this case the Ukrainian military should be able to use
| the cell towers to DF every phone. I don't get why that
| would be a risk rather than a certainty.
| kingcharles wrote:
| Hey man, these Angry Birds aren't going to catapult
| themselves!
| dhosek wrote:
| Weren't, e.g., the Abu Ghraib photos and video from
| cellphones? I honestly don't have any first-hand knowledge,
| but I would be surprised if the facts on the ground vs
| official policy regarding soldiers' phones wouldn't be
| different. That said, I'd also be surprised if cellular
| internet was functional in the middle of a war.
| psyc wrote:
| "Private!! _DID_ I not tell you to put your phone in airplane
| mode? "
|
| "Sir yes sir!"
| foobarbecue wrote:
| YES I DID NOT?
| kingcharles wrote:
| Yes sir!
| vmception wrote:
| Now lets put you in their shoes. All your usual news sources
| are gone and you get the perspective from foreign news that the
| entity you represent is the aggressor, would that be convincing
| to you?
| hughrr wrote:
| Well the first thing I do is probably google something then
| so ...
| vmception wrote:
| Google is going to show you something that confirms your
| existing beliefs like a mirror, or you are going to see ad-
| ridden geocities-looking websites saying things that dont
| match your existing beliefs, from bloggers or news sources
| in governments you weren't indoctrinated to respect
|
| How effective do you think this would really be for most?
| andrewstetsenko wrote:
| That's a new way to fight against Russian tanks and troops
| gruez wrote:
| Taking down internet websites isn't anywhere close to "fight
| against Russian tanks and troops"
| cookie_monsta wrote:
| I suspect you may have missed the sarcasm here.
| rusras64 wrote:
| My city is bombed for 3 days in a row. Many of my friends took
| arms to defend the country. I'm grateful to any help from
| Anonymous!
| jacquesm wrote:
| Strength to you there!
| ch4s3 wrote:
| Stay safe, and good luck to your friends.
| weaksauce wrote:
| the world is on your side if not at your side just yet...
| hopefully putin gets deposed and someone more like your leader
| gets installed
| kingcharles wrote:
| If Ukraine wins this they should pull a switcheroo and invade
| Russia, oust Putin and install Zelensky in the Kremlin. For
| the lulz.
| JadeNB wrote:
| > hopefully putin gets deposed and someone more like your
| leader gets installed
|
| Given the choice, I'd definitely rather have Zelensky than
| Putin, but preferably not either. The world doesn't need more
| celebrity politicians. (I recognise that the US is scarcely a
| model here; I can only plead that I didn't want any of _our_
| celebrity politicians, either.)
|
| EDIT: To be quite clear, this is _not_ meant in any way as
| anti-Zelenksy. As the child comments say, correctly, he seems
| to be the leader Ukraine needs right now.
| avh02 wrote:
| I'd generally agree with you, but this celebrity president
| seems to have some sense and relative competence
| kergonath wrote:
| The Ukrainians choosing whomever they want is the best
| outcome. There is still the possibility that they could
| choose someone terrible, but that is their prerogative.
|
| The perfect president does not exist. I'd settle for one
| with whom you can have a discussion and who does not see
| the world through the prism of an imaginary past.
| JadeNB wrote:
| > The Ukrainians choosing whomever they want is the best
| outcome. There is still the possibility that they could
| choose someone terrible, but that is their prerogative.
|
| Oh, agreed! I certainly wouldn't say that Ukrainians
| shouldn't be able to select their own leader--they
| should, and, despite superficial impressions, have done
| so well. It's just that I hope the world doesn't learn
| from this that electing comedians is the way to go.
| kergonath wrote:
| > It's just that I hope the world doesn't learn from this
| that electing comedians is the way to go.
|
| Yeah. Though this one does not seem to behave so badly in
| the end. No comparison with Trump or Reagan.
|
| To be fair, whilst not a populist, I am fed up with
| career politicians and bland technocrats that are killing
| politics. We need doctors, lawyers, intellectuals,
| farmers, businessmen, factory workers, and much more (in
| no specific order) in our parliaments and amongst our
| elected people. A sweet spot between reckless clowns and
| psychopaths would be nice.
| lolinder wrote:
| In this case, it looks like Zelensky may be exactly what
| Ukraine needs right now. He might just be playing another
| part, but if so he's doing a really good job of it.
|
| "The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride."
| willis936 wrote:
| I didn't think the banner of Anonymous as-used-by leftist
| hacktivists was still active after the FBI's crackdown a decade
| ago. Imagine a world where the FBI treated white supremacist
| terrorists the same way they treat hacktivists.
