[HN Gopher] A Fundamental Theory to Model the Mind (2014)
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       A Fundamental Theory to Model the Mind (2014)
        
       Author : macawfish
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-02-16 03:52 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | jmsykes wrote:
       | Super interesting take. There is a similar discussion about Self-
       | Imposed Criticality in dynamic systems such as personal networks,
       | that I've found to be very revealing about the nature of
       | disintegrating relational connections. Really enjoyed this read!
       | Thanks for posting.
        
         | macawfish wrote:
         | Sounds fascinating, do you have some links for me?
        
           | jmsykes wrote:
           | Looking for some links now! Came across this concept about 18
           | months ago in a textbook called Social Network Analysis for
           | Startups.
           | 
           | From my notes:
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           | On Conflict Propagation:
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           | * Conflict between B and C forces A to take sides.
           | 
           | * If A sides with B, then conflict between A and C forces D
           | to take sides.
           | 
           | * If D sides with A instead of C, it keep conflict from
           | arising in the rest of the network, but if D sides with A it
           | will force E to take sides and so on.
           | 
           | * Having more ties increases an agent's probability of
           | forming even more ties, but it also increases the probability
           | that a conflict between two agents will spread throughout the
           | network, as their decision to side on any side of the
           | conflict can spiral downward.
           | 
           | * So just as there is a critical mass that causes tie density
           | to grow exponentially, there is also a critical mass value on
           | the upper end of density (self-organized criticality) that
           | prevents it from growing further because the increased
           | density leads to greater conflicts that bring the density
           | back down.
           | 
           | * Similarly, the more dense a forest is, the greater the
           | catastrophe. This is why permitting smaller fires down-
           | regulates the density of the forest to insure that most fires
           | are well contained.
        
             | macawfish wrote:
             | This is serious stuff, thanks for sharing.
             | 
             | I've thought about this in my own life just seeing the the
             | pressures on people who work to maintain connections across
             | fractured social groups, who work to cultivate community.
             | It can be very hard on people.
             | 
             | Also reminds me of this quote by Andrey Krutskikh, a
             | Kremlin cybersecurity expert:
             | 
             | > _You think we are living in 2016. No, we are living in
             | 1948. And do you know why? Because in 1949, the Soviet
             | Union had its first atomic bomb test. And if until that
             | moment, the Soviet Union was trying to reach agreement with
             | [President Harry] Truman to ban nuclear weapons, and the
             | Americans were not taking us seriously, in 1949 everything
             | changed and they started talking to us on an equal footing.
             | I'm warning you: We are at the verge of having "something"
             | in the information arena, which will allow us to talk to
             | the Americans as equals._
             | 
             | (https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-
             | chapter/chapter-2/ind...)
             | 
             | I can only assume that he's talking about some methodology
             | related to this "conflict propagation" and that Russia
             | isn't the only state actor pursuing these things.
             | 
             | To think that critical dynamical modes in social networks
             | are seen as opportunities to be exploited... it's wild but
             | I guess not surprising.
        
       | summari wrote:
        
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