[HN Gopher] Death Clock
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       Death Clock
        
       Author : thepaulmcbride
       Score  : 98 points
       Date   : 2022-01-08 15:09 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (thedeathclock.co)
 (TXT) w3m dump (thedeathclock.co)
        
       | unyttigfjelltol wrote:
       | I have a more optimistic wall-mounted version of this timer.[1]
       | 
       | [1] https://shop-us.kurzgesagt.org/products/lifespan-calendar-
       | po...
        
       | jcims wrote:
       | Most folks have on the order of ~500,000 hours of consciousness
       | during their life.
        
       | cfjedimaster wrote:
       | I built another version of this about 30ish years ago, you can
       | see it now at www.deathclock.com. I sold the site about 15 years
       | ago (helped pay for an adoption). It was my first "successful"
       | website, getting near 5 million views per day. It was also a
       | useful programming exercise (learned the painful way that one
       | ColdFusion function wouldn't support large numbers and others
       | would, so had to do so wrangling to get the final number right).
       | 
       | The best part was the emails I'd get. Wow.
        
         | mysterydip wrote:
         | I thought I remembered seeing this before. Ah, ColdFusion,
         | those were the days. What version?
        
         | baxtr wrote:
         | What was so great about the emails? Fill us in!
        
         | sebow wrote:
        
         | karaterobot wrote:
         | > The best part was the emails I'd get. Wow.
         | 
         | What were the emails like?
        
         | parhamn wrote:
         | > The best part was the emails I'd get. Wow.
         | 
         | I've never been more curious. What sorts?
        
         | hackingthelema wrote:
         | I remember that site and it was actually what I was expecting
         | to see when I clicked on the OP! I feel like the version I
         | remember stumbling across had smoking but no BMI but I can't
         | corroborate it on archive.org
         | 
         | It hasn't changed much in 20 years, eh.
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20000520091843/http://www.deathc...
         | Really cool to see it's still up.
        
           | cfjedimaster wrote:
           | Smoking and BMI and other stuff came after I sold it. I used
           | to have hardware models too - I forget who I partnered with.
           | It never did earn any real $$.
        
         | peterpost2 wrote:
         | This is amazing.
         | 
         | This is going to sound stupid but your website is one of my
         | first memories I have of the internet. I was shown it by a
         | school friend (we were about ~8 years old) and I remember being
         | scared about the result, none of could read English well so
         | pretty sure we filled out nonsense for the weight input :)
        
           | jdmoreira wrote:
           | I have the almost exact same story as parent. Was around 10
           | years myself and remember using your website and being really
           | scared of what the outcome would be
        
       | agumonkey wrote:
       | Time is also function of your surroundings
       | 
       | Good job, good social network => life is just long enough.
       | 
       | Toxic job: life is a sluggish torture.
       | 
       | No job: life is going too fast and you have no time to choose
       | which direction is best.
        
       | thyrox wrote:
       | How many of you are waiting for X to happen before you can do Y?
       | Maybe we can share that so other people can give us their
       | insights.
       | 
       | For me, I naively quit my job last year joining the indie hacker
       | movement of creating my own online business. And now I'm just
       | obsessed with finishing it and getting it to the same mrr as my
       | last job's salary before I can do anything else.
       | 
       | I used to travel all the time but now all I can think of is my
       | daughter's future. Pretty hard to go live your life when your
       | financial situation becomes a mess :/
        
         | vmception wrote:
         | Reminds me of the meme "I quit my 9-5 and now I work 24/7"
         | 
         | If you have debt or obligations that you arent willing to
         | sacrifice or accept the consequences of sacrificing then don't
         | bother playing
         | 
         | But to answer your question, I started living for experiences
         | more after big financial losses. I noticed that I was saving
         | for something indeterminate and that after a loss I would have
         | just been better off going to that festival or taking that
         | vacation or something else consumptive
         | 
         | Eventually I got the inspiration and success to support my
         | obligations and experiences. Probably not related, many paths
         | possible, but I do think I meet more interesting people
         | traveling to events than I did in an office setting
        
       | rladd wrote:
       | Hmmm
       | 
       | YOU HAVE
       | 
       | NAN%
       | 
       | OF YOUR EXPECTED LIFESPAN
       | 
       | REMAINING
        
         | RotaryTelephone wrote:
         | Same. Not sure if should get my finances in order or am an
         | Eternal.
        
