[HN Gopher] Using AI to bring children's drawings to life (2021)
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       Using AI to bring children's drawings to life (2021)
        
       Author : myth_drannon
       Score  : 75 points
       Date   : 2022-02-25 16:55 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | jrd79 wrote:
       | Where's the live online demo where I can upload something and
       | watch it work? Without that I have no confidence that the system
       | actually works.
       | 
       | [EDIT] Sorry, missed that!
        
         | tony_cannistra wrote:
         | It's linked in the article. https://sketch.metademolab.com/
        
       | jka wrote:
       | Ah yes, it's easy to forget that children's drawings aren't
       | already alive in their (and their parents) imagination, and that
       | we need to ship some personal (and in some ways, sensitive and
       | later nostalgic) data to a for-profit entity in order to achieve
       | that. Glad to have 'em around!
        
         | forgotmyoldacc wrote:
         | > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other
         | people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
           | jka wrote:
           | Duly noted, thank you.
           | 
           | Shallow dismissals can be an indication of a knee-jerk
           | reaction, potentially based on existing biases and/or life
           | experiences, as opposed to the kind of rational examination
           | that makes HN enjoyable.
           | 
           | The fact that they're disallowed on Hacker News changes the
           | tone of conversation here significantly, relative to other
           | social media; comments that stop and make the reader think --
           | preferably with supporting references and at-minimum-
           | plausible arguments -- are valued, and the resulting
           | perception of the community by participants is one of an
           | intelligent, well-mannered collegiate environment (with
           | healthy competition). In other words, the kind of
           | surroundings that have traditionally been associated with
           | long-standing centres of education.
           | 
           | Whether that perception is accurate (or desirable, honestly)
           | is, I'd argue, up for debate. As would be whether the use of
           | the term 'hacker' itself has diverged between its origins[1]
           | and the context in which it's used here.
           | 
           | No: it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction; this company appears to
           | be awful and given their repeated behaviour, this seems like
           | standard practice for them. I do not dismiss the hard work
           | and ingenuity of the people who developed the feature -- I'm
           | sure it was challenging and rewarding as they saw it -- but I
           | don't believe that "hard work", "impressive work" and "good
           | work" are always overlapping elements in a venn diagram.
           | 
           | [1] - http://tmrc.mit.edu/hackers-ref.html
        
       | elpakal wrote:
       | Nice, but I'm still not giving Meta anything especially my
       | child's art
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | digdugdirk wrote:
       | Is there a particular reason for an outsized percentage of the
       | activities being various forms of martial arts?
       | 
       | Is this a common existing training set for example?
        
         | myth_drannon wrote:
         | In the app itself it's only a small percentage.
        
       | jonshariat wrote:
       | I remember about 20 years ago in school, playing with a tool like
       | this. It also had something for the mouth that would make it look
       | like its talking.
       | 
       | Sometimes I feel like so little progress or so much progress is
       | made in the same day.
        
         | sockpuppet69 wrote:
        
       | hkt wrote:
       | If it was another company doing this I'd be in two minds as to
       | whether or not it was creepy. With Facebook doing it, I'm
       | convinced.
        
         | aunty_helen wrote:
         | Maybe they're just trying to buy some goodwill + people growing
         | up with positive memories of FB may be more likely to open an
         | account etc
        
         | hjessmith wrote:
         | If it makes you feel better, there's no data being collected
         | other than the images and annotation fixes (and that only
         | occurs if you click 'agree' on the consent page).
         | 
         | You also don't need to be signed in Facebook or anything to use
         | the demo- there's no way to link the uploaded images with
         | personal information about the artist/uploader.
        
         | bryanrasmussen wrote:
         | by analyzing your child's drawings we're able to determine with
         | 90% accuracy what content to push at them over the next decade
         | to turn them into a school shooter! Not that we would do that
         | unless somebody paid us.
        
         | micromacrofoot wrote:
         | Yeah it will be interesting to see how they use this to sell
         | adspace for kids.
        
       | can16358p wrote:
       | This is great.
       | 
       | If only Meta focused their power and talent to more projects like
       | this...
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | corysama wrote:
         | https://quill.art/ started as a rather unique team at Oculus.
         | But, yeah... Too artsy for FB. So, now it is independently
         | owned by the people who made it.
        
         | punnerud wrote:
         | Something like this?
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30443466
         | 
         | (Create a world only using your voice)
        
           | jsnodlin wrote:
        
       | JoeJonathan wrote:
       | While Meta is creepy, this is pretty awesome. I could imagine a
       | platform that allows you to animate a few characters &
       | backgrounds to make an animated storybook or cartoon.
        
       | tgv wrote:
       | It might look nice to adults, but kids really don't need to see a
       | machine outdo them. It might frustrate them, and give up.
        
         | JoeAltmaier wrote:
         | Hm. KidPix was a #1 bestseller for years. Kids loved it. Not
         | sure today's kids are harmed by seeing their creativity come to
         | life.
        
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