[HN Gopher] Campbell Soup turned New Jersey into a tomato-growin...
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       Campbell Soup turned New Jersey into a tomato-growing state
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2022-01-18 03:42 UTC (19 hours ago)
        
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       | cwal37 wrote:
       | Perhaps similar, the US doesn't harvest a ton of eggplants, but
       | of eggplant producing states New Jersey is #1 in terms of
       | acreage. About 20% more acres than the #2 state of California.
       | I've idly wondered in the past if it's a cultural artifact as the
       | distribution of acreage in the US is New jersey, then CA, then
       | FL/GA, so some pretty different climates, so this article is
       | interesting!
        
         | AlgorithmicTime wrote:
        
         | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
         | Also cranberries. New Jersey was the world capital for
         | cranberry production with the headquarters of Ocean Spray
         | juices.
        
           | InfiniteRand wrote:
           | Does our state smell like urine? Yes, yes it does, clean
           | bacteria-free urine
           | 
           | https://www.cc.com/video/u11ezi/the-daily-show-with-jon-
           | stew...
        
             | c0balt wrote:
             | Argh, I got geoblocked. Only for the USA?
        
         | xeromal wrote:
         | This is just a wild guess, but New Jersey had/has a large
         | population of Italian immigrants and I believe eggplant is a
         | pretty popular ingredient in Italian dishes. I'm sure that
         | drove some of the demand.
        
           | dfxm12 wrote:
           | That would cover farms selling to local buyers (restaurants,
           | super markets and direct to consumer), but that's a tiny part
           | of the market. Most are going to wholesale distributors &
           | production on this level would need more of an explanation
           | than that. New Jersey is nicknamed the garden state for a
           | reason. Despite it's population density, it's got a ton of
           | farm land and grows a lot of food for the NA east coast &
           | beyond. I'd guess that they found a niche where eggplants
           | grow well in NJ soil/climates and probably catch more at
           | market than other alternative crops.
        
           | fedreserved wrote:
        
         | madcaptenor wrote:
         | Hard to see it as a cultural artifact, though, because those
         | are also pretty different places culturally. (As it happens
         | I've lived in New Jersey, California, and Georgia.)
        
           | cwal37 wrote:
           | Ah, I meant in New jersey specifically as its climate feels
           | like more of an outlier to me in that list.
        
             | madcaptenor wrote:
             | I can see that, maybe if you figure that Italian-Americans
             | eat more eggplant than the average American?
        
       | dec0dedab0de wrote:
       | I live about 10 minutes from the Campbell's headquaters. Every
       | one I know has grown tomatoes at least once in their life. As a
       | kid I remember my cousins having the "Campbell's tomato seeds" as
       | if it were a big secret. This was before we had the internet to
       | just look this stuff up.
        
         | bobthepanda wrote:
         | I mean, the knowledge that Campbell's invested in agriculture
         | research and went as far as breeding its own varieties of
         | tomatoes is not really common knowledge. So in that sense it is
         | a bit of a thing to have the Campbell's seeds, since they were
         | never sold for other people to grow on their own.
         | 
         | Tomatoes are a very easy plant to grow, which explains the
         | prevalence.
        
       | quercusa wrote:
       | When I had only been around NYC and the Newark airport, I used to
       | laugh at the license plates that said "New Jersey - The Garden
       | State". But South Jersey is an amazingly lush and productive farm
       | area.
        
         | cpascal wrote:
         | It is really a shame that most people's experience of NJ is
         | only the Turnpike and the refineries around EWR.
        
           | thehappypm wrote:
           | Imagine if every state was judged on its character for the
           | aesthetic of the area by its airport and highways. NJ gets a
           | horrible rap! It's a beautiful state in so many places.
        
             | MrApathy wrote:
             | Shhh, quiet on the NJ-is-nice front, please. NJ doesn't
             | need more people, let's all pretend the bad rap is true.
        
               | toast0 wrote:
               | It's ok, I could never live in NJ, I want to pump my own
               | gas and turn left.
        
