[HN Gopher] The Integrative Role of the Sigh
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       The Integrative Role of the Sigh
        
       Author : arc-in-space
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2022-02-03 08:46 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | TheJoeMan wrote:
       | Just yesterday at work we were discussing how some fancier
       | ventilators are adding 1/min sighs:
       | https://pubs.asahq.org/anesthesiology/article/96/4/788/39284...
        
       | arc-in-space wrote:
       | This came up in another thread
       | (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30181560), it's pretty
       | interesting. I have never heard of the sigh as a physiological
       | function before.
        
         | yodon wrote:
         | I know we're just supposed to upvote but I wanted to explicitly
         | thank you for finding and posting this article (I too was
         | captivated by the mention of the sigh as a psychological
         | function in that previous HN post, but I didn't succeed at
         | finding a summary like this one).
        
           | jimkleiber wrote:
           | I'm curious as to what psychological impacts we receive when
           | a norm is to only express gratitude through a very anonymous
           | and vague upvote. I think what the article explores is how a
           | simple, seemingly meaningless, factor may influence us more
           | than we think and I wonder how design decisions of HN do as
           | well.
           | 
           | So, I'll also break it and say thank you for inspiring me to
           | wonder about this.
        
             | wizzwizz4 wrote:
             | I think the intentions behind the norm are for _generic_
             | expressions of gratitude to be restricted to upvotes. When
             | there are so many people communicating with each other in a
             | shared environment, you kind of have to have a rule like
             | that.
             | 
             | If this website had private responses, that'd solve that
             | issue, but it'd also make abusive behaviour easier. Then
             | you'd need to have a report system that allowed people to
             | provide context, and before you know it, you need a _large_
             | moderation team rather than the very small one that Hacker
             | News currently gets away with.
             | 
             | I wonder whether there's a way to have it both ways.
        
               | jimkleiber wrote:
               | I appreciate you pointing out the nuances in how it might
               | play out, not just for the user, but also for the
               | moderation of it behind the scenes. The pains and
               | scalability of moderation is something I've thought about
               | a lot when I've been imagining myself as the
               | admin/moderator, yet, oddly enough, I easily forget about
               | it when I just think about myself as the user.
               | 
               | For example, as a user on HN, I've often felt so lost in
               | having conversations longer than a day, because I only
               | notice upticks in my karma (is that what it's called
               | here?) number and if someone replied to something not on
               | the first page of my threads, then it may as well
               | disappear. So I've wondered why HN doesn't have
               | notifications, yet maybe there's a hidden moderation pain
               | that I'm not imagining behind the scenes.
        
             | sufficer wrote:
             | Are you high?
        
               | jimkleiber wrote:
               | No, I work in human communication.
        
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       | adolph wrote:
       | I don't see it mentioned here yet, but the Huberman Lab podcast
       | "Dr. Jack Feldman: Breathing For Mental & Physical Health &
       | Performance" covers the function of sighs and other interesting
       | topics. "They discuss physiological sighs, peptides expressed by
       | specific neurons controlling breathing, and magnesium compounds
       | that can improve cognitive ability and how they work."
       | 
       | https://hubermanlab.com/dr-jack-feldman-breathing-for-mental...
        
       | unraveller wrote:
       | Psychologists are quick to glorify weaknesses these days. A sigh
       | is a breath signal for helplessness, it follows that mammals
       | would instinctively look around after expressing an exhaustion of
       | known options. I'm sure other kinds of breaths (gasp) probably
       | alter nervous function too, it wouldn't fascinate me any more
       | than the sigh/gasp YT video thumbnails do.
       | 
       | Every time I see a slumped alcoholic sipping on their liquid
       | anguish I think the habit must have started with a single sigh,
       | itself an idea planted by a bar of unattainable nostalgia music.
        
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         | andrei_says_ wrote:
         | I'm sorry but this statement is so ridiculous on so many
         | levels.
         | 
         | Any source on a sigh being a "breath signal for helplessness"?
         | 
         | Did you just made this sentence up, then use that sentence as a
         | stepping stone to a scene with an imaginary alcoholic whose
         | predicament was caused by a sigh?!
         | 
         | For starters, how is processing or integrating emotion a
         | weakness?
        
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