       | candlemas wrote:
       | Chris Crawford keeps two jars of marbles as a constant reminder
       | of this. http://www.erasmatazz.com/personal/self/sixty.html
        
       | lleb97a wrote:
       | Are you people getting NAN going to fight for the ultimate prize?
       | There can be only one...
        
         | spacemadness wrote:
         | Yes and it's giving me Logan's Run vibes. I will be at the
         | Carousel if anybody needs me.
        
       | soneca wrote:
       | _" YOU HAVE NAN% OF YOUR EXPECTED LIFESPAN REMAINING"_
       | 
       | I think I transcended life.
        
       | pkstn wrote:
       | Here's some more similar joy for saturday night:
       | https://codepen.io/pakastin/full/gvppqr
        
       | throw0101a wrote:
       | See also "Your Life in Weeks":
       | 
       | * https://www.bryanbraun.com/your-life/weeks.html
       | 
       | * https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/life-weeks.html
        
       | hungryforcodes wrote:
       | I like the concept -- but in my family the women live for a
       | really long time. My great grandmother was 99 when I met her as a
       | six year old. Most of my family (both genders) goes well into
       | their 90s.
       | 
       | It would be much more accurate if the clock started when one of
       | your parents or grand parents died and or could use that
       | information to create a more accurate final day.
        
       | moonbug wrote:
       | I welcome the undexpexted Life extension, but this thing can't
       | calculate percentages for shit.
        
       | grouphugs wrote:
        
       | dukeofdoom wrote:
       | Don't forget to plan it a little. Make to do lists and create
       | repeatable habits. A tip from a 60%: Life's better with a kayak
       | and a fishing pole.
        
       | sidcool wrote:
       | That's exactly the kind of existential crisis I was looking for
       | on a Saturday night.
        
         | pelagicAustral wrote:
         | I know, right? Apparently I'm at 54% completion of my life...
        
       | lowmagnet wrote:
       | Do anything for Dethklok.
        
         | oneepic wrote:
         | Gotta get those priorities straight before "hamburger time"
         | comes.
        
       | ivan_ah wrote:
       | There is a similar chrome extension you can setup to show up
       | every time you open a new tab:
       | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mortality-death-cl...
       | 
       | Friendly reminder not to waste some time, but work on important
       | things instead...
        
       | wombatmobile wrote:
       | "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage."
       | 
       | -- Anais Nin
        
       | vasilakisfil wrote:
       | This is so depressing, and I am left with just over 60%.I can't
       | imagine how someone would feel with just 10% or even less..
        
         | emerged wrote:
         | Mine said 61% and to me it seems like a crazy amount. It's hard
         | to imagine doing all the living I've already done all over
         | again and then some.
         | 
         | I think about 10 years ago I felt like I had already gotten
         | plenty enough out of life not to feel short changed. Still love
         | living, don't get me wrong.
        
           | beardyw wrote:
           | Don't worry. I've got 14% and I can assure you that years go
           | by at an alarming rate. It started for me at 40. 50 was on me
           | pretty quick but 60 was there before I knew it. Now it's all
           | just a blur. Probably best to do stuff now.
        
             | throwawayboise wrote:
             | Yep. 55 now, and the same. A year can pass and feel like
             | nothing. Especially the last two COVID years. Just feels
             | like a long nap sometimes. I think it's because as we get
             | older, our lives are not changing much. 0-10 years each
             | year brings big changes in our physical growth,
             | intellectual understanding of the world, literally every
             | day brings something new. 10-20 is similar, but the pace
             | starts to slow down. By the time you're 50, one year is
             | pretty much the same as the another. Kids are grown or
             | close to it, you're probably not job-hopping, you're
             | settled in your home. Everything is routine.
        
           | falcolas wrote:
           | Exactly. I hit 40 a few years back, and I'm statistically
           | likely to live _at least_ that long again. A lot happened in
           | 40 years, and I was not in control of my life for just shy of
           | half of that.
           | 
           | The next 40 is going to be interesting.
        
             | throwawayboise wrote:
             | The next 40 will feel like about 10 years, maybe less, from
             | the perception of your 20 year old self.
        
