[HN Gopher] Apple removes Grindr from the Chinese app store
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       Apple removes Grindr from the Chinese app store
        
       Author : cryoz
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2022-01-30 20:06 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (applecensorship.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (applecensorship.com)
        
       | 30140593 wrote:
       | Calling Grindr an "LGBTQ+ App" is a bit off the mark. It's a
       | hook-up app for gay men. Nothing wrong with that -- used it
       | myself back in the day, it's one of many -- but that moniker
       | seems needlessly fussy.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Since most people here know what Grindr is, we can easily fix
         | that in the title above.
        
       | pigsforpeace wrote:
        
         | dang wrote:
         | I don't see what's off topic about this article, although the
         | site might be a bit too tendentious to be a great HN source.
         | Not sure about that though.
         | 
         | Edit: Between your comment showing up in this thread and these
         | two previous posts:
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         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29755071
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203443
         | 
         | - it looks to me like you're trolling, so I've banned the
         | account.
         | 
         | If I've got that wrong and if you don't want to be banned,
         | you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason
         | to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're
         | here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
        
       | joemazerino wrote:
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Please don't take HN threads into ideological or nationalistic
         | flamewar. We're trying for curious conversation here, and
         | heated battle is not compatible with that. That's why the site
         | guidelines say:
         | 
         | " _Please don 't use Hacker News for political or ideological
         | battle. It tramples curiosity._"
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
           | joemazerino wrote:
           | Okay, removed.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | daveevad wrote:
       | Bonforte still CEO over there?
       | 
       | Oh to be a fly on the wall for that conference call.
        
       | rayiner wrote:
       | Apple is also lobbying against a bill that would target Chinese
       | slave labor:
       | https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-u....
       | And Disney is erasing Black characters from movie posters to
       | appease the Chinese: https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/asia/star-
       | wars-china-racist-p.... Meanwhile, they preach diversity and
       | inclusion here at home.
       | 
       | I'm not mad at a multinational corporation for doing whatever is
       | best for their bottom line. I'm not one of those Occupy Wall
       | Street types, but this pretense of social justice is deeply
       | concerning. Back in the day we had the giant amoral corporations
       | and the social justice advocates and they would duke it out in
       | the political arena. The public would balance the benefits of
       | corporations (jobs, more stuff, etc.) against social justice and
       | distributional concerns. But today, the giant amoral corporations
       | have coopted political movements for social justice by pretending
       | to join them.
       | 
       | The opposition has collapsed. You've got the party of Wall Street
       | and Silicon Valley, and the party of Mitch McConnell. Ideas that
       | had been the stock and trade of liberals, like opposing racism,
       | have been redefined and redeployed to stifle opposition to
       | globalism and giving away the store to China.
        
         | cloudfifty wrote:
         | Yeah, the US needs an anti-capitalist opposition that can see
         | through the PR. Like most European countries have.
         | 
         | Coopted is surely hyperbole though, as it suggests control,
         | more like riding the wave.
        
       | dirtyid wrote:
       | US forced PRC company to sell Grindr due to national security,
       | reasonable for PRC to ban US owned Grindr in return. Wonder if
       | it's easier to blackmail a gay PLA officer vs gay US forces
       | officer. Regardless, both cultures seem to still view
       | homosexuality as a national security liability.
        
       | throwaway22032 wrote:
       | My opinion:
       | 
       | Only one of the following is compatible with meaningful freedom:
       | 
       | 1) centralized networks with significant mindshare (e.g. the app
       | stores, Twitter, etc)
       | 
       | 2) those networks having the legal/technical ability to censor
       | material on their platforms
       | 
       | It's really one or the other. If you have both, then it's just a
       | matter of time until something you care about is pushed to the
       | margins.
        
       | mensetmanusman wrote:
       | With all the data leaks, I wonder if anyone will argue this as
       | protective action.
        
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