[HN Gopher] Cryptoland [video]
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Cryptoland [video]
Author : eisa01
Score : 95 points
Date : 2022-01-09 20:33 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| trhway wrote:
| a shark shaped island and a "Vladimir Club" in the center! Looks
| like an opening of a Hawaiian themed Snatch. Vladimir dressed in
| lei will come personally to break your legs.
|
| If to expand the target audience beyond the crypto toward all the
| youngish and hip - well it looks like the Metaverse that FB wants
| to put the world into, no real island required.
| noasaservice wrote:
| Eww. And I thought a climate destroying ponzi grift was bad
| enough... And then there's this tirefire?
|
| Hopefully a hurricane will sweep 6mo in and wipe this out.
| cinntaile wrote:
| Regardless of what you think about crypto, wishing people to
| lose their homes and potentially lives is morally questionable
| don't you think?
| riffic wrote:
| wishes aren't magic. There's a difference, morally, between
| doing someone harm and a desire for someone to be harmed.
| cinntaile wrote:
| How is the moral difference between wishing and doing
| relevant? It doesn't help determine if wishing something
| bad can be morally questionable, which was my claim that
| you disagree(?) with.
| walrus01 wrote:
| this reminds me of the crypto/seasteading bros who tried to buy a
| cruise ship
|
| https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voya...
|
| https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship
|
| cryptoland, more like grift-o-land
| mirekrusin wrote:
| This is a joke, right?
| woodruffw wrote:
| Weird sub-communities and ballpits (timestamp 5:05) are not a
| famously good combination.
| Nextgrid wrote:
| https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/dashcon ?
| slg wrote:
| Here[1] is an article with more details. One worrying detail is
| that whoever runs the Cryptoland Twitter account "joking" about
| the age of consent being the age of "mental maturity". It is
| always interesting what laws these people prioritize changing.
|
| [1] - https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-
| invest...
| [deleted]
| Hamuko wrote:
| The official response to the age of consent thing was that they
| didn't know what "age of consent" means:
| https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480231356848349192
|
| They've also sent a C&D to someone:
| https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
| slg wrote:
| That excuse makes no sense. There is no "age allowed" to
| enter "any other place, like a restaurant, a resort or an
| amusement park". Those places all let in babies and I assume
| Cryptoland would too. Also how does that explain the winking
| emoticon?
| TigeriusKirk wrote:
| You'd assume they'd be subject to the laws of whatever country
| that island is in. One thing you can be certain of is that no
| country is ceding any territory for them to form their own
| nation.
| jsheard wrote:
| The island they are eyeing is Nananu-i-cake in Fiji:
| https://www.privateislandsonline.com/south-
| pacific/fiji/nana...
|
| It's at least a real island that's really for sale, but
| Cryptolands renders present it as being freestanding in the
| ocean rather than right next to the mainland as it is in
| reality
| rzzzt wrote:
| Crypto crypto crypto! Say it enough times and it loses all
| meaning.
| justinator wrote:
| ZOMBO!
| dqpb wrote:
| I can no longer tell what is real and what is satire.
| amyjess wrote:
| The Cryptoland Twitter account also endorsed pedophilic grooming:
| https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832
|
| Transcript:
|
| > Q: what will the age of consent be in Cryptoland?
|
| > A: Mental maturity should be more than enough! :)
|
| Cryptoland is either tasteless performance art or a disaster
| waiting to happen.
| [deleted]
| eisa01 wrote:
| Featured in FT Alphaville today. Is this real? Feels like FYRE
| 2.0
|
| https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449...
|
| https://cryptoland.is/
| cinntaile wrote:
| They have a quote by Carlos Matos, from BitConnect fame. "We
| are changing the world as we know it."
|
| lol
|
| Probably fake.
| arcticbull wrote:
| Matos found out they mentioned him in the video. He tweeted
| his displeasure. Trying to find it...
| walrus01 wrote:
| for something fake clearly _somebody, somewhere_ put a lot of
| time into doing the 3D modeling and animation. seems like a
| bit too much effort for satire.
