[HN Gopher] Quordle: Four Wordles in One
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Quordle: Four Wordles in One
Author : a-bit-of-code
Score : 251 points
Date : 2022-02-17 14:24 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.quordle.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.quordle.com)
| VikingCoder wrote:
| Maybe this takes the fun out of it, but with Quordle, I've had
| great success with:
|
| TUBES
|
| FLING
|
| CHAMP
|
| WORDY
|
| With those, I've always completed all four...
| tshaddox wrote:
| I have less fun with that sort of strategy (I like hard mode in
| Wordle). But in this variant I find it exceedingly difficult if
| I _don 't_ employ this sort of strategy.
| gary_chambers wrote:
| I see you played the same meta-game that I did. It took me a
| few tries, but I ended up with: WHISK, FRONT, GLADE, BUMPY.
|
| Probably not in the spirit of the game, but once you have 20
| distinct letters, it is normally quite easy to find the
| solution.
| mwigdahl wrote:
| Mine are SHIRT, WOMEN, BLACK, PUDGY. I like that order as it
| hits most of the high-frequency letters up front to enable
| the odd early snipe.
| CSMastermind wrote:
| Well if we're sharing mine are: SPINE, WORLD, THUMB, and
| JACKY.
| core-utility wrote:
| This was surprisingly more achievable than I thought it would be,
| and provides a nice challenge with some strategy.
| willis936 wrote:
| After a few practices to get me out of hard-mode-wordle mode I
| have found that spending the first 4 guesses on an exhaustive
| search of letters (picking words with letters in common
| positions) seems to be universally the best opening. Pursuing
| individual words before 3 guesses is not optimal.
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| My favorite variant yet.
| throwawaynay wrote:
| just when I thought we couldn't imagine more wordle variants!nice
| :D
| GoodJokes wrote:
| calvinmorrison wrote:
| As many of you I took a jab at a wordle solver. That wasn't so
| hard.
|
| Then I said, how can I guarantee as a human, I win, in 6 moves
| almost 100% of the time?
|
| "Quick Brown Fox", as in, use as many possible letters in the
| alphabet, comprised of 5 letter words, given that we have only 5
| words to play with. That gives us 25 characters to use.
|
| I came up with
|
| BLOCK VENTS JUMPY DWARF GHAZI
|
| this leaves out Q and X, which is fine. Using this as a template
| basically boils Wordle down to a anagram game, so kind of defeats
| the purpose.
|
| But in this case, i was able to resolve all 4 at one time using
| my above combination. I guessed, correctly all 4 with PLUMB GLEAN
| VALID IMPLY. I then realized, you get even more chances on
| Quordle, but I didn't need it!
| DungZeekFu wrote:
| True, if you are only shooting to solve it in 9 then it can be
| easy with the right strategy. But many in our friend group are
| no longer satisfied with 9 and want 7 or fewer guesses :)
| david_allison wrote:
| Doesn't work effectively for Quordle.
|
| You have 9 guesses. This takes up 5 of them, then you need to
| be correct for each of the 4 words.
| imglorp wrote:
| 4,6,7,9
| oliwary wrote:
| Fun!
|
| I made one with a 5x5 square of letters, containing five words
| down and five across: https://squareword.org/
|
| A bit like a combination of crosswords and Wordle, as vertical
| words can be used for additional clues.
| tfvlrue wrote:
| I've been playing this for a couple weeks now and have really
| enjoyed it. Well done!
| oliwary wrote:
| Thank you! I am very glad you are enjoying it.
| NAHWheatCracker wrote:
| This is really neat and polished!
| te wrote:
| I think this (squareword) would be even more fun with a toggle
| button to transpose the square.
| danparsonson wrote:
| Really nice but... surely 'Squardle'? :-)
| madcaptenor wrote:
| There was already a Squardle: https://fubargames.se/squardle/
| danparsonson wrote:
| Ah well there we go; wow that one is confusing...
|
| edit: ...but interesting!
| MattRix wrote:
| Yeah squardle is convoluted but feels surprisingly
| satisfying to solve.
| madcaptenor wrote:
| It took me a few tries to get it but I'm pretty into it
| now.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Nice, but seems to use a fairly restrictive word list compared
| to other games; might make it more attractive to some people as
| I have friends who say that "ZA" sums up everything wrong with
| scrabble in one word...
| oliwary wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback! Do you mean in the square itself or
| the possible guess words? Tried to calibrate the square
| itself for a good balance between challenge and reasonably
| common words.