             | ejb999 wrote:
             | >>The next 40 is going to be interesting.
             | 
             | The next 20-25 will be interesting for you - after that you
             | will just be telling people to get off your lawn, and
             | making doctors appointments. ;>)
        
           | dilap wrote:
           | I'm about to turn 40, and I feel like perceptually life gets
           | faster and faster, which seems to be a common experience.
           | 
           | So in that sense you may not do all the living you've done
           | all over again and then some.
           | 
           | For example, I'd say my 30s felt half as a long as my 20s,
           | which themselves seemed to pass much faster than than 10-20,
           | which felt very long indeed. And childhood, 0-10, seemed like
           | an eternity!
           | 
           | This is true even at a micro level. E.g. a 3 hour car ride
           | now does not feel like a big deal to me, but it seemed almost
           | unbearably long to me as a child.
           | 
           | Another way in which you won't do as much living as you've
           | already done is that in your early years you went through
           | profound development -- both physically and mentally. That
           | doesn't happen again; we mature, we refine, and (sadly,
           | hopefully not too much), we decline, but it's nothing near as
           | profound as we get to experience early in life.
        
         | falcolas wrote:
         | They're rough averages, and I can't tell (it gave me NAN) if
         | they're taking your current age into account. You could die
         | tomorrow, but you also have a roughly equal chance to live into
         | your 100's. Every year you survive, you have a longer estimated
         | lifespan.
         | 
         | FWIW, as someone in their early 30's, the chances of you dying
         | this year are somewhere in the 1% range. But your life
         | expectancy has also gone up to 78/83 (male/female), from 76/81
         | where you were at birth.
        
         | tux3 wrote:
         | I get the same numbers, but the length is more than enough for
         | me. With only 10%, I'd still find the time to get bored and
         | kill time!
         | 
         | More interesting is the quality of life, not how long you have
         | =)
        
         | radekk wrote:
         | Still plenty of time. Live the life!
        
         | kordlessagain wrote:
         | Just remember, you make it depressing by feeling sad about a
         | future event. It's just a clock, which is probably wrong. All
         | manner of things could happen tomorrow to the person with 10%
         | left, like dropping dead from (whatever).
         | 
         | Or, you could find yourself in a much better place in a year,
         | and the time you spend doing that better is worth more in a
         | year than the last 5 years where it was not better.
         | 
         | All that we can be certain of is this very moment and not much
         | else. Live it up!
        
       | activitypea wrote:
       | I got NaN% of life remaining and I'm not sure if it's a bug or a
       | feature
        
       | baal80spam wrote:
       | Hm, I think it should at least ask for gender since it's quite an
       | important variable with regard to average lifespan.
        
       | bambax wrote:
       | This conflates life expectancy _at birth_ with your current life
       | expectancy. Those are wildly different.
       | 
       | They were even more different in the past when life expectancy at
       | birth was below 30, and most healthy adults lived past 70.
       | 
       | But they're still very different.
        
         | kurthr wrote:
         | LOL!
         | 
         | You have -3.8% of your expected lifespan remaining
         | 
         | I assumed they would get this right, how sad.
        
         | watwut wrote:
         | > most healthy adults lived past 70
         | 
         | Citation needed. Or, qualification of what you mean by "healthy
         | adult".
        
           | dahart wrote:
           | Here you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity
           | 
           | Human Longevity has been around 70-80 years for thousands of
           | years we know about, and possibly forever. It's one of the
           | common misunderstandings we get by learning about life
           | expectancy.. I misunderstood it for a long time until my
           | brother, an anthropologist, explained that there are
           | historical records of people living to be 80 years old from a
           | thousand and even 10,000 years ago. Life expectancy averages
           | in a bunch of causes of early death, so it skews the average
           | down. Longevity is what you're left with when you factor out
           | all the causes of early death. Life expectancy is going up
           | because we're eliminating the causes of early death mostly
           | via basic medicine, clean water, washing hands, anti-
           | bacterials. Not having wars helps. Vaccines help. Safer
           | houses & jobs help. Etc. Longevity appears to have been
           | increasing a little in the last century, possibly because
           | life expectancy and longevity aren't cleanly separable
           | (nobody dies of old age, they eventually die of a disease or
           | injury).
        
