[HN Gopher] WinAmp Community Update Project
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WinAmp Community Update Project
Author : Tomte
Score : 52 points
Date : 2022-02-09 19:38 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (getwacup.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (getwacup.com)
| darig wrote:
| RedShift1 wrote:
| I could only find the changelog for the previous March 2021
| release, what's changed in this release?
| jaywalk wrote:
| Did you try clicking the "Changelogs" link in the header?
| https://getwacup.com/changelog/
| poisonborz wrote:
| If you look for a more modern Winamp-like audio player - down to
| supporting a lot of Winamp plugins - I really recommend AIMP.
| thedoctor_o wrote:
| AIMP misses the boat on the sort of Winamp plug-ins I still
| want to have supported whilst not using an actual Winamp itself
| (as is now the aim for WACUP). Sure it's an option but a
| limited sub-set of Winamp 2.x era plug-ins isn't great :)
|
| -dro
| jraph wrote:
| For long, I wished Winamp would be open sourced. I don't
| understand the benefit of keeping it closed.
|
| I'm not sure I would be back to using it though. I'm used to my
| current player, which already does everything I would expect from
| Winamp, with a (arguably) worse look but much better UX.
|
| Audacious with the Winamp classic interface is also a great
| Winamp for those who (still) fancy this look and feel.
| richardfey wrote:
| The benefit of keeping it closed: squeeze some money from
| people googling winamp.
|
| Why would you give up that revenue stream? It might also have
| some residual allure to attract investment capital.
| bennyp101 wrote:
| It must be there somewhere, a friend recently told me it's in
| AUR - and I replied with "I don't have mp3s anymore" he sent
| a screenshot of just under a TB of music.
|
| I guess some people just moved to streaming (me) and others
| stuck true to their roots
| brimble wrote:
| All of the music I listen to is local files or YouTube
| videos (great for sampling new stuff). The only time I've
| ever used any of the online streaming services was in an
| office that had one set up on speakers--and by "used" I
| mean "listened to what others played", I took one look at
| the UI and wanted nothing to do with it.
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| I've also got about a terabyte of music.
|
| Streaming is useful for me for discovery, not consumption.
| If I read an online or magazine article that means an
| artist I want to check out, the fastest way is usually
| searching for them on Spotify or YouTube Music.
|
| But if I like what I hear and think I'll listen to it again
| in the future, my next step is to see if the artist is
| available on Bandcamp with high-quality MP3s/FLACs, or
| Amazon with AutoRips available. Failing that, I'll purchase
| the physical album and do the rips myself.
| selfhoster11 wrote:
| Spotify pretty doesn't have any of kind of music that I
| want, which is pretty surreal given their marketing. I
| subsist on YouTube playlists and a Bandcamp account.
| thedoctor_o wrote:
| You've already got an open source Winamp if you're using the
| likes of xmms, qmmp, Audacious or anything else that
| effectively loads classic style skins (not that they tend to
| get it spot in) so does it really matter what the state of
| Winamp vs it's source code is...? I'd say no.
|
| As you've clearly got something that fits your needs as do I by
| slowly making my own Winamp compatible player to run my old
| Winamp plug-ins (which were always closed source nor am I for
| or against OSS but it needs to be the dev that decides not
| external pressure) because I don't trust nor like what's
| happened with those that now own the brand.
|
| Also source code is pointless without dev(s) & unless we're
| looking for AI to do all of the coding, whether the code is
| open or closed, the fleshy meat bag bashing the keyboard is
| still needed for the time being :)
|
| Use what makes you happy & I'll keep making & using what makes
| me happy too :)
|
| -dro
| stavros wrote:
| What player do you have that has better UX? Winamp was
| lightning fast, could do anything in a few keystrokes
| (especially that "jump to" dialog was magical) and got out of
| the way. It was perfect.
| alternatetwo wrote:
| The source code leaked a while ago, but IIRC not the final
| version. And it's not like one could really use it.
| thedoctor_o wrote:
| It pre-dates the 5.666 release & is of no use to any project
| trying to do things correctly i.e. whoever did (I have my
| suspicions) basically shafted a load of projects that could
| have made legitimate benefit.
|
| -dro
| tomjen3 wrote:
| I have winamp on my old windows machine. I love the program,
| but it is so much XP are that it hurts.
