[HN Gopher] That's all folks, for me anyway - Canon Rumors will ...
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That's all folks, for me anyway - Canon Rumors will live on
Author : techolic
Score : 55 points
Date : 2022-02-04 21:41 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.canonrumors.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.canonrumors.com)
| ser0 wrote:
| Since the description is pretty light. It seems Canon Rumors is a
| site dedicated to Canon related news in the same vein as
| MacRumors.
| mercantile wrote:
| Is anyone able to get a little more specific about the kinds of
| "creators" he's talking about and what they do exactly which
| drive these abuse problems?
|
| I read the article, but felt like there wasn't quite enough
| information to understand what a YouTube person does to cause
| trouble, although I totally believe it. I know a bit about
| cameras, but nothing about this adjacent "rumours" subindustry.
| jacquesm wrote:
| Incredible how the assholes will even destroy something so
| obviously good and by going after the guys' wife and kids no
| less. It is absolutely disgusting.
|
| HN has its share of jerks, I've had someone threaten to come by
| my house and beat me up (I'm pretty easy to locate) but I figured
| it's all bluff and easier said than done, and in the
| camarades.com/ww.com days I got far worse thrown at me so I've
| learned to live with it. But it shouldn't come to that.
|
| The internet used to be a nice place. There were flamewars and
| the occasional crappy argument but nobody threatened people with
| bodily harm. Then the village became a town, and then the town
| became a big city. And then all the bad stuff that happens in big
| cities came right along with it, including the jerks, the
| swatters and the drive by shooters.
|
| There is a Dire Straits song in there somewhere.
|
| Sites like canonrumors.com should be neutral territory, like
| churches used to be, places where people can read and exchange
| information without harassing the owners and the moderators. If
| you have showdead on you can see what a 'nice' place HN is every
| now and then. As it gets more mainstream here too the interaction
| will get more coarse.
|
| I've already made up my mind to walk when dang does.
| eunoia wrote:
| Well a long time ago, came a man on a track
|
| Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back
|
| And he put down his load where he thought it was the best
|
| He made a home in the wilderness
|
| He built a cabin and a winter store
|
| And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore
|
| And the other travellers came walking down the track
|
| And they never went further, no they never went back
|
| Then came the churches, then came the schools
|
| Then came the lawyers, then came the rules
|
| Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
|
| And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road
|
| Then came the mines, then came the ore,
|
| Then there was the hard times, then there was a war
|
| Telegraph sang a song about the world outside
|
| Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide
|
| Like a rolling river
|
| Never thought I'd get to quote a Dire Straits song on Hacker
| News :)
| throw0101a wrote:
| > _Incredible how the assholes will even destroy something so
| obviously good and by going after the guys ' wife and kids no
| less. It is absolutely disgusting._
|
| Wonder if it'd be helpful to publish and name names:
|
| > _However, yesterday they came at my children and my wife.
| They came at my family..... little fanboys of certain YouTubers
| that have obviously been raised horribly. What was in my inbox
| I won't even show my wife. I'm tearing up writing this with
| absolute disgust for how horrible people are becoming. All of
| this is created by the personalities (I refuse to call them
| creators), they feed off of it, they profit off of it and they
| don't care._
| dekhn wrote:
| When I was in college, my girlfriend lost her driver's
| license. Somebody mailed it back to her, but with a
| pornographic image pasted onto her face picture.
|
| I just don't get it.
| moralestapia wrote:
| >I've already made up my mind to walk when dang does.
|
| I used to hate dang with a passion because of a previous
| account that got banned for ... reasons.
|
| But, with time, I've come to appreciate the job that he's been
| doing in order to keep the community sane. Thanks dang and I
| hope HN stays the way it is for a longer while :).
| rrdharan wrote:
| > And then all the bad stuff that happens in big cities came
| right along with it, including the jerks, the swatters and the
| drive by shooters.
|
| That stuff also happens in towns and villages. They just don't
| have enough people to make it as much of a news story.
| noja wrote:
| I get an octet stream when I visit that URL
|
| edit: not the second time.
| jacquesm wrote:
| I think you just betrayed your age :)
| burlesona wrote:
| Seems like the site is getting the HN Hug of Death.