             | watwut wrote:
             | "Most adults" fall under "life expectancy after reaching
             | adulthood" rather then "longevity".
             | 
             | Adult young people and middle aged people died a lot more
             | then today. Whether due to incidents that were more common
             | and harder to treat or sicknesses.
             | 
             | If you limit the stats to "adults never never got seriously
             | sick and never got injured" then the comparison is
             | completely meaningless. Yeah, people did evolved to live
             | longer, but we do expect more treatment and health.
        
               | dahart wrote:
               | Sure, all adults fall under life expectancy from their
               | current age. It's always a Bayesian statistic. The
               | comment you replied to might be off by ~10 or even ~20
               | years -- depending heavily on what year and location
               | we're talking about -- but it's still a valid point and
               | it has always been true that surviving childhood to be 20
               | years old gave you a dramatically higher probability of
               | leading a long life. The plot @kqr posted demonstrates
               | this over the last 300 years.
        
         | kqr wrote:
         | One of my favourite simple plots:
         | https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2013/05/Life-expectancy-b...
        
           | luckman212 wrote:
           | What's with that huge drop in life expectancy between
           | 1910-1920?
        
             | owlninja wrote:
             | Influenza epidemic of 1918 possibly?
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu
        
             | mmcwilliams wrote:
             | I would expect WWI had something to do with that. Spanish
             | Flu as well.
        
             | DaveExeter wrote:
             | World War I?
        
             | HPsquared wrote:
             | I wonder if there will be a similar dip in 2020-21.
        
               | eCa wrote:
               | A dip, but nothing like the 1910's. I've heard a
               | rediction of up to two years. Covid mostly killed older
               | people, while WW1 for obvious reasons mostly killed young
               | people, therefore having a greater effect on life
               | expectancy.
        
               | kqr wrote:
               | Not visibly, no. Several reasons, where the most obvious
               | is that our medical care and availability of information
               | has massively improved. Another is that the 1918 pandemic
               | hit young and healthy people disproportionately.
        
         | mbg721 wrote:
         | I think the tables that actuaries use are publicly available
         | and account for that. The thing to watch for would be that
         | you're not using something with a lot of built-in conservatism
         | meant for life insurance statutory compliance.
        
           | everybodyknows wrote:
           | > life insurance statutory compliance.
           | 
           | Interesting -- can you elaborate on whatever unrealities are
           | forced upon life insurers by government?
        
             | mbg721 wrote:
             | It's not unrealities, it's just that you want some cushion
             | before your life insurer goes bankrupt. That's why
             | statutory and GAAP are different accounting standards.
        
       | rpastuszak wrote:
       | "YOU HAVE         NAN%         OF YOUR EXPECTED LIFESPAN
       | REMAINING"
       | 
       | Fair enough
        
         | baxtr wrote:
         | Reminds me of the "And all I got was a NaN!" T-Shirts.
        
         | henriquez wrote:
         | The author must have taken inspiration from Death Note.
        
       | toss1 wrote:
       | Nice as a generic reminder, but I'd really want to see it use a
       | bit more empirical data for a semi-realistic projection of
       | biological age/lifespan, e.g., taking into account health
       | conditions & habits. Heck, just taking in smoking, obesity, &
       | exercise data would make a huge difference.
       | 
       | Edit: Also, just he focus on what one has lost (or in this case,
       | spent), seems a tad counterproductive to extending one's
       | healthspan...
        
       | bwb wrote:
       | Love it, i always wanted to buy a watch that did this and not
       | time :)
        
         | chrischapman wrote:
         | Excellent idea. If they tied it to a fitness calculator it
         | would show your life extending when you exercise and shrinking
         | when you don't. Spend more time on the couch and watch your
         | life get shorter. Go for a long walk and watch it grow longer.
         | Seems like a pretty good motivator. Don't show me how many
         | steps I've taken. Just show me how much life I have left. I
         | would buy one!
        
           | bwb wrote:
           | Ya! That would be pretty sweet as well, I figure someone has
           | an app like this for the apple watch maybe?
           | 
           | I'd love one that is e-ink or something super low energy if
           | it is just doing a countdown to death. I love watches that
           | don't tell time.
        
