[HN Gopher] Last call to voluntarily migrate Java accounts
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       Last call to voluntarily migrate Java accounts
        
       Author : mccorrinall
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2022-02-09 20:51 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.minecraft.net)
        
       | tomrod wrote:
       | Darn. It's been a fun 10 years. Farewell Minecraft.
        
         | no_time wrote:
         | Just get a cracked copy. No need to get sentimental.
        
         | LoveGracePeace wrote:
         | I left Minecraft when they first announced they were breaking
         | my contractual agreement as an early purchaser of Minecraft
         | from Mojang. It was a fun several years, then Microsoft came
         | along.
        
       | guelo wrote:
       | Minecraft logins and app types are so confusing. I've bought two
       | accounts but lost one of them because I can't figure out which
       | app type or login type it was for.
        
         | Macha wrote:
         | There's three types:
         | 
         | Minecraft account: pre-2015-ish, you sign in with a username
         | and password. I believe these still work until the deadline in
         | this post.
         | 
         | Mojang account: 2015-2019, you sign in with an email and
         | password. You could migrate a Minecraft account to this. Goes
         | away in the deadline in this post.
         | 
         | Microsoft account: 2020+, you sign in with an email and
         | password in a microsoft branded web view. You could migrate a
         | Mojang account to it, but I think Minecraft accounts are a two
         | step migration.
        
       | narush wrote:
       | They've been publicizing this migration for at least a few years
       | - I think I migrated my migration after a communication in 2020).
       | Not sure what the actual implications are for who controls my
       | data, but I can say: as a very casual Minecraft user, this change
       | was pretty well publicized and rolled out.
       | 
       | P.S. Anyone else who has mostly stopped playing Minecraft but
       | continues to watch Let's Plays on YouTube? I play Minecraft
       | probably once every 3 months, but watch Minecraft content at
       | least once a week...
        
         | Macha wrote:
         | MultiMC Linux support for Microsoft logins is... weird, which
         | has been my reason for putting off the migration.
         | 
         | The MultiMC dev has since been hired as the official Minecraft
         | launcher dev, and I guess that means they don't want to just be
         | publishing their Microsoft SDK key for the Minecraft logins.
         | But it means they've been on a bit of a war on linux distros
         | packagng MultiMC or Linux users using anything other than his
         | published binaries.
         | 
         | I've recently switched to GDLauncher, so will have to see how
         | their MS account support story is, though it's got more of a
         | "modern"/flat/big pictures UI feel to it and is clunkier to use
        
         | vgel wrote:
         | re:PS, same -- the game itself takes too much time investment
         | to want to play regularly, but the stuff people manage to do in
         | it is really impressive. There's a new programming paradigm
         | waiting to be discovered inside Minecraft...
        
         | Ntrails wrote:
         | I loaded up minecraft for the first time since pre covid a
         | couple weeks back. Was surprised to see it telling me my mojang
         | account was on life support vOv
        
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       | uncomputation wrote:
       | The rollout has been good and well-planned, and definitely a long
       | time in the making, but why is it whenever some user change is
       | rolled out it is always to "improve user security"? Is it just a
       | short hand at this point?
        
       | overshard wrote:
       | My only issue with this is that I can go to my password manager
       | and I have like 10 different Microsoft accounts over the years,
       | some of which seem to be merged, some of which are not, some are
       | from Microsoft acquired entities like Skype and all of them
       | confuse me.
       | 
       | I seem to be able to use some of them to login to the same merged
       | account and others don't work anymore at all.
       | 
       | Microsoft's entire auth ecosystem since Live has been a confusing
       | mess for me especially when they acquire someone and start
       | bringing them into the fold.
       | 
       | I tend to just avoid it, I'm not deep into the Microsoft
       | ecosystem and rather not have the headache at this point.
        
       | inciampati wrote:
       | I set up a Microsoft account because it was required to purchase
       | Minecraft in late 2021. Somehow I forgot the password or the
       | account was locked because I didn't supply a phone number. I
       | tried to recover using my recovery email address and Microsoft
       | would not grant me access unless I gave a record of who I'd
       | corresponded with and some email headings. I literally only have
       | a receipt for Minecraft in the inbox. A recovery attempt failed
       | after 10 days. I don't see how initiating another would solve the
       | problem and I find it mindbending that the won't let me recover
       | using my recovery email address. So here I am telling my kid that
       | we can't access all the worlds we made over the holidays, and
       | contemplating making another purchase because my time isn't worth
       | this annoyance. But I'm incredibly annoyed that they will happily
       | take my money again for something I just purchased!
        
