[HN Gopher] History of Pepper
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       History of Pepper
        
       Author : graderjs
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2022-01-14 19:49 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | Bud wrote:
       | As an aside, if anyone is looking for an absolutely insane pepper
       | mill, get the Mannkitchen Pepper Cannon. You will never need
       | another one. It's a big solid hunk of aluminum, stainless steel
       | burrs, and puts out 5-10x the amount that other mills do per
       | crank. Easier to adjust fineness of grind than any other mill out
       | there. Evenness of grind is also superior.
       | 
       | It has changed my entire life in the kitchen.
        
         | nefitty wrote:
         | Wow, it's available for only $199 at
         | https://mannkitchen.com/pages/pepper-cannon
         | 
         | "But, will there be too much pepper?"
         | 
         | "No. There will be the exact amount of pepper you want, ground
         | more consistently, in a fraction of the time."
        
         | hammock wrote:
         | A similar pepper mill, made in the USA (not China) for a lower
         | price:
         | 
         | Unicorn Mills Magnum ($59) http://www.unicornmills.org/magnum-
         | plus.html
         | 
         | I have not tested either, though I have heard of the
         | Mannkitchen Pepper Cannon and from what I know it is probably
         | the best one you can get if you are not concerned with price.
         | We are talking high-volume output, only one or two pumps needed
         | per dish. Or as they say in the marketing, "Pepper your steak
         | in 7 cranks instead of 70." Comparison video:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25IO6GJ3zfg
         | 
         | Of course, the classic pepper mill is the Peugeot Paris,
         | available here in every size from 3 inches to 30 inches (don't
         | buy from Amazon, there are a bunch of counterfeits):
         | https://us.peugeot-saveurs.com/en_us/paris-mills
         | 
         | I did a bunch of pepper mill research not too long ago - AMA.
        
       | cosmotic wrote:
       | "Known Medicinal Uses: Pepper is an important ingredient in
       | Ayurvedic, Chinese, Unani"
       | 
       | Those are _not_ medicinal uses.
        
         | news_to_me wrote:
         | They are, they're just not mainstream medicine.
        
           | drsnow wrote:
           | Mainstream in this case meaning legitimate.
        
           | cosmotic wrote:
           | If we allow for 'not mainstream medicine', why then are they
           | stopping at those three? Why not include the spells and
           | potions that might include pepper? Why not the treatments you
           | or I could just make up on the spot in a work of fiction? If
           | we expand the definition of medicine to include nonsense, the
           | term would lose all meaning. As a society we demand medicine
           | be 'things proven to work' and all those things they list are
           | not part of that set; they have not been proven to work, and
           | thus not included in 'medicine'. If they were in fact proven
           | to work, they would simply be part of mainstream medicine.
        
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       | peter303 wrote:
       | "The spice must flow" has this historic antecedent. At times
       | pepper's taste, preservative, alleged health value and price was
       | off the scale, not unlike Dune spice.
        
         | johnhenry wrote:
         | Inhale enough pepper and things get crazy, not unlike Dune
         | spice.
        
         | unwind wrote:
         | Are you sure pepper has preservative properties? Any
         | link/reference would be appreciated, I hadn't heard of that
         | before. A quick check of Wikipedia didn't find anything either.
        
           | jasone wrote:
           | I recall reading about spice being used to mask the flavor of
           | food starting to go bad. It's not a preservative function,
           | rather it allows people to eat poor-tasting-but-not-yet-
           | poisonous food.
        
           | caseyohara wrote:
           | From the linked article:
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           | As a Preservative: The value of pepper as a natural
           | preservative for meat and other perishable foods has been
           | known for centuries. Studies have shown that this is due to
           | the anti-oxidant and anti-microbial properties present in
           | pepper.
        
       | sfifs wrote:
       | One interesting side note is that in the land of origin of pepper
       | in India, to a very large extent Chilli has replaced pepper as
       | the spiciness creating ingredient in most household and
       | restaurant dishes. Chillies of course come from Mexico and are
       | another colonial import. Pepper is now used only in a very few
       | mostly traditional Indian dishes.
        
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