[HN Gopher] Mozilla Webmaker
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Mozilla Webmaker
Author : throwoutway
Score : 52 points
Date : 2022-02-19 15:34 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (foundation.mozilla.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (foundation.mozilla.org)
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| Remembered this more as a Mozilla initiative promoting 'maker'
| activities and community calls, hackathons here and there etc.
|
| And stuff revolving not around the logo see in that archived page
| but this Thimble one
| https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/introducing_thimble/
|
| Got a large Thimble webmaker sticker in the mail once randomly
| and I wasn't even sure why/how hehe
| flas9sd wrote:
| for the android app, precondition is a login, so I'm unable to
| review it. here are some headlines to get an idea:
| http://mozilla.github.io/webmaker-curriculum/
|
| What is used nowadays in kids (8 - 12) web literacy courses?
| freediver wrote:
| What is the simplest, user-friendly, open-source, web maker these
| days?
| haunter wrote:
| I know the answer to two of the categories, not to the open
| source https://elementor.com/
| [deleted]
| samwillis wrote:
| I think the more interesting thing there is the 'Artifacts' home
| page [0] and the fact they are archiving these past experiments.
| Despite its faults its good that Mozilla is cataloging these,
| they could easily be left to just disappear from existence.
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| 0: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/artifacts/
| eternityforest wrote:
| Another abandoned project from back when Mozilla still liked
| doing projects.
| kunagi7 wrote:
| Looks like both Core and Android versions were abandoned back
| in 2016. Oddly enough, the web version was abandoned in 2018.
| Still, all versions seem to be React based.
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| The sole change to the website in 2018 was changing the
| Twitter URL in the footer away from a dead account. Not
| really abandoned any later, just someone sent a cleanup to a
| deprecated site.
| zagrebian wrote:
| Mozilla still likes doing projects:
| https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/
| eternityforest wrote:
| Ok, it's a bit of an exaggeration, they definitely still do
| projects, but there's seems to be a real shift in focus now.
|
| Most of what they do now is stripped down privacy focused
| versions of existing stuff rather than innovation like they
| had in the FlyWeb days.
| qualudeheart wrote:
| Perhaps a web3 version web3maker could be implemented?
| padraic7a wrote:
| I hope not. Mozilla are having a hard time of it lately but I
| would really worry that they've lost their way if they touch
| the steaming pile of crypto scamware shit that is web3.
| lukifer wrote:
| So-called "web3" is still early-stage and amorphously
| defined, born of the tensions between web1 (a user-sovereign
| Commons, but lacking identity and value transfer) and Web 2.0
| (payments and identity, at the cost of surveillance,
| enclosure of social Commons, and Metcalfe-monopoly Platform
| Capitalism).
|
| I understand the pushback against the "crypto grift", and as
| a critique of Actually Existing Crypto-Anarchist Political
| Economy, I completely agree. But the race for the future is
| happening with or without us. We can either cede the
| territory to the bad economics (and worse ethics) of
| Austrian-school neo-goldbugs; or, we can get involved and
| leverage the tools towards democratic principles, human
| values, regenerative ecology, and genuine disruption of
| unproductive rent-seeking.
|
| I'd view anything pitching itself as an investment with
| extreme suspicion. (And by all means: carbon-tax or fully
| outlaw "Proof of Work" mining.) But there are countless
| projects that are truly decentralized, not profit-oriented,
| and community-first/tech-second: Panvala, Breadchain,
| CommonsStack, Green Pill Party, Basis Project,
| /r/CryptoLeftists, lots more. By all means, be skeptical,
| call out moral hazards and perverse incentives, that's all to
| the good. But let's not ignore the huge opportunity to
| disintermediate private Capital (old and new), and in the
| spirit of copyleft/FOSS, to "lock open" our digital and
| economic infrastructure.
| Teever wrote:
| I genuinely think that this post was written by something
| like opengpt-3.
| enos_feedler wrote:
| When you say unproductive rent-seeking? Who are you calling
| out here and what makes it unproductive? rent collecting is
| a perfectly reasonable way to capture value.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| tasha0663 wrote:
| Why would web3 not have mobile sites like web[?] does? The
| source lives in decentralized version control. This is as web3
| as it could get without tacking some kind of pointless
| blockchain grift onto it.
| speedgoose wrote:
| I'm not sure how web semantic would save the project.
| beepbooptheory wrote:
| What things would need to be implemented in order for it to be
| a web3maker?
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