[HN Gopher] California school kids must get Covid vaccine under ...
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California school kids must get Covid vaccine under new bill
Author : prostoalex
Score : 24 points
Date : 2022-01-24 22:03 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.latimes.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.latimes.com)
| vmception wrote:
| Bill dead in the water, even in the densest populated areas with
| the most government involvement, everyone knows the entire
| _current_ mitigation response is just performance theatre by now,
| it doesn 't have the fear or political support.
|
| The only point of this headline is for people that aren't in
| California to be presented with an article that matches what they
| already think about California.
|
| If it helps you to know, even in vaccine-passport municipalities
| most people are laughing at this, while they momentarily put on a
| cloth mask (that's useless against the omicron variant as nobody
| has n95's) at a crowded bar just to pass through the door.
|
| and for the others that had no idea life has been back to normal
| for quite some time, if you're in an at-risk population we are
| absolutely not in this together. its a completely parallel world.
| bruceb wrote:
| "State Sen. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) will announce Monday
| morning a bill to add COVID-19 vaccines to California's list of
| required inoculations for attending K-12 schools, a move that
| would override Gov. Gavin Newsom's scaled-back mandate from last
| year."
|
| Just to be clear this is a proposed bill. Lots of bills are
| proposed that don't even get voted on. Long way from becoming
| law.
| edmcnulty101 wrote:
| Seems like a reasonable bill to CA people, with a decent chance
| of being passed though right?
|
| Seems like most urban CA people would go for something like
| this.
|
| Help prevent spread of Covid with virtually no downside.
|
| I think it's a great idea.
| amscanne wrote:
| The previous mandate required the vaccine starting the
| semester after full approval. This mandates it regardless if
| it still under emergency use authorization. The latter
| strikes me as unreasonable.
| hammock wrote:
| This bill also would eliminate the personal belief
| exemption (possibly unconstitutional).
| encryptluks2 wrote:
| This would be like mandating flu vaccines for children. They
| are unnecessary for their age group, and not very effective
| against variants like Omicron.
| version_five wrote:
| > mandating flu vaccines
|
| One of my big fears is that this is coming. People have
| been emboldened and received very little pushback against
| forcing others to get the covid vaccine, and to prove it
| wherever they go. How long until we start hearing "flu
| vaccine saves lives, I have the right to know if someone
| around me isnt vaccinated, etc etc". I'm almost afraid to
| say it out loud, and I bet a lot of people here already
| support it.
|
| Childhood vaccination against Polio and the other big and
| previously debilitating childhood illnesses is nothing like
| mandating a covid vaccine, especially during a live event
| where the guidance and effectiveness is changing daily.
| onphonenow wrote:
| Damn, we've lost our mind in CA
|
| Banned visiting beaches during the early phases - you had to
| crowd into indoor spaces.
|
| What - actually - is the current death rate among children from
| this thing?
|
| I wish these stories would come with actual data. Any questioning
| of the traditional line - gets slammed down.
|
| Quick note - if they say sky is falling (ie, kids > 5 dying at
| high rates - mandatory vaccination or no school on an unapproved
| vaccine for this age group) but won't actually share the data
| despite the incredible high number of cases (ie, should be able
| to do some analysis by now) they are probably hiding something.
|
| "Still, among Omicron cases reported to TESSy, 1.14% were
| hospitalised, 0.16% required ICU admission/respiratory support,
| and 0.06% died" - https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-
| events/weekly-epidemiolog...
|
| Can anyone find an age based version of this?
| jjulius wrote:
| >Banned visiting beaches during the early phases - you had to
| crowd into indoor spaces.
|
| You mean the beaches that were closed during the same time they
| had banned large indoor gatherings?
| s1artibartfast wrote:
| Yes, and hiking trails
| ch4s3 wrote:
| > What - actually - is the current death rate among children
| from this thing?
|
| 835 total [1]
|
| [1] https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-
| Focus-...
| colechristensen wrote:
| Out of about 75 million.
| colechristensen wrote:
| In Minnesota, the first covid death for the 10-14 age group
| happened a few weeks ago.
|
| The death rate for school age children is very low.
|
| I think before anyone goes and decides if this vaccine deserved
| a mandate, they should decide conditions for which a vaccine
| should be considered for a mandate based on measured risks.
| What we're having now is emotionally and politically motivated.
| PragmaticPulp wrote:
| FYI, in case you don't have kids: A number of vaccines are
| already required for school children. If COVID continues to be a
| problem, it's not surprising at all that the vaccine will get
| added to those lists.
| baskethead wrote:
| Even members of the FDA panel that approved the vaccine for kids
| was against the idea of vaccine mandates for children, even
| though they approved it for use.
|
| https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/26/fda-panel-endorses-...
|
| "I'm just worried that if we say yes that the states are going to
| mandate administration of this vaccine to children in order to go
| to school, and I do not agree with that," he added. "I think that
| would be an error at this time until we get more information
| about the safety."
| crackercrews wrote:
| Seems weird that this applies equally to people who have already
| had COVID. Yes, you can get COVID a second time. But you can also
| get COVID after having had a vaccine, or three.
|
| There are other required vaccinations. But those are for
| illnesses that virtually no kid actually gets. By next school
| year, probably 3/4 of all kids will have had COVID.
| hellisothers wrote:
| > But those are for illnesses that virtually no kid actually
| gets...
|
| Because everybody has been vaccinated and we've reached heard
| immunity? Maybe we'll get there one day with Covid, if
| everybody will get vaccinated.
| errthrht wrote:
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