[HN Gopher] Show HN: ThinkType - Write Down Your Thoughts
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       Show HN: ThinkType - Write Down Your Thoughts
        
       Author : amadeuspagel
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2022-01-09 15:11 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | smilekzs wrote:
       | I use an existing product for this exact purpose: Google Keep.
       | 
       | ($insert_your_favorite_hate_for_google_products_here /s)
        
       | desireco42 wrote:
       | Look it is not perfect now, but this is really good area to work
       | on and innovate. Don't be discouraged by people comments, try to
       | find group that will like this.
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | Thanks. I'm not discouraged, I did get some positive comments,
         | and anyway I mainly work on it for myself.
        
       | The_rationalist wrote:
       | This is a great idea
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | Thanks.
        
       | bobiny wrote:
       | I'm looking for a quick notepad, so that time between having an
       | idea and writing it down is minimal, like using a camera on a
       | smartphone. App is a must, because I have a phone nearby most of
       | the time. In terms of UI, I don't want to select note, name it, I
       | just want to open it and write like in a paper notebook. Digital
       | is better because you can write in one hand in public transport.
       | Ideally this app is just blank space and cursor is automatically
       | placed one line after previous note -- so I don't have to tap
       | screen and double enter to skip a line.
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | > App is a must, because I have a phone nearby most of the
         | time.
         | 
         | Thinktype is a progressive web app, you can use it much like a
         | native app, it works offline.
         | 
         | > In terms of UI, I don't want to select note, name it, I just
         | want to open it and write like in a paper notebook.
         | 
         | Thinktype works just like that. You open the app and start
         | writing.
        
           | bobiny wrote:
           | I tried Thinktype on my iPhone -- added a shortcut to
           | homescreen. 1) I need to tap screen to start writing 2) I
           | need to save what I wrote -- can autosave happen in a browser
           | app? 2*) Save button moved off screen to the right 3) I think
           | new text should be at the bottom like in chat apps, but maybe
           | it's just my taste 4) I presume it wouldn't work offline?
        
             | amadeuspagel wrote:
             | > I need to tap screen to start writing
             | 
             | I think the issue here is that, though the cursor is in the
             | searchfield, the keyboard doesn't appear? I have no idea
             | how to handle this. Even if you could make the keyboard
             | appear automatically, it's also not obvious that you would
             | want to, because you might just want to read your notes.
             | (And then how to make it disappear?)
             | 
             | > I need to save what I wrote -- can autosave happen in a
             | browser app?
             | 
             | I've thought about that. Some issues:
             | 
             | - In thinktype, you write and search using the same field.
             | So autosave would also save every search.
             | 
             | - The notes id is the time that you saved it. Not sure how
             | I would handle that with autosave.
             | 
             | > Save button moved off screen to the right
             | 
             | Wow, that sucks. Can't replicate that, no idea what might
             | cause that. Can you post a screenshot? Is the issue that
             | the entire thing is too wide? Is it possible that you
             | zoomed in by mistake?
             | 
             | > I think new text should be at the bottom like in chat
             | apps, but maybe it's just my taste
             | 
             | I've thought about that. In my view, that makes sense at
             | best for one line texts. If you have longer texts, and you
             | want to read through all of them, then you have to keep
             | moving back and forth. Scroll through a note to read it,
             | scroll up again to find the previous note, and so on.
             | 
             | > I presume it wouldn't work offline?
             | 
             | It does work offline. Notes are stored locally using
             | IndexedDB, and the code is stored locally using the cache
             | interface of the service worker API.
        
               | bobiny wrote:
               | > It does work offline
               | 
               | That's very nice.
               | 
               | > In thinktype, you write and search using the same field
               | 
               | For my use I wouldn't care about search much. Most of
               | what I write is one-time information like a phone number
               | or some shopping list. Sometimes it's a thought that I
               | just want out there but it has no value beyond that
               | moment. And if an idea can be used in some of my projects
               | or become a seed for one, I'd want to catalogue it using
               | a structured app like Evernote or Standard Notes or any
               | other.
               | 
               | > Can you post a screenshot? Just sent you in an email
        
               | amadeuspagel wrote:
               | > For my use I wouldn't care about search much. Most of
               | what I write is one-time information like a phone number
               | or some shopping list. Sometimes it's a thought that I
               | just want out there but it has no value beyond that
               | moment. And if an idea can be used in some of my projects
               | or become a seed for one, I'd want to catalogue it using
               | a structured app like Evernote or Standard Notes or any
               | other.
               | 
               | I think there are lot of advantages of using one app for
               | all notes, and that's part of why I made thinktype. It
               | means you don't have to ask yourself where to write
               | something down and where you did write something down.
               | 
               | > Just sent you in an email
               | 
               | Thanks. So it does look like the entire thing is too
               | wide. I have no idea how to fix this, or even replicate
               | it, sorry.
        