       | _ttg wrote:
       | I can't put my finger on it but I always find this
       | modern(Americanized?) peddling of stoicism too pretentious and
       | vapid as to be not only useless but actively off-putting to me.
       | The fact that life is short is already central to most adults and
       | I don't see what purpose any of these reminders serve except to
       | seem high-minded (and annoying). The faux precision of this
       | "clock" also bothers me but that's a different story.
        
         | ngngngng wrote:
         | I've found some use for it. For example, I'm a significantly
         | better parent when I take time in the morning to remind myself
         | that I might die today. Similarly useful is reminding yourself
         | that your family members might die today.
        
           | mherdeg wrote:
           | I don't know if the calculator at seeyourfolks.com has guided
           | any of my decisions differently but it guides some thinking.
        
         | trgn wrote:
         | Let me take a try why you feel that way. (I might be wrong).
         | 
         | Stoicism is very easily repurposed, because it is divorced from
         | a religious praxis, and therefore easily assimilated. It is
         | pithy and vague enough too, its maxims can fit on a bumper
         | sticker. "Life is short!", honk if you agree.
         | 
         | The appeal for stoicism today is because it is aspirational; we
         | no longer recognize the stoic hero in ourselves and our
         | neighbors. Yet, we would wish we could marshal the inner
         | strength we imagine the stoics of the past possessed.
         | 
         | When people broadcast stoic wisdom over twitter, or memes, or
         | ted-talks, or through any other channels that exemplify the
         | trite and vain nature of contemporary consumer media, it seems
         | to scream despair, rather than confidence. A toddler trying to
         | convince themselves they are not scared in the basement, if
         | only they say it a loud enough.
         | 
         | Mu hunch is that is why you find a website like this annoying.
         | Packaged for the internet, bland, vague, fast food for the
         | brain.
         | 
         | I would agree. Up to a point.
         | 
         | Life is short indeed, gam gam has it on a plaque above her
         | fireplace, she bought it in a trinket shop in Gatlinburg.
         | 
         | What is equally important, but unsaid, is what comes after.
         | Both the stoic and hedonist will accept the premise, but will
         | activate it very differently. Will you dedicate yourself to the
         | future, or will you dedicate the present to yourself. I don't
         | think that website makes any recommendation on the matter.
        
           | _ttg wrote:
           | Exactly right. Essentially the consumerist, "fast food for
           | the brain" idea is what I was struggling to point out. Having
           | read a little of this thread though, I'm more open to the
           | idea that even what seems to me as fluff is pretty useful as
           | a regular centering mechanism so I'm just moderately
           | indifferent instead of annoyed now.
        
             | recuter wrote:
             | All the old ideas, everything good, is always rediscovered
             | and repackaged over and over again. Don't let others yuck
             | your yum.
        
         | AutumnCurtain wrote:
         | To me, it rings false because the people who propagate it so
         | rarely face "real" adversity. I would be more interested in the
         | stoicism of a broke guy scrapping just to exist than the
         | stoicism of rich white tech bros. Yes, everyone faces adversity
         | of some kind, but these lectures ring so false when the
         | lecturer sits firmly in the top 1% of global and historic
         | wealth.
        
           | watwut wrote:
           | Stoicism of broke guy will be framed as passivity, laziness
           | and cause of his brokenness in the first place. That guy is
           | supposed to hustle.
        
       | gscho wrote:
       | I have NaN time remaining?
        
         | plandis wrote:
         | I have " Application error: a client-side exception has
         | occurred" time. Perhaps I'm actually a robot and this is it :(
        
           | fart32 wrote:
           | On the flip side, remaining lifetime is now much less
           | relevant issue to you.
        
           | germinalphrase wrote:
           | I receive that error as well. Specifically, after clicking
           | the settings button at top of screen. Viewing on iPhone.
        
         | falcolas wrote:
         | Same. I don't trust sites in general, so I gave a Jan 1 of my
         | actual birth year. It didn't like it.
        
       | ig0r0 wrote:
       | not impressed:
       | 
       | YOU HAVE NAN% OF YOUR EXPECTED LIFESPAN REMAINING
        
       | nnoitra wrote:
       | Why do we have to die?
        
