[HN Gopher] Show HN: Snipd - AI podcast player to highlight and ...
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       Show HN: Snipd - AI podcast player to highlight and take notes with
       transcripts
        
       Author : KevinBenSmith
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2022-02-24 13:52 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.snipd.com)
        
       | syserror wrote:
       | Wow! I'm working on something exactly like this as a personal
       | project!
       | 
       | I have a few questions about how you're doing time segmentation.
       | 
       | Are you using a purely text based approach? as in your pipeline
       | looks like STT -> some BERT based model for segmentation/summary?
       | 
       | or are you using a text + audio model to get extra signal?
       | 
       | Have you found any cool tricks (pre-processing/heuristics) that
       | really improved your approach?
       | 
       | How are you dealing with ad placement insertion that can have
       | different times for different users? For example user A might
       | have a 30 second ad inserted and user B might have two ads
       | inserted for a total of 60 seconds. That would shift all your
       | times at a user specific level. Or are you serving the podcasts
       | from your own server?
       | 
       | My project goal is slightly different than yours in that my goal
       | is almost entirely automatically skipping ads until I am able to
       | just pay a subscription fee to the podcasters to support their
       | content.
       | 
       | Awesome app! Super exciting to see folks working on this
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | Cool! That's great. I think there's so much still to do in the
         | space of AI for spoken audio. Be it podcasts, audio books,
         | video calls or similar. So definitely keep at it. I hope you
         | understand that I can't reveal all of our tricks. But what I
         | can say is that it definitely helped us to think about what we
         | as humans use as input for our processing in these situations.
         | So it's not just text. The audio has value as well. To see this
         | you can do a small experiment by just looking at the transcript
         | manually and then trying to find optimal segmentation points.
         | It's difficult. Dynamic ad insertion is also still a challenge
         | for us. We'd like to develop a technical solution for it but
         | haven't found the time to tackle it yet.
        
       | causi wrote:
       | Could this be extended to include podcast ad-skipping? Being able
       | to define A-B points and adding that to a blocklist would be
       | amazing. I have several podcasts I've essentially stopped
       | listening to because they're so consumed by ads.
        
         | paulryanrogers wrote:
         | There are already tools for that. Still, might I suggest just
         | skipping manually yourself or paying for ad free access?
         | Creators need to be reimbursed for their efforts, otherwise
         | we'll only be left with those rich enough to do it free or
         | increasingly subtle 'native' ads.
         | 
         | (Full disclosure, I work for a service that helps monitize ad
         | free feeds. Opinions are my own, don't reflect my employer, and
         | obviously I'm biased.)
        
           | KevinBenSmith wrote:
           | I completely get that. See my comment above why we decided
           | against having a dedicated feature for this. I'm hoping that
           | tipping (or similar forms) will get more popular in the
           | future and be supported by more podcast creators in their RSS
           | feed.
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | We thought about that and actually decided against a dedicated
         | feature doing exactly this. The reason being that we do not
         | want to hurt podcaster's ability to monetize their content.
         | That being said, with the automatically generated chapters in
         | our app, you do already get a good sense of where the ads are.
         | 
         | I personally am hoping that some of the podcasting 2.0 features
         | will make it easy for listeners to tip podcasters directly.
         | Once we have that, we could implement an ad-skipping feature
         | which is then only activated for listeners who have tipped the
         | podcast creator.
        
           | jfengel wrote:
           | I had not heard about that, but I'm glad for it. I listen to
           | a lot of podcasts, and I try to throw money at them, in a
           | somewhat haphazard way. I'd do it a lot more consistently if
           | I could just push a button in the app.
           | 
           | Being able to skip the ads would be a nice bonus, though I'll
           | admit that I use the existing features to skip ad breaks
           | extensively. (I still end up hearing enough that I'm familiar
           | with the products, and even try to patronize them. In fact, I
           | need some new socks...)
        
             | KevinBenSmith wrote:
             | Haha, I know what you mean. I think almost everyone skips
             | the ads to a certain extent. But you still end up hearing
             | about them at some point. Some of my favorite podcasts are
             | Lex Fridman, Tim Ferris and Andrew Huberman. So there is no
             | way around hearing some "Athletic Greens" ads. And after a
             | while, I actually bought some :D
             | 
             | Great to hear your feedback regarding tipping. Maybe we
             | should prioritize this feature.
        
               | jfengel wrote:
               | I'll admit, I'm very fond of PocketCasts, so it'll take
               | rather a lot to get me to switch. But tipping is a
               | feature I'd consider it for.
        
               | KevinBenSmith wrote:
               | Ok, I added a vote to this feature for you in our
               | internal feature request tracking ;) What do you love
               | about PocketCasts the most?
        