               | bobiny wrote:
               | >I think there are lot of advantages of using one app for
               | all notes, and that's part of why I made thinktype. It
               | means you don't have to ask yourself where to write
               | something down and where you did write something down.
               | 
               | That's the idea behind most note-taking apps like iOS
               | notes or Bear or Google Keep. You can use tags, ad
               | images, lists and so on and so on.
               | 
               | But I dig that there are no folders or separate notes in
               | your app, just one roll.
        
               | amadeuspagel wrote:
               | There are seperate notes, but no folders. You don't need
               | or want folders if search is so easily accessible. Typing
               | "foobar" to see all your notes on "foobar" is faster then
               | clicking on your "foobar" folder.
        
         | leobg wrote:
         | I use Drafts app for this. It's in my dock. Tap icon. Type
         | text. Swipe and select where it should go: Evernote? Idea
         | journal? Dynalist? Email? Clipboard? You name it.
        
       | widea wrote:
       | Sure, trust my thoughts to the web...
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | Your thoughts are stored locally.
        
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       | pacifika wrote:
       | Interesting but I have thoughts away from my main work machine,
       | does this allow sharing between mobile and desktop?
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | No, not yet.
        
       | newaccount2021 wrote:
        
       | fattybob wrote:
       | Quite a few things out there that can manage that, I'm currently
       | using FSNotes on iOS, but for years I used simplenote /
       | notational velocity - as easy as it gets for data entry
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | Thinktype works a lot like notational velocity (write and
         | search at the same time), but it's actually even easier because
         | it doesn't have titles. You can write the entire note from the
         | searchfield. (I'm comparing it to a web app inspired by
         | notational velocity here[1], never used the original because I
         | don't have a mac.)
         | 
         | [1]: https://notational.co/
        
       | beingflo wrote:
       | Love the simplicity, does it store the notes in local storage?
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | Thanks. The notes are stored locally with IndexedDB.
        
           | ravenstine wrote:
           | Out of curiosity, how does it handle the storage limits
           | imposed by browsers? I've had a lot of ideas for browser apps
           | that use things like localStorage but got demotivated by the
           | low storage limits. It's fine if ThinkType doesn't address
           | it, but if it does I'd like to know how.
        
             | amadeuspagel wrote:
             | It doesn't use the localStorage, it uses IndexedDB. (It's a
             | bit confusing since IndexedDB also stores data locally.)
             | The storage limits for IndexedDB are far greater[1]. I've
             | used it for a long time and I have thousands of notes,
             | never had any problems.
             | 
             | [1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
             | US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_A...
        
       | antux wrote:
       | Here's a hot take that most people here won't agree with but the
       | query commands for sorting is hard to use because it forces me to
       | remember them. If I forget, I have to reread the paragraph which
       | slows me down.
       | 
       | This is bad UX because it's increasing my cognitive load to use
       | the interface instead of reducing it. It's much better to offer
       | toggle buttons for sorting.
        
         | amadeuspagel wrote:
         | I thought about that and actually had toggle buttons before.
         | But there are some advantages to the "syntax" UI:
         | 
         | - You can use the keyboard. Couldn't you use keyboard
         | shortcuts? Not that easy in the browser, because most shortcuts
         | are already taken, and though you can override them, that also
         | confuses people.
         | 
         | - You always see in the searchfield what search mode you're in.
         | The buttons would have to be in the sidebar, which isn't always
         | visible, depending on how wide the window is. And even if it's
         | visible, you still have to look there, whereas you're already
         | looking at the searchfield.
         | 
         | And it's not that hard to remember, it's kind of mnemonic:
         | Exclamation mark to sort by priority, because you use an
         | exclamation mark at the end of a sentence to mark it as
         | important. Star to sort by changes, because when you change a
         | file in a terminal text editor, you see a star next to the
         | name. I should probably explain this in the app.
         | 
         | ThinkType also has a kind of help UI. If you hit F1, you see
         | the keyboard shortcuts in the sidebar. (Only works if the
         | sidebar is visible.) Should also explain the query syntax
         | there.
        
           | smilekzs wrote:
           | > I should search my todo app and my notes app.
           | 
           | > What magic character did I have to type again?
           | 
           | > I should press F1 to figure out.
           | 
           | > What was the thought again?
        
             | amadeuspagel wrote:
             | You don't have to type any magic characters to search. You
             | only have to type magic characters if you want your results
             | sorted differently.
        
       | mwattsun wrote:
       | Suggested feature: export as a plain text file like
       | https://www.editpad.org
        
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