[HN Gopher] Show HN: A Wordle for the command line (Spanish and ...
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Show HN: A Wordle for the command line (Spanish and English)
Author : flyingpumba
Score : 27 points
Date : 2022-01-22 15:30 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| ilimilku wrote:
| Great, but it's buggy. I guessed the correct word (nancy), but it
| rejected it. Perhaps there is something wrong with the
| capitalization.
| bryceneal wrote:
| Neat! One thing that has interested me about this game is whether
| or not there is an optimal first word. Is there is a word that
| contains the 5 letters which most commonly appear in the
| language? Preferably where more of the letters appear at their
| most common index? If so it seems one should use this word as the
| first guess each time given we have no other information other
| than the length of the word.
| MattRix wrote:
| Someone who wrote a solver said the optimal starting word is
| ROATE, since it had a bunch of vowels etc.
| gpvos wrote:
| The order of letters in the guess word may also be relevant, to
| give you as much information as possible (green is better than
| yellow; there may be branches in the search tree where twice
| the same letter in a word is advantageous).
| jvm___ wrote:
| RSTLNE are the letters people use for the final game in wheel
| of fortune. I'd assume a word made of those letters would be
| pretty good.
|
| I use one that involves your eyes, but there are probably
| others.
| MattRix wrote:
| Those letters are probably the best if you're limited to a
| single vowel, but there are vowels that are more common than
| some of those letters. As I posted in another comment, I saw
| someone who wrote a solver say that the optimal starting word
| is ROATE.
| GranPC wrote:
| There's been a lot of research into finding the optimal
| strategy to beat Wordle; I've avoided reading up on them so far
| because I enjoy the process of casually figuring it out with my
| friends, but I think many of them have been posted to this
| forum.
| rgovostes wrote:
| There have been a few attempts to answer this.
|
| One approach is to look at which guess, averaging across all
| answer words, gets the most hits. You'd expect a word that uses
| several of the most common letters ETAOIN etc. This helps you
| quickly discover letters that appear in the answer. Using this
| strategy, a common first guess is SOARE, explained here:
|
| https://bert.org/2021/11/24/the-best-starting-word-in-wordle...
|
| Missed letters provide information as well, though. Instead of
| optimizing for the most green/yellow hits, you could divide the
| entire solution space by the 3^5 possible green/yellow/gray
| patterns generated by the initial guess. Which initial guess
| divides most evenly, so you can reliably eliminate 99% of the
| possible answers? That would be ROATE, explained here:
|
| https://medium.com/@tglaiel/the-mathematically-optimal-first...
|
| Note that ROATE and SOARE are very similar to one another.
| There are 729 T's in the Wordle wordlist and 669 S's, so ROATE
| seems like the slightly better answer.
|
| (If going by the first strategy, why SOARE and not ROATE if
| there are more T's? Probably because there are 3x as many words
| that start with S than R in the list, so it optimizes towards
| locking in the first letter.)
| gpvos wrote:
| I usually keep ETAOIN SHRDLU in mind. ATONE would be a good
| one. It shouldn't really be too hard to exhaustively calculate
| an optimal strategy for the complete list of five-letter words;
| my /usr/share/dict/words has only 6806 of them.
|
| Edit: for all the five-letter words in the above list, the
| order of frequency is ESAROILTNDUCYMPHBGKFWVZJXQ. Wordle has a
| different list.
| pshc wrote:
| A word with three vowels to start would probably give many
| tells
| banana_giraffe wrote:
| oater, orate, or roate are probably the optimal first
| selections. Given Wordle's word list, they let you make the
| largest prunes the list of possible answers.
| GranPC wrote:
| Cool! Linking to the dictionary definition of the word is a nice
| touch :)
| gbolcer wrote:
| Fun, but hard to play on command line versus Web app. Also,
| gradlew complained of the enie on line 76 for some reason.
| japhib wrote:
| Cool! I'd recommend tweaking the dictionary a bit though ... here
| are the first 5 words in the English one:
|
| aahed aalii aargh abaca abaci
|
| I don't think I would ever think of putting in any of those
| words, so if that was the solution, I'd just be stuck. (Are they
| actually real words?)
| powersnail wrote:
| Apparently, aahed is the past tense of aah.
| [webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/aahed)
|
| Edit: typo
| gullywhumper wrote:
| The list of acceptable wordle words is available. I'm sure
| someone else has made the effort to make it a little more
| accessible.
|
| view-
| source:https://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle/main.e65ce0a5.js
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