| https://archive.fo/QF72b
| dang wrote:
| Also
| https://web.archive.org/web/20220204212748/https://www.canon...
| jffry wrote:
| Here's a mirror: https://archive.ph/QF72b
|
| Linked page seems to have been hugged to death and is sporadic
| about actually loading right now.
| jer0me wrote:
| Can someone provide more context?
| mwidell wrote:
| The author of the site went on a pretty fierce meltdown on
| Twitter, throwing shit at several people but mostly Gerald Undone
| who is a very loved, likeable, competent and successful gear
| reviewer on youtube. Now he has just deleted all these tweets.
| https://twitter.com/canonrumorsguy/with_replies
|
| Honestly I think he was just frustrated with the fame, success
| and money that the gear-review-youtubers are getting, while he
| was working hard to provide news on a website that struggled to
| survive. That would be my guess at least.
| silisili wrote:
| Definitely not justified, but makes me as a consumer rather
| sad.
|
| I'm not sure if generational, though it does seem that way -
| but I'm personally astounded by the number of people who prefer
| video reviews to a well written article. Aside from the obvious
| things like having to listen and watch, not being able to
| easily scan - there's just so.many.ads, not YT ads, but uh,
| 'sponsors.' The whole industry feels incredibly gross and
| insincere to me.
|
| Again, to be clear - that doesn't justify any of the above,
| just kinda makes me think I'd feel the same way in his shoes.
| sdenton4 wrote:
| But did you read the canon rumors post? Without an ad blocker
| on mobile it is a relentless wall of ads with occasional
| sentences stuck between them... And of course a plea to allow
| notifications.
| newsclues wrote:
| Not only is it shocking that so many people want video
| content but once quality article websites are gone the
| quality of videos that use the written content online as the
| basis for the video scripts!
| annoyingnoob wrote:
| It sounds like someone threatened his family in a way that was
| meaningful. How would you react?
| Someone1234 wrote:
| That wasn't what his original twitter rant was about though.
| His original rant was about YTers being overpaid and
| overrated, then this "someone threatened my family" claim was
| after that all blew up.
|
| It isn't at all clear what started all this, but the claim of
| threats/actual threats was the end of it.
| mwidell wrote:
| Having watched a lot of Gerald Undone's videos, I have a very
| very hard time imagining how he could incite anyone to
| threaten someones family. But I don't know the backstory,
| just saw the meltdown.
| dblooman wrote:
| There are lots of people, especially YouTube commentators
| who will rush to attack anyone who is seemed to have hated
| on their favourite creator. It doesn't matter who started
| what, it ended with apparent threats which is not ok
| gkoberger wrote:
| I'm not sure what happened, but it doesn't seem like this is the
| whole story. He deleted his tweets, but Twitter replies seem like
| this writer started it. This is the best I could find in regards
| to context:
|
| https://twitter.com/ByStephenJones/status/148963260212212121...
|
| https://twitter.com/HarrisHeller/status/1489513376371785728
|
| I know of neither person involved, and am not sure what's
| happening. (It's hard to put together a timeline, and I'm not
| sure what was said via email, but whatever it was didn't seem to
| come from the YouTuber in question at all nor was it prompted by
| him. The YouTuber in question seems like a pretty good guy, if
| not maybe a bit less technical, from the very little I know.)
| ziggus wrote:
| Wait, is all this drama going on just about a camera equipment
| blog/news site?
|
| WTF?
| Gualdrapo wrote:
| After learning about game developers being threatened by people
| just because how they game performed, this does not surprise
| me.
| Someone1234 wrote:
| That's a rather dismissive attitude. Internet personalities and
| their fans have gone to war before, and you could dismiss those
| just as easily as just about "gaming" or "PC hardware" or
| similar.
|
| Like why not "just politics" and "just land." See everything
| can be thrown out with the bathwater that way.
| MikeDelta wrote:
| Or programming language or web framework.
|
| Humans indeed like to form groups over any possible variable.
| Too bad it sometimes brings up the worst.
| cozzyd wrote:
| Well it's better than my initial reaction (is author dying?), but
| not by much. I'm not sure what the right solution is for
| cyberbullying, but at some point we'll probably have to figure it
| out.
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