       | abletonlive wrote:
       | jokes on you I'm on rapamycin and I'm going to live forever
        
         | tobyjsullivan wrote:
         | accidents happen and nobody's luck lasts forever ;)
        
       | thepaulmcbride wrote:
       | Well this kinda popped off more that I expected it to!
       | 
       | A bit of background about this and how it was built: I started
       | back to work this week after some time off over Christmas. This
       | year the company I worked for decided to hold a creative week to
       | help get us back into work. I ended up being just 3 days as we
       | presented them all to each other on Friday.
       | 
       | I know this is definitely still rough around the edges, it was
       | just something I slapped together in a few days. Conflating life
       | expectance to where you are born is obviously not perfect, but
       | again, only had a few days.
       | 
       | If anyone is interested in how it work, or wants to fix the
       | things that annoy them about it, pull requests are welcome!
       | 
       | https://github.com/ThePaulMcBride/the-death-clock
        
         | rex-mundi wrote:
         | One small improvement might be to make it so that it creates a
         | url which the user can go back to without entering the data
         | again.
         | 
         | That way they can bookmark it / share if they want.
        
           | thepaulmcbride wrote:
           | Oh good call!
        
       | textcortex wrote:
       | I love this! It fits perfectly with the stoic approach to life.
       | Memento Mori..
        
       | vincentmarle wrote:
       | I'd say lower your expectations even further to reach true
       | happiness: always expect to die _tomorrow_ and adjust your
       | lifestyle and the way you treat your loved ones accordingly.
       | 
       | Or in Montaigne's words: to philosophize is to learn to die
       | http://homepages.wmich.edu/~rvr5407/3140readings/That%20to%2...
        
         | DarylZero wrote:
         | Montaigne said that he didn't understand why someone who was
         | writing a book would care whether they died before finishing
         | it.
        
         | quadrangle wrote:
         | The real trick: expect to die in a _minute_.
         | 
         | No joke. The Buddhist perspective gets into that. The idea of
         | dying _tomorrow_ sets you up to worry about making the most of
         | the future of the rest of the day, and you 're still not really
         | present. When we consider that these few breaths or bites or
         | moments might be our last, we can release all the clinging and
         | aversion because it's too late to do anything but be profoundly
         | aware of being alive in this moment. And given that we usually
         | don't just die, we get to experience that sense of life-
         | flashing-before-your-eyes and immediate sense of love and
         | compassion, and still an aspiration to make the very most of
         | each moment (including planning for the future since that might
         | be a thing).
         | 
         | This might be the final sentence you read. So, there's no
         | reason to live each day as your last. It's okay to live each
         | moment in whatever way it shows up. It's all we have, and
         | there's nothing to do but to be aware of it. And, remarkably
         | enough, once we stop striving and just let go, we magically
         | find ourselves more attuned to our deepest values of love and
         | compassion.
         | 
         | This writing might be the last action I ever do. Love to
         | everyone and everything
        
       | u2077 wrote:
       | Time is the most valuable thing you have. Use it wisely.
        
         | bryanrasmussen wrote:
         | considering the UX of this site I will be doing so by not using
         | it.
        
           | thepaulmcbride wrote:
           | Alright, it's open source, I built it in a few hours. Pull
           | requests are welcome.
        
       | JKCalhoun wrote:
       | Seems broken? Tells me I have 60-some percent of my life
       | remaining (I was born 1964, when I return to settings it seems
       | stuck on 1992 - for which 60% would make sense).
        
         | gshubert17 wrote:
         | Seems broken to me too. I put in 1926 for my 96-year-old dad
         | and it says 61% remaining. Which would be great, but I don't
         | expect him to live to 246 (of which 39% lived so far would
         | equal 96).
         | 
         | A calculator which is much easier for me to use and gives more
         | reasonable results is
         | https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/population/longevity.html Its inputs
         | are gender and date of birth. Gender has a big effect on life
         | expectancy. This one shows 2.7 years left and a total estimated
         | lifespan of 98.7 years. By this calculation he has about 3% of
         | his life remaining.
        
         | bagels wrote:
         | You hav to select a specific date, even if you've selected the
         | month and year. It also uses expectancy at birth, not at
         | current age. Pretty useless.
        
           | JKCalhoun wrote:
           | You're absolutely right, I missed entering the day of the
           | month. Year + Month was not enough.
           | 
           | Easy bug to fix? LASt the very least I expect it to pick
           | _some_ arbitrary day of the month I enter.
           | 
           | I should tell my dad though that he is has about 13 weeks
           | left to live. (Or should?)
        
