[HN Gopher] C2PA Releases Spec of First Industry Standard for Co...
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C2PA Releases Spec of First Industry Standard for Content
Provenance
Author : wglb
Score : 12 points
Date : 2022-02-26 04:00 UTC (19 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (c2pa.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (c2pa.org)
| Pulcinella wrote:
| Is there a high level overview of how this is supposed to work?
| Is there anything to keep people from just lying? E.g. Oh this
| deepfake of a politician eating people is totally real. See the
| C2PA content provenance metadata says it was filmed by a BBC
| journalist's cellphone camera!
| wglb wrote:
| Tim provides a walkthrough:
| https://twitter.com/timbray/status/1486770745841577989
| infogulch wrote:
| > And that's all security measures can ever do, drive up the
| cost of bad behavior and reduce the domain in which it's
| accessible and economic. Looks to me like C2PA will do that.
| fxtentacle wrote:
| The camera creates a hash of the raw image data and signs that
| with a private key => If the camera firmware is secure, you
| can't fake this.
|
| Photoshop modifies the image => hash of the new image data is
| signed by your personal private key + signature includes camera
| hash => if someone steals your image, you can prove that your
| created the Jpeg based off your raw
|
| But yes, it doesn't protect against you using your camera to
| take a photo of your screen showing a deepfaked image. It might
| just make this more expensive to fake if it includes GPS into
| the signature.
| gruez wrote:
| >If the camera firmware is secure, you can't fake this.
|
| that's a big if.
|
| >Photoshop modifies the image => hash of the new image data
| is signed by your personal private key + signature includes
| camera hash => if someone steals your image, you can prove
| that your created the Jpeg based off your raw
|
| I don't get what this part is supposed to solve. Desktop
| editing software allow arbitrary manipulation of image, and
| there's basically no hope of some sort of TEE to keep the
| private key secure. Therefore it's useless for guaranteeing
| authenticity (ie. the image faithfully represents what was
| captured), and is really only useful for ensuring that a
| given publication endorses such image. In other words, it's
| basically gpg signing an image. That's not done today, but
| you can already verify whether an image comes from a
| publication by checking linking directly to their site (eg.
| if a given image is claimed to be from nytimes, you link to
| nytimes.com).
| jrochkind1 wrote:
| Can anyone explain to an HN "technical but not expert in the
| specific area" audience what this actually is? The press release
| is leaving me confused.
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