[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Which games do you recommend to improve thin...
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       Ask HN: Which games do you recommend to improve thinking and
       reasoning?
        
       Computer games, board games, etc. are accepted.
        
       Author : behnamoh
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-01-12 22:02 UTC (58 minutes ago)
        
       | jolen33 wrote:
       | Set
        
       | zagrebian wrote:
       | I just started playing "7 billion humans" on Switch. It's like a
       | simple programming language. You are given tasks that you have to
       | complete by drag-and-dropping statements and commands into the
       | code area to form a simple program, and then you run your program
       | and observe if it's successful. There's even a debugger button
       | for stepping through the code. It's quite entertaining.
        
       | bdz wrote:
       | Mahjong. Only playing for a few years but quickly became my
       | favorite board game ever (I play japanese riichi). Randomness and
       | luck involved but also pattern recognition, reading the opponents
       | hand, and of course the multiple strategies involved. There are a
       | lot of rules that seems very complicated in the beginning but
       | it's not hard to pick up as long as you understand the core
       | concept of the game. And there are great video game versions too
       | which makes it easier to learn and play if you don't have anyone
       | to play with irl.
        
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       | uejfiweun wrote:
       | I really like playing "Immersive Sim" games (aka Prey, System
       | Shock, Deus Ex, etc) because they generally have really tough
       | combat but open ended gameplay. This means you must think very
       | carefully about every encounter to come out on top.
        
       | ortusdux wrote:
       | Into the Breach - turn based strategy where you know what the AI
       | plans to do on their next turn. The same studio made FTL, which I
       | also highly recommend.
        
       | dogprez wrote:
       | I thought the idea that games can improve thinking and reasoning
       | was debunked? Dedicating your life to chess doesn't mean they can
       | put you in the general's chair and you'll be a military genius,
       | just means you'll be good at chess.
        
       | sandruso wrote:
       | Game of thrones board game - fun, negotiation, persuation and
       | strategy in one package. There is variaty of strategies how to
       | win and each requires interaction between players. The best
       | moments were about reasoning why to everybody should ally with
       | you instead of others.
        
         | Bromeo wrote:
         | One of the most fun board games I've played, but it does take a
         | while and requires like five players or so.
        
           | FabioBertone wrote:
           | Its grandfather in the boardgames family is Diplomacy, that
           | can be played by 2+ people.
           | 
           | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_(game)
           | 
           | Be warned, you can ruin friendships with this game
        
       | pacifika wrote:
       | Good Sudoku
        
       | nicklaf wrote:
       | Any DOS adventure game from the 90s that maliciously threw
       | impossible puzzles at you on a whim with no hints.
       | 
       | The Dig is a fun one.
        
       | nvusuvu wrote:
       | Boardgames: Hanabi, The Voyages of Marco Polo, Innovation,
       | Splendor ( I play all these at boardgamearena.com) Hanabi is
       | especially good for logic, deduction.
        
       | anduru_h wrote:
       | This might be a captain obvious-type answer...but have you
       | thought about Chess?
        
       | daveevad wrote:
       | Settlers of Catan taught me not to trust anyone, ever.
        
       | OMGWTF wrote:
       | The Witness
        
         | jmcphers wrote:
         | Of all the games I've played (which admittedly isn't many), the
         | Witness felt the most like an IQ test.
        
       | askafriend wrote:
       | Hitman 3 - many many many of ways to complete missions and
       | engages creativity in really cool ways while being immersive and
       | still fun / free form.
        
       | xsmasher wrote:
       | Any Zachtronics game.
       | 
       | "Human Resource Machine" and "7 Billion Humans"
        
       | comprev wrote:
       | Portal
       | 
       | The Turing Test
        
       | erezsh wrote:
       | Prismata is a little known online card game with very simple
       | rules but it's incredibly hard to master.
       | 
       | The community is pretty small, but active enough that you can
       | usually find an opponent if you wait a few minutes. (But try to
       | beat the computer first, it's hard enough!)
        
       | rurp wrote:
       | Project Euler is fun for anyone who likes logic puzzles. I
       | enjoyed working on those problems as I was just learning to code,
       | and some (maybe many?) can be solved without writing code.
       | 
       | A few friends of mine who don't have any formal math or comp sci
       | experience have had fun on the site as well.
        
       | cft wrote:
       | Go. Rules are much simpler than chess, but it took computers much
       | longer to beat humans.
        
       | rainpl wrote:
       | Texas Hold'em
        
         | motohagiography wrote:
         | Seconded. Poker is a generally applicable set of life skills,
         | imo.
        
       | Bostonian wrote:
       | IQ can be reduced through maltreatment, but in general we don't
       | know how to increase IQ. Higher IQ people are more likely to play
       | chess, but playing chess does not raise IQ. So just play the
       | games you enjoy.
       | 
       | "Most people think playing chess makes you 'smarter', but the
       | evidence isn't clear on that"
       | https://phys.org/news/2019-07-people-chess-smarter-evidence-... .
        
       | RicoElectrico wrote:
       | Factorio if you're into engineering planning, or maybe community
       | test chambers of Portal 2 for puzzles that can be picked up
       | readily.
        
       | jgon wrote:
       | I think something like DOTA would be up there, if only because of
       | the immense state space that you have the game and the ability to
       | use your superior understanding of those options to come out
       | ahead of your opponents. Raw mechanics are important at the
       | highest levels, but you can get a lot of mileage through "out
       | thinking" your opponents in draft, in itemization, and in general
       | strategic decisions about what to do, where and when.
        
       | palijer wrote:
       | 5d chess with multiverse time travel.
       | 
       | https://www.5dchesswithmultiversetimetravel.com/
        
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