[HN Gopher] Dataset and Model for "I built a system to take phot...
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Dataset and Model for "I built a system to take photos of planes
over my house"
Author : yeldarb
Score : 105 points
Date : 2022-01-29 13:01 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (universe.roboflow.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (universe.roboflow.com)
| leipert wrote:
| I assume that one can triangulate the exact position of the house
| of the author from the pictures.
| ______ wrote:
| First time I've seen a .cam TLD, makes me think that they might
| be used a lot for phishing - without thinking I typed in
| skybot.com instead of "cam"
| z3c0 wrote:
| Feels like I'm saying the domain in a Cartman-esque accent.
| ryanmarsh wrote:
| What's with all the "Bank of <bank name> Trustee" jets?
| [deleted]
| _djo_ wrote:
| The US has a relatively weird structure where trusts are one of
| the best ways to meet the FAA's requirements for ownership
| while also hiding certain ownership details:
| https://www.hef.ru.nl/~pfk/aircraftGalleries/organisation-Ai...
|
| Most of the time you see it used is when a lessor has taken an
| aircraft back from an airline after the lease has ended for
| some reason, and it becomes a holding structure until the
| aircraft is leased again to another operator. The financials of
| airliner operation make it feasible for most airlines to have a
| mixed fleet of owned and leased aircraft.
|
| But in this case Wilmington Trust is a fairly large aircraft
| lessor in its own right:
| https://library.wilmingtontrust.com/corporate-institutional/...
| and
| https://centreforaviation.com/data/profiles/lessors/wilmingt...
|
| For instance here's an Airbus A350 that was used by LATAM, then
| returned to Wilmington during the COVID-19 drawdown of flying,
| and is being taken into service by Delta:
| https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a350-900-n982d...
|
| This is actually a flaw in the tracker's logic though, in that
| it's probably using an outdated data source that's still
| showing that intermediary registration holder rather than the
| current operator.
| citizenpaul wrote:
| Ultra rich people that hide their identities through anonymous
| bank entities. They are totally not the people that really rule
| the world rather than the politicians that most people think
| are in charge.
|
| Its also one of the reasons that despite private planes being
| one of the biggest contributors to climate change nothing will
| ever be done about it. Those rich people love their freedom to
| hop around anywhere in the world at a moments notice.
|
| Super cool project. I was thinking about doing something
| similar at one time but I was too lazy.
| bjterry wrote:
| I don't think that's right for all of them. I suspect it's
| the company that owns the lease or loan on a plane that's
| being financed. For example, the current first listing is an
| A319-112 with the number A997E5. According to PlaneFinder
| that's operated by American Airlines[0]. A lot of them are
| very large planes, which wouldn't really make sense for a
| private jet. Some are smaller, though, and are probably being
| financed by the ultra-wealthy.
|
| 0: https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/N717UW
| iso1210 wrote:
| > Its also one of the reasons that despite private planes
| being one of the biggest contributors to climate change
| nothing will ever be done about it.
|
| Aviation as a whole is responsible for 3.5% of climate change
| [0]
|
| So while the impact on a per-person is very high, it's a tiny
| amount compared to the mass impact of international shipping,
| heating, and even commercial planes.
|
| [0] https://research.noaa.gov/article/ArtMID/587/ArticleID/26
| 67/...
| dortlechortle wrote:
| No, ultra rich people hide their identities through a
| corporation, not a trust. When you purchase large capital
| items with a bank's help, the ownership usually looks like
| that. If you finance the aircraft as an ultra rich person,
| the ownership will probably also look like that. It's
| completely normal and is a large proportion of aircraft
| ownership structures. A double-digit percentage of pretty
| much all major carriers' fleets are titled in this way. Just
| like your payoff quote with your bank, when an airline
| finishes paying, the title is transferred. This arrangement
| will explain all but one or two of the trustees that will
| appear on this camera for the entire time it exists.
|
| So if your car is titled to a bank because you have a loan on
| it, would you say you're ultra rich and hiding your identity?