| jacoblambda wrote:
| That's because it basically is. I'm pretty involved in the
| cryptocurrency space and I haven't found a single person
| outside of the memecoin get rich types (see "Shiba Army") that
| thinks this is a good idea or seriously viable in any real way.
|
| Honestly I can do nothing but hope that the craze around
| cryptocurrency dies down so that these types go back to other
| get rich quick schemes and leave the actual researchers,
| engineers, and developers to their work.
| jmspring wrote:
| They eventually removed the request, but there was a group
| that wanted to create a blockchain utopia (smartcity) north
| of Reno, Nevada.
|
| https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/blockchai.
| ..
| cblconfederate wrote:
| why was it removed?
| mwattsun wrote:
| It was marked as unlisted, then Molly White (@molly0xFFF) got
| ahold of it and started making fun of it. That's how I found
| out about it. Now Cryptoland is threatening Molly with legal
| action
|
| https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1479974074986209286
|
| Edit: She has another site that is very cool: "Web3 is going
| just great" consisting of a daily update of the latest rugpulls
| and other frauds
|
| https://web3isgoinggreat.com/
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| Her response to that is gold.
|
| > "cease and decease"
|
| > I have removed all the false information
| cblconfederate wrote:
| I thought it was a prank?
|
| And that c&d looks faked
| mwattsun wrote:
| It feels like that way to me but it's hard to tell these
| days. Possibly a good example of Poe's law
| riffic wrote:
| "cease and decease". omg, what a bunch of hacks
|
| https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
| sundarurfriend wrote:
| > Mirror of the Cryptoland presentation that its creators seem to
| be trying to wipe from the Internet for some reason.
|
| "for some reason" I wonder why! I'd love to see the comments they
| got on YouTube.
|
| This seems such a ridiculously obvious "let's cash in on the gold
| rush" attempt, and Poe's law started hitting me hard when it came
| to the animated sections. But of course it's the crypto space, so
| of course it's a real thing!
| tomerv wrote:
| The full cartoon video is still on the official channel:
| https://youtu.be/jf3ajS5me78
| buildbuildbuild wrote:
| 319 ETH per acre. ($1mil USD today)
|
| I'm struggling to find a way to constructively criticize. Project
| aside, the video is not at all professional to a western
| audience. (watch all of it, I dare you)
|
| It's stylistically tone-deaf for their target market, grift
| notwithstanding. Who decided that real estate investors need a
| cartoon? At least Fyre's promo content felt "cool."
| repomies69 wrote:
| Why not try your luck, some crypto ppl who have gotten recently
| rich might buy such shit.
| tcgv wrote:
| I watched all of it. The video quality is subpar indeed, and
| they claim it took one year to complete. Their "vision" is
| biased towards people that value "to party" and "to ostentate".
| It seems like a crypto funded thematic beach resort venture,
| possibly led by a team without real experience in the
| hospitality industry.
| Speednet wrote:
| I don't think I'd be so gentle. It is one of the most cringe-
| worthy things I've seen in quite some time. Makes the crypto
| space seem like it's entirely inhabited by morons and fools.
| nvr219 wrote:
| Where's the lie
| walrus01 wrote:
| if your industry segment is populated with a theoretical 5 to
| 10% of vociferous morons and fools, it tends to paint
| everyone else with the same brush.
| micromacrofoot wrote:
| 5-10% is very generous
| perihelions wrote:
| It could be deliberate. An unprofessional pitch shrinks the
| buyer pool, but by repelling scam-savvy people it
| *concentrates* that pool with vulnerable people, increasing the
| conversion rate. This is useful if the scammers need to devote
| a lot of individualized attention on each target.
|
| HN had threads discussing this concept (in the context of 419
| scams, I think); I don't remember how to find them. Those have
| enormous attrition rate between the initial contact, and the
| "walk into a bank and wire your life savings" step.