| kodah wrote:
| Anonymous doesn't really have any political allegiance and
| doesn't do things for the reasons you think they do them. Most
| of those videos are made by non-technical people and are basic
| propaganda - and that's a big part in shielding Anonymous from
| too much federal heat. The people actually doing the work are
| mostly there for the laughs and clout. Second, Anonymous is
| mostly decentralized, much like terrorist networks. They gather
| on image boards you're probably detestful of and post messages
| on plain sight alongside a stream of repulsive content. They
| also splinter themselves across various IRC networks and now
| probably use more modern decentralized encrypted comms. That
| makes them difficult to track.
| TeeMassive wrote:
| kergonath wrote:
| You must be joking. Any sources to prop up that dubious
| assertion? How many mass shootings or bombings in the last 20
| years in either Europe or North America were done by self-
| proclaimed communists?
| TeeMassive wrote:
| Black Lives Matter, which by the admission of its own
| leaders is a Marxist organization, caused more than 2
| billions dollars in insurance claims during the George
| Floyd protests.
|
| https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/22/fa
| c...
|
| https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/02/2020-protests-
| changed...
| ipaddr wrote:
| The labelling is overboard.
|
| Hacktivists are not white hat hackers. They are black or grey
| and justify actions with personal morally. Judge each case by
| it's own merits. A lot of regular people get treated as
| terrorists when they do things like hack their school.
|
| I haven't ever heard of white supremacist terrorist. I've heard
| of terrorist, I've heard of white supremacist, but I don't
| think the groups bi-sect. What is the last white supremacist
| terror attack you remember?
| willis936 wrote:
| If you haven't heard of a white supremacist terror attack, it
| is because you are ignorant of domestic terrorist activities.
| That doesn't mean they don't exist.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_Unit.
| ..
|
| Also, you should revisit your hat definitions. White and
| black hat are a matter of political perspective for each act
| and issue, but hacktivists are definitively not grey hat.
| Veen wrote:
| And the FBI gave those attackers a pass, did it?
| willis936 wrote:
| Don't move the goalposts. White supremacist terror cells
| are not being cracked down on the same way OWS activists
| were. That's being given a pass.
| pkilgore wrote:
| Off the top of my head?
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting
| ericbarrett wrote:
| A few more:
|
| 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, USA, 168 killed:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
|
| 2019 El Paso Walmart shooting, USA, 23 killed:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
|
| 2019 Christchurch Mosque shooting, New Zealand, 51 killed:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
| Stevvo wrote:
| It's an open-pseudonym, has gone through many iterations. For
| all we know sometimes Anonymous _is_ the FBI.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| > For all we know sometimes Anonymous is the FBI.
|
| An entirely deniable front for US cyberwarfare (or way to
| rally hacktivists to their cause) seems like a valuable thing
| for a nation state to create.
| lowwave wrote:
| wasn't there an original PGP signature that verify the first
| Anonymous?
| Geezus-42 wrote:
| When I first heard of Anonymous they were going after
| scientologist. It has definitely been used by a number of
| groups over time, probably with some overlap.
| bckr wrote:
| That's the beauty of Anonymous, isn't it? It's a hydra.
| befeltingu wrote:
| Where are all these white supremacist terrorists and what
| evidence is there that the FBI gives them a pass?
| Geezus-42 wrote:
| They seem to congrats around the Pacific Northwest.
|
| https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-
| library/abstracts/racist-a...
|
| https://www.kuow.org/stories/extremist-groups-popping-up-
| lef...
|
| https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/northwest-
| fr...
|
| https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-
| ne...
|
| https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/seattle-
| ne...
|
| https://www.splcenter.org/states/washington
| 1_player wrote:
| Probably it's the NSA dressed as Anonymous, but honestly who
| cares. Keep DDOSing, whoever is behind this.
| mrtweetyhack wrote:
| tartoran wrote:
| RT seems unaffected at the moment. Was this a temporary outage?
| ChildOfChaos wrote:
| Angostura wrote:
| Edgy!
| tgv wrote:
| The justification is that those sites are used to spread false
| information to the Russian public. By blocking access to them,
| they might start looking elsewhere, and won't be bombarded with
| the "denazification" brainwash attempts.
| GordonS wrote:
| Putin accusing Ukraine leadership of being nazis was...
| utterly bizarre (reminded me a bit of Trump). I mean of _all_
| that people to say such a thing?!