| I'm with you on the rah-rah eat the rich vibe but at least
| make sure you're shooting downrange.
| citizenpaul wrote:
| I've had the misfortune of being in banking much of my life
| and met many POS rich people that do this kind of stuff.
| Trust's most certainly can be used to hide your identity.
| Banks are more than willing to let rich people leave their
| names in the bank trust as a service to hide their
| identity. Trusts are not used as a financing product, they
| are a wealth management tool.
|
| I'll give you a challenge. Find another vehicle title that
| has "trust" on it other than a yacht or private jet. Time
| saver, you won't.
|
| It's to hide the owners identity. I don't know why people
| are arguing with me about this. Trust's are a wealth
| management tool that provide a number of services including
| hiding a persons identity.
| CommieBobDole wrote:
| You are correct that private jets are often owned by
| organizations including trusts in order to obscure their
| true ownership, but many of the jets on this site that
| are labeled as being owned by 'something something
| Trustee' are in fact commercial airliners owned and
| operated by major airlines, which seems to be pretty
| common. Here are some that I found in just a few seconds
| of clicking planes in the air over my own state on ADS-B
| Exchange:
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| https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N338DN
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| https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N330DX
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| https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N356FR
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| https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N324DX
| aingisni_del wrote:
| Both of you are making valid points, I don't get why
| either is seen as an argument. Your original comment was
| one with a strong sense of anger at the rich, and it is
| not misplaced. People and corporations hide their wealth
| with many different instruments, and one step to
| achieving equity would be to put all of this in the open.
| brianzelip wrote:
| Would love to tweak something like this to detect parcel delivery
| vehicles in our neighborhood. Anyone know of such a project they
| can link to?
| yeldarb wrote:
| I haven't seen one specifically for parcel delivery vehicles
| yet. Users have shared package[1] and vehicle[2] projects on
| Universe.
|
| You could likely use the car detection model as a base to
| collect photos and bootstrap a collection of delivery truck
| images. We're working on enabling users to contribute
| additional images to these datasets as well.
|
| Creating these custom detectors is what Roboflow is built for
| (and it's free if you open source the dataset you create for
| others to build off of).
|
| [1] https://universe.roboflow.com/joseph-nelson/packages-g0ton
| [2] https://universe.roboflow.com/roboflow-gw7yv/vehicles-
| openim...
| annoyingnoob wrote:
| Not sure about the detection part.. I setup a raspberry pi
| w/camera behind the peephole in my front door. I use the motion
| project[0] to do motion detection and recording of activity on
| my porch - the stream or photos from motion could be sent to
| some kind of detection (where presumably you'd train your own
| model from your own source photos of trucks or packages).
|
| [0] https://motion-project.github.io
| uomo wrote:
| Earlier discussion regarding "I built a system that takes
| pictures of all the airplanes that fly over my house":
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30039597
| anonymousiam wrote:
| Project Not Found
|
| Sorry, the overhead-plane-detector dataset does not exist, has
| been deleted, or is not shared with you.
| yeldarb wrote:
| Uh oh! Is this when trying to get the project info via our REST
| API (or pip package) for custom training?
|
| I'm working on getting that working with Universe shared
| projects ASAP but the Jupyter notebook link should work with
| our training notebooks in the meantime.
|
| Edit: I should mention that inference against the trained api
| on this project also should work A-Ok already.
| robertlagrant wrote:
| It's on Azure, so maybe it uses the same permissions nightmare
| as Teams.
| yeldarb wrote:
| Nah this is my my bad.
|
| Revamping the API Key permission logic to be aware that the
| person who created the project might not be the same person
| accessing it via API now that we have public sharing was a
| known "todo" that I deprioritized until users started running
| into it!
|
| Prioritizing now that there's actually some traffic
| discovering it.
| ballenf wrote:
| Could you listen the audio to detect the cargo load? At least
| within categories (light/middle/heavy)?
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