|
| edit: They discussed a Microsoft researcher's article about
| scam emails (thanks, walrus01):
|
| https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/why-do-...
| ( _" Why Do Nigerian Scammers Say They are From Nigeria?"_)
| [2012]
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?query=why%20nigerian%20scammers&type...
| walrus01 wrote:
| I think you may be referring to the following:
|
| https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/why-
| do-...
|
| https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/82814/secretly-smart-
| rea...
|
| by immediately weeding out the skeptical, they can focus
| their direct person-hours of communication back and forth
| labor setting up the scam on the most vulnerable and
| guillible.
| perihelions wrote:
| That's the one. The Cormac Herley / Microsoft article
| inspired lots of threads,
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?query=why%20nigerian%20scammers&typ
| e...
| pm90 wrote:
| Unfortunately a lot of people are gonna get scammed. This has
| happened so many times... I'm a bit surprised financial
| regulators aren't cracking down on it just yet.
|
| At this point there's not much to do but
| rg111 wrote:
| > I'm a bit surprised financial regulators aren't cracking down
| on it just yet
|
| Financial regulators are government agencies supervised the
| government i.e. the lawmakers.
|
| As Tesla, and big banks have thrown millions and billions into
| crypto, don't you think that they will do everything in their
| power to keep this hype alive?
| b1n wrote:
| I'm about half way through this, and I honestly can't tell
| whether it's satire or not. If real, this could be the "The Room"
| [1] of pitches. Just waiting for it to turn into a Lord of the
| Flies type situation.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room
| gfd wrote:
| What's with crypto and tropical escapes?
|
| FTX moved their headquarters to the Bahamas and now they are
| trying to build it into a crypto-hub too:
| https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sdjcH7KAxgB328RAb/...
| simlevesque wrote:
| "Proof of work gym"
| dymk wrote:
| This legitimately clever joke buried in the middle of a
| horrendous video makes it even funnier
| notfed wrote:
| Looks like a great place to host the next Fyre festival.
| ConanRus wrote:
| riffic wrote:
| Nice to see PeerTube out in the wild.
|
| PeerTube is a software application that implements the
| interoperable social networking standard, ActivityPub:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube
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| What this means is if you have an account anywhere on this
| network, say a Mastodon account, you can interact with the video
| directly. It's a system that works a lot like how email addresses
| work (that is, a _federated_ social web).
|
| last note: The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be
| associated with the _web3_ space. Pretty much because it is a
| system that works, and web3 is just a space for schmucks.
| paulgb wrote:
| It would be a fun irony if web3 _does_ succeed in pushing
| society beyond the centralization of web2, but only because it
| pushes people to use the federated systems we already have to
| overcome censorship when making fun of web3 stuff.
| rsynnott wrote:
| > The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with
| the web3 space
|
| The funny thing is, ActivityPub is vaguely under the banner of
| the Semantic Web. Which, at one time, was sometimes called,
| semi-jokingly... Web 3.0.
| [deleted]
| bawolff wrote:
| Wtf did i just watch.
|
| This has got to be someone trolling, right?
|
| If you didn't watch the whole thing, make sure to at least watch
| the animated section.
| mirekrusin wrote:
| I don't know what's happening, people are paying tons of money
| for hashes of jpegs, honestly can't tell it's 50/50 from my
| pov.
| [deleted]
| yawaworht1978 wrote:
| For a good laugh on this matter, I recommend reading this.
|
| https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/
|
| The level of incompetency and ironical jokes is overwhelming.
| pcwalton wrote:
| Ironically given the benefits that the cryptocurrency ecosystem
| supposedly brings to artists, this promotional material contains
| stolen IP from at least one independent artist [1]. Cryptoland's
| response was to block the victim [2].
|
| [1]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083
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| [2]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477
| arcticbull wrote:
| They also sent a cease and desist to one of the folks making
| fun of them on twitter - for making fun of them, on twitter.
| [1]
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| [1]
| https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=...