| leereeves wrote:
| I suspect that in Russia "Nazi" implies anti-Russian rather
| than anti-Semitic. The Germans killed about 20 million
| Russians in WW2, including about 15 million civilians.
|
| Perhaps those remarks sound bizarre to Western ears because
| we interpret them differently.
| mediumsmart wrote:
| probably. btw: 27 million Russians - 14 million of them
| civilians. German here. Nie wieder Krieg.
|
| https://www.avwsu.org/the-liberation-of-kiev/
| tgv wrote:
| I think that number includes Ukrainians. And I can't
| believe Putin didn't realize that that speech, his style
| justification, would be seen and judged all over the
| world.
| HWR_14 wrote:
| I'm sure Putin realized his speech would be seen and
| judged worldwide. I don't think he cares. He probably
| thinks he can just do whatever he wants and the world
| will accommodate him.
| kergonath wrote:
| > The Germans killed about 20 million Russians in WW2,
| including about 15 million civilians.
|
| A sizeable fraction of these "Russians" were actually
| Ukrainians.
| leereeves wrote:
| That's why I said "about 20 million" rather than 27
| million (which is the consensus for the Soviet Union as a
| whole).
|
| Exact numbers aren't important in this context, they
| simply illustrate that Russians have their own experience
| with Nazis that isn't what Americans usually think about
| when Americans think of Nazis.
|
| The important point, about which I'd love to hear from
| someone more familiar with Russian language and culture,
| is whether the word "Nazi" is used in the same way in
| Russia and America (when not referring to actual Nazis).
| genericacct wrote:
| He also accused them of being degenerates, which is funny
| considering he's a guy that wears foundation, has botox
| injections and facelifts..
| mediumsmart wrote:
| Azov battallion - google is your friend
| ch4s3 wrote:
| Those nuts were a bigger deal in 2014, and their
| political party only has a few seats. Russia is hardly in
| good standing with respect to right wing extremism.
| kergonath wrote:
| How are they in power in Ukraine? It's like saying that
| all Germans are communists because of the Red Army
| Faction.
| throwaway52483 wrote:
| Some details about this accusation are provided in this
| video (which appears to be a piece of Russian propaganda,
| with both interviewer and interviewee being writers for RT)
| starting about 4 minutes into the video:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkmdCaBECs&t=273s
| hotz wrote:
| Where is "elsewhere"? Western media pushes its own
| propaganda.
| FooBarBizBazz wrote:
| That was my first reaction too.
|
| There's a sibling post (by tgv) that makes a decent case for
| why this is actually good and meaningful, why it actually hurts
| the Russian propaganda effort, why maybe it'll affect Russian
| morale. I hope so.
|
| But I do understand your reaction.
|
| The West's response has felt so underwhelming that I have been
| _angry_ at its apparent impotence. All symbolic nonsense, it
| feels: "We're going to add Vladimir Putin's name to a list! So
| that, should he hypothetically want to change some numbers at
| one of our banks, he can't! That'll show him!"
|
| Like, what the hell is that? Block the man's bank accounts? No,
| if you weren't full of shit you would "find, fix, and finish"
| him. Talk talk talk.
|
| There was an interview on DW with the Polish politician
| Radoslaw Sikorski. DW was doing its usual hemming and hawing
| (which, let's be honest, I normally like; it tries not to go
| crazy in any way), but Mr. Sikorski simply minced no words:
| Germany gets about 1/3 of its gas from Russia and was going
| like "should we stop buying it? We don't know! It's such a hard
| decision!", while he, from Poland, which _depends on Russia for
| 70% of its gas_ , was already going "cut off all purchases of
| Russian gas; I don't care if it hurts". He wasn't _crude_ but
| he _was_ blunt, and clear, and incredibly refreshing. You
| immediately thought: This is the sort of leader we need.
| Forceful _and_ intelligent.
|
| _Poland_ -- fucking _Poland_ -- had donated Stingers to
| Ukraine. (Like, to its credit, Britain had shipped Stingers and
| Javelins.) _There!_ _That_ is at least _doing something_. And
| meanwhile Germany, which actually has a significant arms
| industry, is sitting on its ass and, I don 't know,
| investigating a steering committee.
|
| And even on the front that merely _is_ the shuffling of assets,
| the West is going, "I don't know? Should we shut off SWIFT? We
| still need some escalation options...". Dude, the man is
| rolling goddamn tanks around and killing people; cutting off
| SWIFT _doesn 't even rise to the level of proportionate
| response._ You need to have done it _yesterday_.
