[HN Gopher] Calif. sues Tesla over alleged rampant discriminatio...
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Calif. sues Tesla over alleged rampant discrimination against Black
employees
Author : trs8080
Score : 12 points
Date : 2022-02-11 21:15 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.npr.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.npr.org)
| robbedpeter wrote:
| Given that such blatant racism is so uncommon out in the real
| world it would make sense if the idiot racists causing problems
| here come from the same source - a prison release or probationary
| placement program, a racist union head or hiring manager, or
| whatever. Something is accumulating racist people, or allowing
| them to build up.
|
| The scope of the problem depends on whether it's a systemic issue
| like described above, or a really prolific small number of people
| causing problems. The lack of appropriate management hints that
| there's a problem in the upper levels, so some guy might be
| giving jobs to ex convicts or some other group of racists.
|
| Some nasty bubble of deficient humans seems to have infected that
| plant.
| kbelder wrote:
| Or it's not true.
| gumby wrote:
| > Given that such blatant racism is so uncommon out in the real
| world...
|
| Was this ironic? I live in the Bay Area, and while I know there
| are worse places for racism in the US (and have lived in some
| of them) the conduct in the complaint did not surprise me at
| all.
| t-3 wrote:
| Wow. The allegations are horrifying, almost fantastically so. I
| have a hard time believing them, honestly. My midwestern state is
| supposed to be far less progressive and more racist than CA, but
| I've never encountered such blatant racism in any workplace here
| (and I have worked exclusively in low-wage manufacturing and
| retail, not anywhere "professional").
| partisan wrote:
| I think it can happen anywhere where these sentiments are
| allowed to rear their heads. It only takes a few people to
| create this atmosphere, but if the culture of the organization
| turns a blind eye then this can be disproportionately
| detrimental to the people targeted by harassment.
|
| Calling the lawsuit "counterproductive" is troubling as well as
| it almost sounds like they felt the situation was previously
| productive, i.e. moving in a positive direction.
| metadat wrote:
| Likewise, except I've never witnessed blatant racism in either
| "manual labor -land" or professional-land.
|
| The claims do bring back memories of being a middle schooler in
| the bay area, though. Kids can be quite unenlightened,
| predictably so if they aren't taught better. Parental and close
| familial norms also seem to play a significant role in shaping
| you children's attitudes.
|
| Additionally, confederate flag tattoos flashed by colleagues at
| work? Really?
|
| Inappropriate. This isn't the yard at San Quentin Federal
| Prison pressing and assembling y'alls' Teslas; this is claimed
| to be at the dear NUMI plant in Fremont, right alongside a very
| diverse and distinctive community. There's just no place for
| these things in real-life business.
|
| What is the goal with the outrageous claims? Why would
| management tolerate any significant amount of episodes before
| clamping down. It doesn't make sense..
|
| What does Tesla have to gain by tolerating any amount of the
| claws behavior?
| tinalumfoil wrote:
| After the 137MM settlement for alleged use of the n-word, I have
| trouble taking California seriously. It's such a comically large
| amount and so regressive to give it one person, I can only see it
| as a show of strength and dislike towards Tesla than anything
| related to protecting employees. Employees have been dismembered,
| blinded, disabled, injured beyond what the body is capable of
| healing fully, but very very few torts, even if the employer is
| fully responsible, get anywhere near that amount. Your employer
| could literally kill you and your dependents would be _very_
| lucky if the courts in any state valued your life at anywhere
| near a hundred million.
|
| California isn't saying, "stop racism in your workplace." They're
| saying, "we're going to throw everything at the wall, regardless
| of how un/in-credible, until you get out of our state."
| [deleted]
| colejohnson66 wrote:
| If a company's employees find nothing pressing about removing
| literal swastikas, N-word graffiti, and more (as alleged), then
| they need a kick in the head. A lawsuit like this isn't a
| "throw everything and see what sticks"; It's saying, "you're
| doing nothing about blatant racism, so we're enforcing the
| law." It being Tesla has nothing to do with it despite what
| some Elon fans will say.
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