| layer8 wrote:
| Not the GP, but "April" isn't in the word list.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Many (most?) word games forbid any words that are always
| capitalized. As either a month or a first name, April is
| capitalized.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Possible guess words. "unlid" and "mirly" are (possibly
| over-optimized) good second guesses in wordle.
| oliwary wrote:
| That is fair! I feel like those should definitely be
| allowed. I am using a wordlist based on this:
| http://wordlist.aspell.net/12dicts-readme/ which is
| public domain and has about 6k 5-letter words, compared
| to the Wordles 12k. If anybody knows any other good
| royalty free wordlists I would definitely be interested.
| :)
| aidenn0 wrote:
| https://github.com/elasticdog/yawl is fairly standard for
| word-games.
|
| [edit]
|
| Seems possible that wordle uses it given the 12k number:
| grep '^.....$' word.list|wc -l 12036
| oliwary wrote:
| Thank you so much aidenn0! This looks great, will
| integrate it in the next update.
| [deleted]
| hexciple wrote:
| Been playing this one for a while, and I love it. I know it
| won't always line up this way, but the other day I was able to
| fill in 4 remaining words with 3 guesses and finished with a
| score of 8, felt great.
| sand500 wrote:
| Heh, I got this as a interview question years ago.
|
| Given a list of words, see if there exists a valid 5x5 square
| of words.
| saurik wrote:
| This forces you to type extremely slowly to the point where it
| feels super awkward :(.
| oliwary wrote:
| Hmm odd! Thanks for the feedback. I think it may be related
| to the material ripple effect on the keys. Pushed an update
| now that hopefully fixes it.
| calrueb wrote:
| Going to echo all the other positive comments. This is the most
| fun variation I have played. On my first try I failed to complete
| it, then went and did a practice round with some smarter initial
| word choices and won (barely!)
| lupire wrote:
| Needs work to fit above the fold on small screens. Show fewer
| rows of guesses, especially early.
| saurik wrote:
| Just wait until you try Octordle!
|
| https://octordle.com/
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| interesting. but its a pain to scroll. I wish this went wide
| screen.
| CSMastermind wrote:
| That was actually really fun. I wonder at what point it stops
| scaling.
|
| My feeling is that as long as I get 4 + number of boards
| guesses I'll always be able to solve it but maybe I'm being
| overly optimistic.
| emp_ wrote:
| 16 :) http://www.sedecordle.com/?mode=daily
| neogodless wrote:
| Guessed in 2,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19
| mpettitt wrote:
| The keyboard only shows the top four boards though!
| fullshark wrote:
| I thought this was a troll game until I played it and enjoyed it
| thoroughly! Good job.
| tobr wrote:
| Phew, 7/9/4/5. Got the last one with a pretty wild guess at the
| end. This was the most fun Wordle variation I've come across so
| far, will definitely come back to play tomorrow.
| DungZeekFu wrote:
| Hi everyone I am the creator of Quordle and I am glad that people
| are enjoying playing it :)
|
| I also appreciate all the feedback and I am looking to improve
| the experience when playing on desktop!
|
| You can follow the @quordle Twitter for updates as well!
| akersten wrote:
| It's really cool! one small request: Can you switch the colors
| for "guessed, not in word" and "not guessed yet" letters on the
| keyboard? It's opposite from the original and makes it
| confusing.
| DungZeekFu wrote:
| I am working on tweaking the keyboard to be more clear so
| stay tuned for updates very soon around this!
| dkonofalski wrote:
| If you need CSS help or help with the responsive design, let me
| know! I'd be happy to help. Switched from Wordle after NYT to
| Quordle and definitely prefer the challenge of Quordle.
| willis936 wrote:
| I'm getting some weird words in practice such as "FETID" and
| "SHALT". Is it reasonable to increase the cutoff of word usage
| for the dictionary?
| homonculus1 wrote:
| Those are great words
| willis936 wrote:
| What about POESY?
| altairprime wrote:
| I love this. Thank you for this.
| autoexec wrote:
| Getting rid of the google tracker would be nice. I was
| disappointed to see the New York Times added one to the
| original game after they moved it.
| fourseventy wrote:
| Use adblock?
| autoexec wrote:
| I do, which is how I immediately noticed it was there when
| I went to the site. I'm just not a big fan of the "I've got
| mine so screw everyone else" mentality and I'm happy to
| suggest making simple changes that will improve things for
| others.
| wil93 wrote:
| One suggestion: could you put the four games side-by-side when
| the horizontal space allows it?
