[HN Gopher] A list of lightweight websites without bloat
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A list of lightweight websites without bloat
Author : ushakov
Score : 104 points
Date : 2022-02-24 16:11 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| theandrewbailey wrote:
| See also 1MB Club: https://1mb.club/
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| 512k Club: https://512kb.club/
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| 250k Club: https://250kb.club/
| mark_mcnally_je wrote:
| goodwebsites.org
| minroot wrote:
| Wait until you see Twitter
| drcongo wrote:
| The first site from the list I tested performs absolutely
| horribly - https://gtmetrix.com/reports/levelnews.org/TgumkZOr/
| dmitrygr wrote:
| how is this missing 68k.news?
| cf100clunk wrote:
| Likewise it is missing https://www.cbc.ca/lite/ but there is a
| pull request for it.
| toss1 wrote:
| Wow - what a great find! Everyone should know of this - thanks!
| henning wrote:
| When I want to go to a website with quality content and no bloat,
| I check danluu.com.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Interesting irony that the page containing the list itself has a
| 2 Mb payload.
| john-doe wrote:
| Here you go, I hope you don't mind raw markdown:
| https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mdibaiee/awesome-lite-webs...
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| If only there was a way to serve HTML over HTTP :-(
| cnst wrote:
| Came to comment just that!
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| Isn't that ironic?
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| The "best" part is all this bloat doesn't even add any real
| extra functionality of value. Simply extra bullet points to the
| resumes of the folk who build all these sites.
| nmilo wrote:
| Not really, it's on github, they can't control that. I guess
| they could make a static github pages, but a github repo gives
| hosting and community contribution for free.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Well sure they can control it, by not hosting it on github.
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| There are plenty of other hosting options.
| rapnie wrote:
| Codeberg.org and Codeberg Pages comes to mind.
| rhizome wrote:
| Not having a cable modem also comes to mind. After that,
| personal webspace gets easy to find.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| If you want to serve a list of lightweight web services,
| is it too much to ask to do it in a way where the people
| who might benefit from those services can benefit from
| the list?
| ecmascript wrote:
| I want to shamelessly plug me and my friends podcast player
| https://podd.app/ (if you're into podcasts)
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| It doesn't have all the podcasts yet but it is small and very non
| bloat. There is no ads and no real framework so it should load
| fast.
| kevincox wrote:
| > It doesn't have all the podcasts yet but it is small and very
| non bloat
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| That is a weird statement because a podcast is just a URL.
| However I can't find anywhere on the site to add a URL (other
| than the Import which I assume is OMPL and would allow
| arbitrary URLs?)
| smukherjee19 wrote:
| Perhaps it's not well-known outside Japan but one (domestically?)
| famous website used to test slow internet here is the famous
| actor Abe (surname) Hiroshi's (first name) website:
| http://abehiroshi.la.coocan.jp/
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| I have no idea how it compares to the ones on the list here
| though.
| b215826 wrote:
| Very interesting website. I would never have imagined a 21st
| actor to have a webpage that looks like that of a professor
| from the mid 1990s. Hiroshi Abe is also an excellent actor --
| _Still Walking_ and _After the Storm_ (both directed by
| Hirokazu Koreeda) are two very enjoyable films I 've seen.
| nicbou wrote:
| Sometimes, a little CSS and JS go a long way to help the users
| achieve their goals. Spartan websites can be hard to read.
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| My own website uses more and more JavaScript, but it supports the
| main content. For example, a glossary bubble for German words, a
| table of content that highlights the current section, and
| calculators give you quicker answers.
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| A few of the websites listed there might be lightweight, but many
| seem to offer a poor user experience, even for just text on a
| page.
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| In my opinion, the best example of a lightweight website is the
| NHS. Yes, the page is lightweight, but the effort extends to the
| design and even the text on the page.
| lewispollard wrote:
| Bloat is one thing, and good content design another.
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| The NHS, and gov.uk, are some of the largest employers of
| UX/content designers in the UK, and recently it shows. A lot of
| it is considered the gold standard for content design;
| extremely clear, well presented information, where the most
| commonly relevant information is easily identified and
| straightforward.
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| Less bloat is, I guess, a side effect of good content design,
| rather than less bloat being the reason they're good sites.
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| Of course, it's easier to do good content design when there
| isn't any commercialism involved. As soon as you have to
| introduce ads, sponsors, paid-for content and unnecessary
| padding/pages/waffle in the name of views and clicks, you can
| say goodbye to good content design and low bloat.
| jrapdx3 wrote:
| Yes, a site can be too spare but that's far less prevalent
| among sites than behemoths that load so slowly. Question is can
| a site be attractive and yet be "lightweight" in terms of
| performance and resource usage?
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| It's educational to use a tool like Lighthouse and point it at
| supposed "good" or "bad" sites. I've done this a number of
| times. Amazing (well, maybe not) how poorly most sites score.
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| To be sure some of the lightweight sites performed pretty well,
| but in general sites are a long way from optimal. I know how
| much effort it takes to make sites that are interesting and
| performant. I've worked hard on my own sites to reach that high
| level so I know it can be done. As so often is the case it's
| more a matter of what one decides to leave out rather than
| including just one more cool thing.
| the__alchemist wrote:
| A little CSS and JS isn't the problem - a lot of it, or JS that
| performs excessive calculations is!
| pdenton wrote:
| A lightweight website doesn't have to be boring. My current
| project has a 1920x1080 picture which is only 29KiB with AVIF
| (and it'll further reduce in size when I crop it for smaller
| displays, using the picture element with media queries). There
| was 5,7KiB worth of SVG icons and I turned it into a 2KiB font.
| Not the best of savings, but still better (although correct
| sizing and positioning of font icons is somewhat difficult).
| codeptualize wrote:
| This list makes me realize how much I appreciate design. For all
| the ones I tried I much prefer the "heavy" versions.
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| It's probably different on a slow connection so it's good the
| lightweight versions exist, but for me downloading a few MB's is
| not at all a problem and totally worth it.
| kloch wrote:
| My ad-free/JavaScript-free IP address lookup: ip4.me / ip6.me
| zozbot234 wrote:
| I wonder how many Gemini sites are also served as HTTP(s) and
| could be directly added to a list like this. What's a tech stack
| like Gemini good for if the contents you host on it aren't
| broadly accessible using standard tech?
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