         | j1elo wrote:
         | Anyone knows how to set a Microsoft account so they don't
         | require a verification code sent to another email? I want
         | _this_ to be the place where _other_ accounts send their
         | verification codes. The last thing I need is to go on a spree
         | of chained verifications when on a hurry and /or on the go with
         | my tiny smartphone.
         | 
         | What's worse with all these verification systems is that what
         | happens if you make the human mistake of setting them to the
         | other email, so each one sends their verificacion to the other
         | one. I just want to use my very secure passwords and maybe a
         | OTP key, not depending on third party emails :-(
        
         | eps wrote:
         | Microsoft doesn't shy away from outright lying to pry phone
         | numbers from people.
         | 
         | I made a couple of Xbox accounts for my kids to use for some PC
         | game. Used unique emails on my own domain and hosted on my own
         | private mail server. Declined requests to provide any extras.
         | Not a week in MS sends an email to both that literally said
         | "Your _email_ account was hacked. Your Xbox account is
         | suspended. Secure it with a phone number or it will be
         | deleted."
         | 
         | The new and improved, people-friendly Microsoft. Just a fresh
         | coat of paint over the same old core.
        
         | ShowalkKama wrote:
         | Fear not, you didn't lose any of your progress (unless you
         | plaid on a realm), all the worlds are saved ~/.minecraft/saves.
         | 
         | If you don't want to buy another account you could use one of
         | the many launchers that allow you to play without an account
         | (tlauncher, shiginima...) but your mileage may vary. You could
         | also use multimc but, since it requires an account to download
         | the assets, you'd need to copy around the files in the
         | .minecraft folder used by the official launcher which can be
         | challenging and annoying to do.
         | 
         | Edit: I have a similar thing going on with Microsoft too, to
         | migrate the account I need access to the email which I no
         | longer have. I've been opening a ticket every ~3 months for the
         | past ~2 years and they still refuse to switch my email address.
         | Luckily I can still play the game (not for long) since I still
         | have access to the account
        
         | encryptluks2 wrote:
         | Microsoft does this all the time where they will lock you out
         | of an account and make it near impossible for you to recover
         | even when you still have access to the email address and
         | password.
        
           | eckesicle wrote:
           | Microsoft locked me out of my Skype account by enabling an
           | old phone number as two factor out of the blue. I hadn't used
           | that number for 10 years.
           | 
           | So disappointing since it was my only point of contact with
           | lots of old friends.
        
           | rpdillon wrote:
           | This happened to me with LinkedIn (during a job search!) when
           | my phone that had 2FA on it stopped booting entirely (Pixel
           | 3a). Support had no reason they wouldn't simply contact me
           | via the contact methods on my profile to reset 2FA, so I'm in
           | limbo right now.
           | 
           | To be fair, they want me to email pictures of my driver's
           | license to recover the account, which they pinky-promise
           | they'll delete afterwards. I'm not willing to do that, given
           | I didn't have to provide any ID to sign up in the first
           | place. So now I'm looking into having this form they sent to
           | me notorized so I can get access back. What a mess.
        
             | madjam002 wrote:
             | That just sounds like 2FA working as intended to me.
        
               | rpdillon wrote:
               | Interesting take! Escalating the information being
               | demanded to recover the account beyond that used to sign
               | up is not something I can really get on board with.
        
       | l0b0 wrote:
        
       | Ntrails wrote:
       | Genuine question - can I just get a refund if they're intending
       | to force this change? I assume not, but I don't see how it isn't
       | breaking the agreement I made with mojang in the first place
        
       | JoshTriplett wrote:
       | Several people I know play and mod Minetest
       | (https://www.minetest.net/). It seems to be the most complete
       | replacement available, as well as enabling extensive modding.
        
       | hughrr wrote:
       | We come in peace. Shoot to kill.
        
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