|
| With a 1792px width (Macbook Pro 16) I have to scroll
| vertically to see all the games while there is plenty of unused
| horizontal space
| gdfgjhs wrote:
| Yeah I came here to say same thing. I find it hard to
| concentrate when bottom two boards are cutoff.
| loudmax wrote:
| I agree. If there's empty space on the screen, you shouldn't
| need to scroll.
|
| But after a practice round, I didn't need to scroll anyway
| because I got today's puzzle in 3/4/5/7, so whoohoo!
| djrobstep wrote:
| Hey my partner plays a lot of quordle and had the following
| feedback:
|
| Three things:
|
| 1. Love it! Thank you!
|
| 2. Could there be a better contrast between keyboard letters
| and the game board? They're a bit too similar. I use dark mode,
| but it seems there is the same lack of definition in light mode
| as well.
|
| 3. Is there any way the whole game could be visible on mobile
| (e.g. iPhone12 Max) so the last few rows of the game board
| don't need to be scrolled?
| sveno wrote:
| This is really neat. That's all I wanted to say. Thank you for
| building it.
| cjkarr wrote:
| Amazing work. I'll be adding it to my daily routine.
| TuringNYC wrote:
| Which word dictionary did you use? I tried coding my own but
| was surprised as how messy all the dictionaries are.
| aardshark wrote:
| First, loving this version, it's just the right amount of
| difficulty. It's slowly overtaking Wordle in my group.
|
| Are the colors in dark mode different to Wordle? I find it
| harder to remember which gray means unguessed and which means
| no matches.
|
| The keyboard doesn't display correctly with split colors on
| Firefox Android, but the numbers at the end do.
|
| Lastly, the share is too large. I tend to just cut off the
| actual boards and just post the numbers.
| tshaddox wrote:
| I like this one. I've been playing it a lot the last few days. Is
| it just me, or is it immensely more difficult than Wordle? I
| think I only get all 4 correct maybe 25% of the time.
| zto wrote:
| It would be wonderful if this style of game had the option to
| render all the letters in lowercase, my brain just seems to treat
| different case symbols as representing different letters.
| cableshaft wrote:
| Of all the variants I've come across so far, I think this one has
| the most staying power. I think I might prefer it to the
| original.
|
| I do kind of wish you got one more guess, though, especially if
| you get stuck, like I did today, having 4 Greens but 5
| possibilities for the final letter.
| yhoneycomb wrote:
| I also which it shared it simply as
|
| Daily Quordle #22
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| 7 6
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| 9 4
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| vs.
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| Daily Quordle #23
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| 7 6
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| 9 4 quordle.com
|
|
| Maybe you could add a link if you want to expand to the second
| one. But it's just too long for sharing.
| DungZeekFu wrote:
| That's an interesting idea! It could be cool to have a share
| link that could rebuild the emoji grid.
| altairprime wrote:
| 4 states x 5 letters x 9 guesses is only 180 possible
| stoplight strings (of green/yellow/gray/black), if I'm
| doing my math right? So you could just pick 180 emoji and
| use four of them :)
| reissbaker wrote:
| I thought about this as well, but sadly, last I checked
| some decently popular apps (Twitter, WhatsApp, some
| others) don't support emojis in URL paths, only in domain
| names. So the emoji technique could work for message
| threads in some apps, but it would look pretty strange in
| others.
|
| (I've been helping @DungZeekFu a bit with Quordle and am
| curious for any ideas around this though!)
| sveno wrote:
| I could see something like this beating out the original.
| Wordle has to be 1x/day because there are only a couple
| thousand common 5-letter words (around 2300, if I recall
| correctly). It would turn repetitive. This game has O(N^4)
| combinations, so it can be played over and over.
| MattRix wrote:
| I agree that Quordle is compelling but not sure I see your
| argument for how Wordle would get repetitive. 2300 is six
| years worth of words. They could shuffle the word list every
| 4 years and it'd be fine.
|
| I think a big part of what makes Wordle compelling is the
| ritualistic daily nature so not seeing how this would beat it
| out.
| treve wrote:
| If you sometimes fail, I feel the balance (for you) is right =)
| brk wrote:
| Would be cool to rollover the unused guesses from the solved
| ones to the remaining ones.
| cableshaft wrote:
| BTW, I should say I have gotten it 2 out of the 3 times I've
| played it so far, so it's _probably_ enough guesses, just today
| I really wished there was one more.
