[HN Gopher] Show HN: Nine Letter Word - Daily Puzzle
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       Show HN: Nine Letter Word - Daily Puzzle
        
       I've been playing Wordle and remembered this puzzle game I used to
       play with my grandfather. It's inspired by the block puzzles in
       many newspapers but made to be shorter: just guess the nine letter
       word.  So I made a quick thing to play with my family like we used
       to. I thought you guys might enjoy it.
        
       Author : mahin
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2022-02-05 08:58 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nineletterwordgame.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nineletterwordgame.com)
        
       | pharmakom wrote:
       | I dislike how you cannot make incremental progress in this game
       | (compared to wordle, hangman, etc)
        
       | flazor wrote:
       | First thing I tried was was tapping the letters to fill the
       | answer input. Might be a nice feature to add.
        
         | BurningFrog wrote:
         | Even better if you can rearrange them within the square.
         | 
         | Much like you would on a Scrabble rack.
        
         | mahin wrote:
         | Definitely. Would tapping a selected letter deselect it? I
         | thought it might be a bit confusing if you deselect a letter
         | that's not the latest one. Maybe a 'Clear' button would help.
        
           | flazor wrote:
           | I'd say tapping an unused letter would disable it and grey it
           | out. Then have a backspace button to remove latest letter,
           | re-enabling it in the grid.
        
           | huhtenberg wrote:
           | No need for deselecting. Just add Undo and Reset buttons and
           | that'll do it nicely.
           | 
           | For a minimalist version of the same, add just the Undo
           | button and do a full board reset on long-press.
        
           | montroser wrote:
           | I think a 'Delete' button which would delete the latest in
           | order. So tapping the letters would act like typing on a
           | keyboard, and 'Delete' would like Backspace.
           | 
           | NYT Spelling Bee works like this and it's a pretty similar
           | interface.
        
             | smeej wrote:
             | You just need a 4th row with a back button to delete, a
             | refresh button to reset, and an OK or check button to
             | submit.
        
       | hnlmorg wrote:
       | The presentation of this is nice but if you're hoping this might
       | blow up like Wordle then you'd need a few more gimmicks because
       | what you've built there is basically just a Countdown Conundrum
       | (https://wiki.apterous.org/Conundrum) laid out as a square; and
       | there's already lots of these puzzles online (plus literally
       | decades of TV footage from Countdown too, eg
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9aILIF_ms).
        
         | boudin wrote:
         | At the same time Wordle is just the game Lingo, no?
        
           | culi wrote:
           | Yeah I don't the fact that it already technically exists
           | plays much of a factor in how likely it is to blow up. Every
           | now and then a new game/app comes out that renames some
           | Japanese puzzle game and blows up.
           | 
           | E.g. "hashiwokakero/fences/hashi/chopsticks" or
           | "slitherlink/fences" or anyone of Conceptis' (underrated)
           | apps
        
           | culi wrote:
           | Wow you weren't kidding. I just looked it up and the rules
           | for Lingo are virtually exactly the same! 5 letters, 6
           | guesses, and everything
        
       | Max_Ehrlich wrote:
       | This is really cool. First thing I looked for was a Wordle-type
       | "share" button.
       | 
       | Maybe add a Wordle-style share button? Then everyone can play
       | this with their friends.
        
         | krallja wrote:
         | It's at the top, now.
        
           | neogodless wrote:
           | "Share" seems to just use the built in device sharing, and
           | shares the URL. It's much more interesting if you can copy
           | your personal results (how long it took, if you got hints) to
           | your keyboard and then share it however you like!
        
             | krallja wrote:
             | On iOS it shares:
             | 
             | Nine Letter Word #5 29 seconds 0 hints
        
               | neogodless wrote:
               | I'm on Oxygen OS 10.3.8 (based on Android 10) and I got
               | the mediocre "share to app" menu. I chose Gmail to see
               | the text, and it was just the URL. I'll blame about 50%
               | on this share menu, since it doesn't even include
               | "clipboard" (which is weird, I've had that in the past on
               | Android, but maybe OxygenOS removed it for some inane
               | reason), but I'd still prefer the "copy to clipboard"
               | default behavior that Wordle/Dordle/Nerdle have.
        
               | pbhjpbhj wrote:
               | On FF on quite-old Android 7.0 I chose share (within the
               | web page), then "copy to clipboard" and the text is:
               | https://www.nineletterwordgame.com/
               | 
               | Not quite what I was expecting! If I send to notepad then
               | the first line is "null" and the second is the address as
               | above.
               | 
               | I did 23s but I think the grid form makes it much slower,
               | I prefer it Countdown (a UK television quiz) style, just
               | in a row.
        
       | pxeger1 wrote:
       | Really nice puzzle design. Just a few UI/UX things:
       | 
       | I was confused by the fact it lets you enter a letter more times
       | than appear in the box. It would be nice to have the same limit
       | that prevents you entering more than 9 letters, for when you
       | enter too many letters. It would also be good to have a
       | transitory popup explaining why you can't enter more letters.
       | 
       | The "incorrect" popup should go away after a while, or be
       | manually dismissible.
       | 
       | I think the enter button should be a more stand-out colour.
       | 
       | Because the word "ANSWER" is in all-capitals, it looks like it's
       | an example guess, but it's only 6 letters, which is a little bit
       | confusing. I'd suggest making it Titlecase and left-aligned.
        
       | phyzix5761 wrote:
       | Cool idea. I would suggest verifying the solution server side. It
       | took me just a few minutes to figure out how to get the answer in
       | the browser's console because the solution is given on the client
       | side.
        
         | snowman-yelling wrote:
         | Why can't you just play the game without cheating? Same thing
         | can be done with Wordle...
        
       | xigoi wrote:
       | I found it unclear whether the letters can be placed in any
       | order, or it has something to do with the grad. You might want to
       | clarify that it's just an anagram.
        
       | greenyoda wrote:
       | I liked the "shuffle" feature. Shuffling a few times helped me
       | figure out what the word was.
        
         | mahin wrote:
         | I need to change it so it doesn't shuffle letters in an order
         | too close to the solution. Maybe 3 letters in the same order is
         | too similar?
        
           | redlohr wrote:
           | Any of the eight tuples should probably not be in order ( or
           | just let one of them through ). An easier method might be to
           | limit shuffling to once every minute.
           | 
           | Neat concept!
           | 
           | edit: burningfrog's suggestion is an alternative to shuffle
           | that would be even better
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30221479
        
       | jmull wrote:
       | That's quite nicely done.
       | 
       | Since it's timed, I suggest to show the timer.
        
         | smeej wrote:
         | I didn't realize it was timed until I finished reading the
         | directions.
         | 
         | I'd have liked an option where it didn't show the letters until
         | I chose to reveal them, and started the timer at that point.
         | 
         | I knew the word right away, but tapping the letters didn't
         | enter them, so I went to read what I thought would be the
         | directions, which didn't help me with that specific question,
         | and then finally figured out I just had to type the answer in
         | the box and submit, so I wound up 25 seconds in instead of <5.
         | 
         | Obviously these are first-use-only problems, but they'd be nice
         | improvements for first-timers!
        
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