|
| Let me explain: if you want to use your computer ofline, with a
| local store of MP3 files that you play on limited hardware
| without any impact on your computer, it is great. Go download
| it.
|
| However in practice you almost certainly won't want to do that.
| What you want is to be constantly connected to the internet,
| you want the ability to listen to whatever track you want at
| whatever time you want.
|
| And for that, Winamp won't serve your needs.
|
| I get the nostalgia and I am not really sure if the XP time
| wasn't better than our current one, but do keep in mind what
| you are trading of.
| selfhoster11 wrote:
| The problem of storing all the music in the world locally had
| been solved for a long time. Just get a bigger hard drive.
| agildehaus wrote:
| If I knew the secret to llama ass-whooping, I wouldn't share
| it.
| ahmed_ds wrote:
| Few weeks ago I actually installed WinAmp because I needed that
| nostalgia dopamine hit of Milkdrop visualizer and those sweet
| skins. I downloaded some mp3 files from a YouTube playlist using
| FFMPEG. Unfortunately none of the mp3 worked. I think it was an
| encoding issue. Then I remembered the last time I faced a media
| file encoding problem was close to a decade ago.
|
| We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software are.
| erinaceousjones wrote:
| For the visualizations - Milkdrop is alive and well as projectM
| (which sometimes comes bundled with VLC, sometimes not?):
| https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm
|
| Which has a ridiculous level of cross-platform compatibility. I
| can throw up 3 copies of projectM-pulseaudio on my big
| 3-monitor work machine and have it listen to any audio sink,
| I've got it installed on my Android TV and it happily responds
| to whatever audio's being played, so works with streaming apps
| and whatnot.
|
| There's also thousands and thousands of presets you can add
| which the community has been adding to since way back when it
| was still milkdrop, and people have made curated lists like
| this person's NestDrop:
| https://thefulldomeblog.com/2020/02/21/nestdrop-presets-coll...
| vmception wrote:
| My issue now is that there is no way to stream my music and
| make these visualizations come up on people's screens
|
| I want something as simple as spotify over chromecast, that
| shows these visualizations on the fly
|
| The metric is: can I do this in a hotel room that happens to
| have a smart tv?
|
| Because it has to pass that bar, not the bar of plugging in a
| computer to my own tv's hdmi port
| captbaritone wrote:
| For anyone wanting to dip back into the nostalgia of Winamp and
| Milkdrop without installing any software, I made
| https://webamp.org for that exact purpose.
|
| It can render real Milkdrop presets and real classic winamp
| skins directly in the browser.
|
| Also, it's open source: https://github.com/captbaritone/webamp
| emerged wrote:
| That's awesome!
|
| I actually still use Winamp 2 on a daily basis. The
| visualizations were my favorite part and is one of the major
| avenues which drove me get into software optimization. It
| would be fair to say my entire life might be very different
| if it weren't for that influence.
| silisili wrote:
| Cool site!
|
| One note: On Brave mobile, the seek slider doesn't actually
| work. It moves and says 'seek to:' but doesn't.
| na85 wrote:
| >We take granted how good VLC or MPC-HC as software are.
|
| Yeah but neither VLC nor MPC-HC really whips the llama's ass.
| brimble wrote:
| VLC was the reason I stopped caring about "codec packs". If I
| ever hit a problem along those lines, or some media format that
| won't play for any other reason, instead of installing codecs
| or whatever, I install VLC.
| alamortsubite wrote:
| I don't know about the visualizer, but Audacious lets you
| install Winamp skins. Source: rocking Bento Classified
| uninterrupted since 1999.
| ancientsofmumu wrote:
| Audacious makes a great minimal streaming (icecast/shoutcast)
| desktop player once you futz with the UI a little to get it
| how you like for that purpose. Like you, years of trying out
| a lot of gui players but I go back to Audacious every time.
| kenchan wrote:
| That feeling when you thought the llama finally escaped abuse..
| jarrettcoggin wrote:
| It was a great branding step though!
| bennyp101 wrote:
| 25? Years later and people still know exactly what part got
| whipped!
| jraph wrote:
| I'll die before I forget how this 5 second long demo mp3
| sounds.
| willis936 wrote:
| Maybe the llama has grown to like it.
| taubek wrote:
| WinAmp was my favorite music player. Skins, EQ, visualization,...
| It had all. I also like the fact that you could listen to
| Internet radio stations with it.
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