         | lcfcjs wrote:
        
       | sunsetMurk wrote:
       | neat! I'm going to try it. I wonder if I can import my
       | subscriptions from Castro? And, I wonder if there is anything
       | similar to the queue feature to always have a custom-curated list
       | of fresh episodes to listen to.
       | 
       | My only feedback before downloading... the video demo[1]
       | (ironically for a podcast app>) has an unpleasant voiceover, the
       | woman needs a drink of water! Content-wise it's great but I was
       | distracted by the almost ASMR-like experience of feeling like she
       | was very close to my ear, and I didn't like it.
       | 
       | 1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzPekGpC4uw
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | Haha, note-taken. This was our first public video and we just
         | recorded it ourselves. Lot of potential for improvement :D
         | 
         | Regarding your questions: Yes, you can import your
         | subscriptions from Castro via OPML. We have a How-To in the app
         | for how to do this specifically for Castro.
         | 
         | The queue & inbox system is still missing, but very high on our
         | roadmap. We're actually working on the queue right now. With
         | the inbox, our plan is to go in a similar direction as Castro
         | has done it.
         | 
         | Let me know if you have any more thoughts on the queue/inbox
         | system.
        
       | derwiki wrote:
       | Name sounds familiar, wasn't there a YC company around 2008 with
       | this name?
       | 
       | Edit: https://techcrunch.com/2008/10/30/y-combinators-snipd-
       | launch...
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | Yes, there was! And there are even some similarities. My
         | understanding is that they focused on collecting valuable pages
         | from the web. In comparison, we are focused on collecting
         | valuable moments from podcasts :)
        
       | codq wrote:
       | Been using it for a while, it's very cool.
       | 
       | I'd love an Apple Watch app, as a lot of my post-fatherhood
       | podcast time is on the rare occasions I'm able to get out for a
       | run.
       | 
       | But in general, Snipd takes a good crack at solving a major
       | problem--annotating and taking notes while listening to a podcast
       | on-the-go. I'm a fan!
        
         | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
         | Can explain how it works from a user perspective? The website
         | is slim on details. It just has one sentence explaining what it
         | does. I don't want to install it to find out.
         | 
         | EDIT: I guess the Apple App Store description has the info I
         | wanted
        
           | KevinBenSmith wrote:
           | Yes, we definitely need to add more info on the homepage. The
           | best way to get an overview of how it works & feels like as a
           | user is this youtube video here, which we created for our PH
           | launch today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzPekGpC4uw
           | 
           | Let me know if you have any specific questions. Happy to
           | answer :)
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | Cool! Nice to hear that you're already using it :) I'll add
         | your vote to the apple watch app request. We do have it on the
         | longer term roadmap. But given that we are still early, we are
         | trying to focus our energy as much as possible on the mobile
         | experience to make sure we get that part right before we branch
         | out. After that, we'd like to build a car, smart watch and web-
         | app version (not necessarily in that order).
        
       | leobg wrote:
       | Awesome.
       | 
       | Any plans to go beyond podcasts? I'd like to import any EPUB, PDF
       | or TXT document, have it read to me by text-to-speech, and then
       | have all the features you currently have for podcasts (i.e.
       | reading along on the screen, one-tap highlights, etc.).
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | Given how early we still are we first want to focus on podcasts
         | and make sure we nail the functionality & experience. In the
         | future, we then want to enable users to also upload their own
         | audio content (e.g. an audio book) and benefit from all of the
         | same features.
         | 
         | For now, we haven't really thought about enabling text mediums
         | and going the other way around (text to speech instead of
         | speech to text). You could however check out the Matter app.
         | Not sure whether you can upload your own pdfs, but you can do
         | text-to-speech for blog posts, including highlighting. They
         | also have a Readwise integration like us.
        
           | leobg wrote:
           | Gotcha. No, if you have plans to focus on audio, then, by all
           | means, don't let yourself get sidetracked. For text content,
           | I already am using Voice Dream Reader, which, in my mind, is
           | the best there is. Being able to study both text and audio
           | content in the same app and with the same workflow for
           | highlights would just be the icing on the cake.
           | 
           | And I really like your one-tap highlight functionality (or
           | triple clicking the headphone buttons). Very useful when
           | driving or when the phone is tucked away and you're listening
           | via headphones.
        
             | KevinBenSmith wrote:
             | Thx! With the highlighting, one of our main goals is to
             | make it as easy as possible. At least for me personally, if
             | it's not easy to do, I won't do it. Mainly because I am
             | often on the go when listening to podcasts. And thx to AI,
             | this is now much more possible.
        
               | leobg wrote:
               | Exactly. For me, if it's not easy to record a highlight,
               | I will stop reading in that situation for fear of missing
               | something important that I'd want to get back to later.
               | Hence one tap highlighting lets me "read" where I
               | normally couldn't.
        
       | jono_wilson wrote:
       | This looks really cool! Can't wait to try it when I'm listening
       | to podcasts on my walk; are you using a paid API for the
       | transcript or are you using an open source solution yourselves?
        
         | ferdinand_snipd wrote:
         | Thanks! Let us know how you like it! We don't use any paid APIs
         | for the AI. Everything is in-house ;)
        
       | agentdrtran wrote:
       | any word on snipping coming to private RSS feeds? all of my most
       | listened to pods are private
        
         | KevinBenSmith wrote:
         | We don't have a clear date yet when we will tackle it, but it
         | will definitely come. And the more users request it, the sooner
         | it will come. So I'll add your vot to this request ;) Are your
         | private feeds all podcasts or also some other content?
        
       | MattyMatt wrote:
       | Looks awesome! As a podcast aficionado I will definitely give it
       | a try! Well done :-)
        
         | ferdinand_snipd wrote:
         | Thanks! Would be great to hear how you like it!
        
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