| layer8 wrote:
| The number of guesses are fine IMO. While I needed one more
| guess, I also had made an unnecessary guess by mistake.
| Vaskerville wrote:
| Why stop at four?
| missedthecue wrote:
| They didnt!
|
| https://octordle.com/
| manwe150 wrote:
| Next up: 10K wordle. You have unlimited guesses and must avoid
| guessing any word not in the final list of 10000 solution
| words. Your score is the number of right guesses before you
| miss a guess.
| NextHendrix wrote:
| I'd like to see a cross between this and Absurdle
| jermeh wrote:
| I like this one quite a bit. I find Wordle fun, but a bit plain
| sometimes. Quordle really makes me think out of the box to
| optimize across the grids.
|
| side note: I've gotten most of them, but today's ruined my
| streak.
| jetbooster wrote:
| I feel like todays words were designed specifically to ruin the
| day of the 'ROATE' users
| Packofbezens wrote:
| Agree, 'STARE' is my go-to in regular wordle and this one
| stumped me at first. Still managed a 4/5/7/6 solve :)
| kodablah wrote:
| This is getting close to by idea of "Borgle = Boggle + Wordle".
|
| Basically the idea is there is a boggle board generated and all
| N-letter word paths found. The paths are made available to click
| on (there are a few UI approaches to this). Once a path is
| selected you enter Wordle mode for that path. Every guess must
| still be a real word, but the neat part is if you even nail a
| single letter, it appears on the Boggle board. And that letter
| immediately appears as solved on any other path that overlaps it.
| You can jump/revisit paths at any time.
|
| Goal is to complete the board (unsure if there will be guess
| limit, letters that are not on any path of course are
| automatically visible/correct on game start). The completion
| sharing will be a matrix of numbers instead of colors showing how
| many guesses of that space across any path were made until the
| first right letter was achieved. Boggle board size configurable
| as is the min/max word letters (5x5 w/ only 5-letter words by
| default).
|
| There are some neat strategies here of path choice/switching and
| guessing wrong words intentionally in overlapping paths. Will dev
| if I ever get the time, but feel free to steal the idea and make
| it.
| AtlasBarfed wrote:
| This is the best one so far!
|
| This is like when I discovered calcudoku 12x12s and now sudokus
| are dumb and boring. Just a lot better.
|
| May the NYT acquire you for the level-up option.
| mattcantstop wrote:
| What I have loved about this iteration of the idea is that I
| often don't solve the problem. That makes it more fun to me. I
| like the difficult level.
| amptorn wrote:
| This feels like a cheap ripoff of Dordle:
| https://zaratustra.itch.io/dordle
|
| If you're going to put your own spin on Wordle, have at it, many
| others have, but at least demonstrate some creativity.
| dkonofalski wrote:
| Are you sure Dordle came out first? It's only a few weeks old,
| according to your link.
| amptorn wrote:
| Yes? Per the "History of Quordle":
| https://www.quordle.com/#?overlay=tutorial
|
| > It all started on January 29, 2022 when I saw an article
| mentioning Dordle by Guilherme S. Tows and we all started
| playing it as a group. It was a blast to play something more
| difficult than Wordle
| dkonofalski wrote:
| Ahhh. So 2 words instead of 4. You're going to be really
| disappointed by Octordle and Septurdle, then.
| xmprt wrote:
| This game is pretty cool but it doesn't play well on desktops
| because you have to scroll to see all four words. In my opinion
| it would be better to have all four side by side instead of
| trying to fit a mobile design for desktop websites.
| jonny_eh wrote:
| Should use a responsive layout.
| globular-toast wrote:
| I zoomed out.
| legohead wrote:
| Suggestion: I play and share Dordles via screenshots. I'd like to
| do the same with this but I don't want to use two screenshots
| (have to scroll down). Can you have an option to sit these side
| by side?
| layer8 wrote:
| Or a "hard mode" where the four words are multiplexed. :)
| przefur wrote:
| A nice implementation, I really enjoy the practice tab. As many
| suggested already, it plays poorly on desktops/laptops, I have to
| scroll to see all four words, would be nice to see horizontally
| arranged windows.
| treebeard24 wrote:
| gundmc wrote:
| Neat, but I think the keyboard coloring could use tweaking. It
| wasn't immediately obvious to me which were unguessed letters and
| which were guessed but unmatched.
| not2b wrote:
| I was so close, solved three and was down to two choices for the
| fourth (I knew four letters but there were two words and I
| guessed the wrong one).
|
| I used grep to help with the searching.
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