[HN Gopher] Nova - Erlang Web Framework
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       Nova - Erlang Web Framework
        
       Author : taure
       Score  : 107 points
       Date   : 2022-01-28 07:13 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (novaframework.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (novaframework.org)
        
       | mst wrote:
       | This might be great but the moving stars in the background meant
       | I had to close the tab before I could find out.
       | 
       | I'm sure the developers just thought it was pretty but _argh_.
       | 
       | (note that I am judging myself for posting a comment complaining
       | about a site design rather than anything meaningful but my visual
       | processing is still screwed up several minutes later and I dearly
       | hope somebody who reads this will avoid making the same mistake
       | later as a result because -ow-)
        
         | taure wrote:
         | Yes, I agree the page is less then good. We hope to get a new
         | version out soon.
         | 
         | Great to see all feedback and we will update the page.
        
         | ljm wrote:
         | A good use for the prefers-reduced-motion media query in CSS.
        
         | breakfastduck wrote:
         | I'm astonished that a few moving dots could impair anyones
         | vision.
         | 
         | I take it you totally avoid video games and film/tv? Because
         | they are much more intense.
        
           | olah_1 wrote:
           | every single post on hacker news has at least one comment
           | that completely ignores website content and critiques css /
           | web framework. it's just a given.
        
         | nozzlegear wrote:
         | I thought the same thing, it made me feel a tiny bit dizzy.
        
         | syspec wrote:
         | It could work if it was only on scroll,
        
       | m8s wrote:
       | This is purely conjecture on my part, but a beginner-friendly web
       | framework was a barrier for adoption for Erlang, and I'm really
       | excited to see Nova continue to grow.
       | 
       | If the moving background of the Nova website is so distracting
       | that you can't bare to explore the rest of the framework, here
       | are some other links to explore:
       | 
       | - HexDocs: https://hexdocs.pm/nova/quick-start.html
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       | - Github: https://github.com/novaframework/nova
       | 
       | - Erlang Forums: https://erlangforums.com/c/erlang-
       | frameworks/nova-forum/65
       | 
       | - Erlang Slack: https://erlef.org/slack-invite/erlanger
       | 
       | Long story short, get involved with Erlang (and Elixir)! They're
       | both awesome, can't recommend them enough.
        
         | taure wrote:
         | Thank you. If you have any questions it is only to reach out
         | and we try to help as much as possible.
        
       | crypt0x wrote:
       | As someone following beam stuff from a distance: why would I pick
       | this over elixir/Phoenix?
        
         | devoutsalsa wrote:
         | Presumably because you like Erlang.
        
         | m8s wrote:
         | Being blunt, if you're new to Beam, I'd probably choose Elixir
         | and Phoenix. But Elixir isn't for everyone, and if you prefer
         | Erlang's syntax or are interested in contributing to some of
         | the projects written specifically in Erlang, then that's what
         | you should pick.
         | 
         | Both are great, but I think Elixir is more beginner-friendly.
         | Through the course of learning one though, you'll inevitably
         | see some of the other, which is pretty cool. :)
        
         | taure wrote:
         | I would say run with Nova if you want to code Erlang. If you
         | want to code Elixir choose Phoenix. In the end both are based
         | on Cowboy.
         | 
         | We started to create Nova from the lack of frameworks on the
         | Erlang side. We wanted a fast way to start new web application
         | and start writing on your app instead of spending time on
         | setup.
         | 
         | Elixir have always had good tooling and framework from the
         | start.
        
       | vilkkala wrote:
       | One consulting company website is just a logo, another doesn't
       | exist.
        
       | RileyJames wrote:
       | Website looks good on iOS. Didn't notice the background.
       | 
       | I like the GitHub samples/demo repos.
       | 
       | Very cool, will consider this for the next api project. Heard
       | only good things about erlang/elixir ecosystem and keen to dive
       | in.
        
       | uo21tp5hoyg wrote:
       | Not a great front page for a framework:
       | 
       | - Website is plain HTTP, HTTPS doesn't seem to be supported. (or
       | is just taking a while to load?)
       | 
       | - Middle mouse / trackpad scrolling is slowed due to the
       | background animation.
       | 
       | - Reloading the page for some reason loads me 1/3 down the page?
       | 
       | - Button CSS (top right) is misaligned and jumps all over when
       | hovering over.
       | 
       | - Large white boxes with minimal padding makes everything look
       | empty.
       | 
       | - High CPU usage doing nothing (400% usage, I assume again due to
       | the background animation)
       | 
       | - It tries to load assets that don't exist. (stars.svg)
       | 
       | - No on-page examples, probably not that important though.
       | 
       | It's possible this framework is still great but I don't think it
       | will gain any traction if the first introduction to it is this
       | poor.
        
         | throwamon wrote:
         | > Reloading the page for some reason loads me 1/3 down the
         | page?
         | 
         | For some reason (probably related to the animation?) the page
         | starts with a huge margin at the bottom which then slowly gets
         | smaller and smaller.
        
         | michaelcampbell wrote:
         | No lag for me in scrolling <shrug>
        
         | taspeotis wrote:
         | RE: No HTTPS
         | 
         | Reminds me of the Elixir installer for Windows.
         | 
         | https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir-windows-setup/blob/a63...
        
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