               | reaperducer wrote:
               | And get a free bobblehead with a minimum eight-gallon
               | purchase.
               | 
               | When I lived in New Jersey, the gas stations in New York
               | would offer spiffs with a fill-up, and there was always a
               | disclaimer "offer not valid in New Jersey," which made it
               | seem like the spiff wasn't available at all in New
               | Jersey. For those who knew, the rule was actually that
               | gas companies couldn't _require_ a minimum purchase to
               | get the spiff in New Jersey, so if you knew what you were
               | doing, you could put a gallon in and still get whatever
               | the free item was.
               | 
               | But I haven't lived in New Jersey since gas was priced in
               | C/, and not $.
        
               | QuercusMax wrote:
               | What do you mean by "spiff" here? Google doesn't give me
               | any clues, and the only Spiff I know of (as opposed to
               | the word "spiffy", meaning well-dressed) is Calvin and
               | Hobbes' Spaceman Spiff.
        
               | AutumnCurtain wrote:
               | A spiff is a free giveaway attached to a sale,
               | historically a bonus for salespeople for making the sale
               | but colloquially also for customers getting a freebie
               | item with a purchase.
        
               | hw-guy wrote:
               | I always thought it was a joint (what the New York Times
               | calls a marijuana cigarette).
        
               | reaperducer wrote:
               | Also used to describe anything given away for free by
               | salesfolk hoping to land a sale.
               | 
               | Think of the big bags of crap that used to be given away
               | at CES, or when a Microsoft rep would show up in the
               | office and hand everyone new mouse pads.
        
               | thehappypm wrote:
               | What's the "turn left" thing you're referencing? I'm from
               | Morris County and have no idea what you mean.
        
               | vbhavsar wrote:
               | The prevalence of jughandles in the state.
        
               | dfxm12 wrote:
               | I think you're good. Everyone I know in both tri-state
               | areas who think of moving to Jersey largely complain
               | about the property taxes & stay put.
        
         | r_klancer wrote:
         | The northern part of the Turnpike corridor and the Sopranos
         | give a misleading picture of the whole state.
         | 
         | My grandfather was a South Jersey farm boy who grew up to
         | become a professor of entomology in the Rutgers ag school by
         | the 1930s. He saw the postwar suburban expansion eat up much of
         | that farmland first hand in his work with the ag extension
         | program's pest control officers, and he often lamented how much
         | first-rate farmland was being "wasted" growing a crop of
         | houses.
        
         | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
         | Not so much anymore. That really changed from the late 70s
         | onward with tremendous development of suburbs and very little
         | protection. The word "open space" hadn't enter the collective
         | conscious yet.
         | 
         | The drive east/west between Philadelphia and Atlantic City
         | before the Atlantic City Expressway was mostly all farm, pine
         | forest, and farm stands. The pine forests are still there (the
         | ones that were state forests, anyway), but not the farms and
         | not the pine forests that were on private land.
        
           | sparcpile wrote:
           | US-40 from I-95 to Atlantic City is still very rural. When I
           | lived in the DC area, I would take US-40 from I-95 to go the
           | FAA's Technical Center at the Atlantic City airport because
           | it was nicer drive and you get to see interesting sites.
           | 
           | Among them:
           | 
           | 1. The Cowtown Rodeo in Woodstown, NJ with the giant cowboy
           | statue at the cowboy supply store across the street.
           | 
           | 2. An ancient Radio Shack store
           | 
           | 3. Many road-side fruit and lunch stands.
           | 
           | 4. A car repair shop with a painted stack of tires.
           | 
           | 5. A store named 'Ted's Taxidermy' across the street from an
           | airpark in Buena, NJ.
           | 
           | (edited for formatting)
        
           | reaperducer wrote:
           | _The word "open space" hadn't enter the collective conscious
           | yet._
           | 
           | I guess you've never heard of the Pine Barrens --
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Barrens_(New_Jersey)
           | 
           | 1,100,000 acres of forested land, most of it preserved by the
           | federal government for emergency use. In the event of a
           | catastrophe, it contains 17,000,000,000,000 (that's 17
           | trillion, with a "T") gallons of the most pure water in the
           | nation.
        
             | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
             | I know them very well. And they were never called "open
             | space". They were called state forests.
        
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