|
| Oh, and, if you're publicly saying "we can't do this because we
| need to keep some leverage", it's _exactly equivalent_ ,
| informationally, to you having _done_ it and _had no additional
| leverage_ ; it is a _public admission of impotence_. Putin has
| already priced this shit in.
|
| "You and what army?"
|
| I was reminded of that "physicals vs. virtuals" essay. Yeah, I
| know it was sort of an apologia for -- well, first, the Ottowa
| truckers, who may or may not actually be the evil right-wingers
| Trudeau says they are (now that Putin's using it, this word
| "de-Nazification" takes on a different ring, no?); and by
| association, maybe also an apologia for the actual right-wing
| grifters (Trump et al) who are trying to capitalize on them(?)
| -- but I still thought it captured something that's been
| bothering me for a long time. At some point _there is reality_
| , and you cannot approach life purely as a matter of public
| relations and the shuffling of assets.
|
| I found a video on YouTube of a column of Russian tanks rolling
| essentially-unopposed, single-file, on a bridge across the
| Dnieper. A few token potshots. _What the hell is this?_ Even
| _I_ know how you take out a motorcade: You ambush the lead and
| the tail vehicles so the rest are sandwiched, and then you deal
| with the rest as you 're able. (Or, it's been months, why are
| there no charges on the bridge? Is this incompetence or some
| level of strategy above my pay grade: "We'll need that bridge
| later"?) I guess they didn't have antitank weapons? Is that not
| itself a failure?
|
| And then I look at the public reaction in the West and it just
| sickens me. It's all "mourning" ( _What? The cause isn 't even
| lost yet!!_) and "oh my heart is breaking!". Ok, _yes_ , my
| heart _is_ fucking breaking because Europe is devouring itself
| again, but are we really so exhausted that all we can do is
| roll over with the blue-state version of "thoughts and
| prayers"?
|
| My hope is that the Western powers are doing more than is
| reported. That the apparent silence is just good opsec. That
| they simply want to avoid attribution, when facing a nuclear
| power.
|
| So, fine, sending a flood of HTTP requests might be better than
| nothing. But I better also start to see some high-level
| Russians end up mysteriously dead.
| rvz wrote:
| There you go. Putin and his forces are really shaking in their
| boots over those predictable DDoS attacks from Ukraine's
| Anonymous finest. /s
|
| It's as if that is all they can do, compared to Ukraine
| themselves getting hit by the same attack from Russia and
| throwing a malware wiper in the mix, propagating all over.
| Ukraine has nothing to fight with really in cyber defences.
|
| Might need to find a better way of attacking them rather than
| using predictable attacks like that which are easily mitigated
| against.
| [deleted]
| laurent123456 wrote:
| That's a show of support for Ukraine, which is something.
| agumonkey wrote:
| heh, snark aside, it might have ripple in the population.
| azalemeth wrote:
| They have provided a "user-friendly ddos tool" here [1] as
| discussed on reddit [2]. This does exactly what you'd expect it
| to do - it makes a large number of connections every second. It's
| completely and utterly dumb (and beware clicking the link!) but I
| imagine that such attempts sufficiently at scale are large enough
| to have a significant effect.
|
| Whether or not rt.com going down internationally materially
| affects Vladimir's plans or place in the world, however, is
| another question.
|
| [1] https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ [2]
| https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t18qm4/you_can_ddo...
| markvdb wrote:
| The mental health of so many people watching powerlessly is
| also worth something. This gives anyone a chance of doing
| something. It might help very little, but it _is_ at least a
| grain of sand in the machine of death.
|
| P.S. I'd encourage you to have a look at the js source code
| before opening this page. It seems to be relatively clean,
| readable and straightforward indeed.
| spansoa wrote:
| First time seeing a DDOS-Guard interstitial when visiting RT.com
|
| I thought these were defacements, but it's just your common DDOS
| playbook.
| tentacleuno wrote:
| The response for / has its Server header set to ddos-guard.
| Looks like they've moved to commercial solutions.
| otterley wrote:
| rt.com appears to be up and running in the U.S.
| TeeMassive wrote:
| People often underestimate the effect of propaganda. I know very
| high profile and highly intelligent people, think doctors and
| lawyers, who think it still is an act of self-defense against
| neo-nazis.
|
| I can understand the argument of NATO encircling Russia, but the
| invasion of a sovereign democracy can't be justified. Russia was
| on losing track because of Russia, not Ukraine.
| 52358 wrote:
| that's cute and all, but I don't think the invading forces get
| their orders from the defense ministry website
|
| how does this change anything? feels more symbolic than anything
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