[HN Gopher] Google relents: Legacy G Suite users will be able to...
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       Google relents: Legacy G Suite users will be able to migrate to
       free accounts
        
       Author : Shank
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2022-01-27 19:12 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | throw_away wrote:
       | Does this mean I could use something like the Cloudflare email
       | routing beta
       | 
       | https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/
       | 
       | & use my old custom domain like before + have a catchall on that
       | domain, while also maintaining my existing mail archive & google
       | purchases?
        
         | hammyhavoc wrote:
         | Yes.
        
       | adamrmcd wrote:
       | > Naturally, this move led to a huge outcry outside (and
       | apparently inside) Google, and now, the company seems to be
       | backing down from most of the harsher terms of the initial
       | announcement. [..] > the company is surprised by how many people
       | this change affected.
       | 
       | I would expect that this system is too complicated to simply run
       | `select count(*) from users where status = 'legacy'` but I'm
       | certain they knew exactly how many free-loading "businesses"
       | would be affected.
       | 
       | Too late for me, already started my migration to Fastmail.
       | 
       | The article does address paid content, which is good, but my
       | larger concern is still with my Cloud Identity. I've used my
       | custom domain under Google as authentication on hundreds of
       | third-party sites.
       | 
       | If i use this migration tool and move to @gmail.com, will third-
       | party sites still recognize and honour my custom domain Google
       | login credentials?
        
         | mattl wrote:
         | > If i use this migration tool and move to @gmail.com, will
         | third-party sites still recognize and honour my custom domain
         | Google login credentials?
         | 
         | I'd imagine so, as you can already have a Google account
         | without a Gmail address on your own domain name.
        
           | gvb wrote:
           | > I'd imagine so, as you can already have a Google account
           | without a Gmail address on your own domain name.
           | 
           | From the google "upgrade" page[1]
           | 
           | "This new option won't include premium features like custom
           | email"
           | 
           | so, no, having a google account without a gmail address will
           | no longer work unless you switch to google workspace (paid).
           | 
           | Logins using <name>@<custom-domain>.com will still work, but
           | if you need a password reset using email (very common), it
           | will fail unless you set your email up again with a different
           | email provider (e.g. fastmail).
           | 
           | [1] https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217#data&zippy=%2Ci
           | f-i...
        
             | dudus wrote:
             | You can add your custom domain as an alias on your free
             | Gmail account. That is my setup. Works perfectly.
        
               | comeonppl wrote:
               | Which is _absolutely_ not even remotely close to being
               | the same as your custom domain being a Google OAuth
               | provider. The question stands - hard to imagine how it
               | won 't require action on users' parts.
               | 
               | And even in the context of this thread, having a sending
               | alias doesn't magically make you able to check mail on a
               | domain you don't control... having a forward alias means
               | nothing in this context.
               | 
               | Examples:
               | 
               | * If anyone were using a paid Tailscale plan with a free
               | GSuite account, they're probably just hosed. I have no
               | idea how they're going to migrate short of Tailscale
               | extending their auth mechanisms.
               | 
               | * Anyone "logging in" with a custom domain email might
               | need to click a link to finish logging in. Unless your
               | GSuite admin migrates mail services manually, you're not
               | getting that email.
        
               | anotherman554 wrote:
               | Are you paying for email hosting on the custom domain and
               | forwarding the received emails to Gmail?
               | 
               | If so that doesn't really solve the problem of the
               | product no longer being free anymore, you now have to pay
               | for email hosting...
        
               | jonp888 wrote:
               | Google is entitled to stop offering a specific feature if
               | they want.
               | 
               | The problem was that they did not offer any migration
               | strategy for accounts that hat been created under the
               | free GSuite offer - it was either pay up, or have the
               | account and all associated ata be deleted across all
               | Google services.
        
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       | zeagle wrote:
       | Kudos to them for listening to users.
        
       | edsimpson wrote:
       | If there are other Simple Login / free G Suite users, please
       | upvote the github issue below. With Google providing a way to
       | migrate from G Suite to a normal Gmail account, SL is considering
       | adding SMTP access which would allow us to migrate an unlimited
       | amount of user / domains over. This would provide a cheap way to
       | forward / respond from our domain addresses while using a free
       | Gmail address. https://github.com/simple-
       | login/app/discussions/679
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Migration down or even laterally to another Suite domain account
       | is _very_ interesting if they manage to include everything in the
       | accounts. It was a huge nightmarish omission in the previous
       | annoucement.
        
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