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| Her responses are gold.
|
| > Dear legal team, I have removed all the false statements.
|
| > "cease and decease"
| perihelions wrote:
| That's a very effective way to inspire people to make fun of
| you, on Twitter.
| arcticbull wrote:
| Certainly a good example of the Streisand effect. [1]
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
| Hamuko wrote:
| Surprised they didn't just mint an NFT out of the song to prove
| ownership (or something).
| katmannthree wrote:
| After browsing OpenSea one may reasonably come to the
| conclusion that for every competent artist selling NFTs of
| their art, there are approximately 40,000 low-effort mspaint
| primates.
| pcwalton wrote:
| Or just straight-up stolen art. For every one artist selling
| NFTs of their own art, there are easily five NFTs sold by
| fraudsters misrepresenting themselves to have to right to do
| so.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Wasn't this the literally exact thing NFTs was supposed to
| prevent?
| RF_Savage wrote:
| Yet nothing in NFT's prevent it. Even if every artist
| minted everything they ever post as an NFT it would not
| prevent it.
|
| At most there would be a "first to file" authenthicity
| mechanism in the NFT storefronts like OpenSea.
| lottin wrote:
| No, NFTs serve no purpose. As far as use-cases go, they
| have none.
| jsheard wrote:
| It's impressive how quickly the NFT space has abandoned any
| semblance of selling unique artwork, and converged on ten
| thousand variants of "randomly generated animal pictures"
| with half of them being monkeys because they're cargo-culting
| Bored Ape Yacht Club. Ironically in trying to create "digital
| scarcity" they've lowered the bar to entry so far that their
| "scarce" assets are buried under an endless avalanche of
| nearly indistinguishable "scarce" assets. Market price is the
| only thing that would set them apart, but even that's
| meaningless due to the prevalence of wash trading.
| Traster wrote:
| Is it impressive? I would've thought this is exactly what
| we expected. Actual artists are off making stuff they can
| sell, and 99.99% of them don't know what an NFT is.
| Meanwhile there's a whole community of teenagers on the
| internet who don't make anything but _do_ know about NFTs.
|
| If you run the numbers on "artists who know/care about
| NFTs" vs "Idiots on the internet gullible enough to buy
| into anythin" I think 10,000:1 is _generous_.
| zoneone wrote:
| Why would you want to live in a theme-park on a remote jungle
| island in a volatile jurisdiction with a bunch of assholes?
| pavlov wrote:
| Isn't that the exact promise of El Salvador's Bitcoin City,
| except for the island part.
| runarberg wrote:
| I'm guessing they are trying to appeal to speculators who are
| gambling that the value of the property will increase. The
| business model might resemble a pyramid shape.
| habeebtc wrote:
| Some people cannot conceive of the thing falling apart and
| everyone dying of hunger and thirst.
|
| It is rather less tropical but Put In Bay fits the bill much
| better.
| netflixandkill wrote:
| The best place to get STDs in the great lakes.
| goodpoint wrote:
| Poe's law really applies here. I cannot believe this is not a
| parody.
| [deleted]
| TigeriusKirk wrote:
| Wow. This is amazing. Worth preserving for the ages, seriously.
|
| A crypto-island scheme has been a thing since the very early days
| of bitcoin. None of them ever get anywhere, of course.
|
| Now that I think about it, there was some sort of bitcoiner
| ranch/compound/village/utopia in some place like Chile or
| Argentina. I think it actually did get off the ground, but I
| don't remember hearing any more about it. I'll have to rabbit
| hole that soon.
|
| EDIT- It was in Chile, and it fell apart long ago.
| https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n...
| Eighth wrote:
| Hi gang. There was an older version of this video that was
| released first. This newer version has a lot of changes that give
| a bit of an insight into how they want to present themselves.
|
| Here's a twitter thread detailing the changes:
| https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093
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| The raw side-by-side video is here:
| https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi
| elilev wrote:
| This looks dumb af
| oleg_antonyan wrote:
| Poe's law in action: after watching this I cannot tell if this is
| 2nd order trolling or real thing
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