         | emerged wrote:
         | Hey don't question it, just go enjoy your remaining 60% of
         | life! Congrats!
        
         | wheybags wrote:
         | I was born in 1992, so all my testing passed - ship it!
        
           | jstx1 wrote:
           | At first I didn't even notice that you can give it year of
           | birth and I was wondering how it knows when I was born.
        
         | unemphysbro wrote:
         | You're doing something right ;)
        
       | rootusrootus wrote:
       | Getting all the way back to the 70s took a couple minutes of
       | patient tapping on my phone, only to get told I have NAN left.
       | What a let down.
        
         | jimmaswell wrote:
         | You can tap the year to select a year
        
         | umbauk wrote:
         | You can just click on the year to scroll back quickly
        
           | falcolas wrote:
           | A shame there's no affordance to indicate that this is
           | available.
        
             | thepaulmcbride wrote:
             | Yeah, fair point. I'll try to improve that. Any idea on how
             | you'd want to see it done?
        
               | rootusrootus wrote:
               | I'd separate the year and month and make the year
               | controls visible.
               | 
               | But all of my UI design work is targeted at internal
               | tools where looking good is way down the list below ease
               | of use, so take my opinion with a grain of salt for
               | anything customer facing.
        
               | thedragonline wrote:
               | Ex: A down arrow button attached directly to the right
               | side of the year input field. Make it a deeper blue and
               | then wrap a 1 or 2 pixel wide rectangle around the field
               | itself of that same color.
        
               | buildsjets wrote:
               | Well, the web 1.0 way to indicate that text was clickable
               | was to make it blue and underlined. What was so wrong
               | with that convention?
        
       | flubflub wrote:
       | I don't think you are obligated to live your life or even enjoy
       | it. It is a very nice bonus if you enjoy your life and feel that
       | you are living your life.
       | 
       | There isn't a duty to make the most of whatever period you are
       | in. You don't have to die without regrets as you get to choose
       | how you live for a large part.
       | 
       | If you die with regrets it means that there was a glimmer of
       | vibrancy, maybe a sense of dreaming as you die albeit negative.
        
       | throwhauser wrote:
       | I think there's a bug, if you put in a birth date in the 1930s
       | for the USA, it says you have negative time remaining.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | coldtea wrote:
         | It's the countdown
        
       | joering2 wrote:
       | this is so silly obviously... we need similar website when you
       | assume it really know so it asks you 50 questions including
       | whether you smoke, etc, etc and at the end it shows you this:
       | "nobody knows when you die, but assume you may be dead tomorrow
       | morning. So do you: [checklist] - have a last will? - made sure
       | you told your family how much you love them? - made sure your
       | life insurance is up to date? - made sure you give banking
       | credentials to your spouse or parent so that they don't have to
       | wait months before government and courts do their job. etc etc"
       | 
       | That would be somewhat more useful....
        
       | johnny313 wrote:
       | This reminds me of momento mori, a philosophical / artistic
       | practice of remembering your own death [0].
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori
        
       | ngngngng wrote:
       | Do we have enough data to make this much more precise based on
       | personal information? Seems like much of the useful data would be
       | locked behind medical privacy laws but I would love to see one
       | that took into account current health conditions, maybe even
       | hereditary circumstances.
        
       | yololol wrote:
       | For those who don't know:
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori
        
         | 0xbadcafebee wrote:
         | This is my coffee mug: https://imgur.com/a/fOtuu7u
        
       | a0-prw wrote:
       | I have negative time left. I beat the clock ;)
        
       | jokoon wrote:
       | This belongs to an edgy subreddit
        
       | webwielder2 wrote:
       | Feeling bad that you're not using your time to the max is one of
       | the worst ways to use your time.
        
         | tluyben2 wrote:
         | You can spend a minute to think about it though; I know too
         | many people who were going to really enjoy themselves after
         | getting their pension only to find out they actually hate not
         | working or that they in fact hate their hobbies (fishing might
         | be nice 1 hour a month when you are relaxing from work, but
         | suddenly having 16 hours 7 days a week to fish drives many
         | insane) (and so wasting 10+ years being angry, depressed and
         | searching) or dying too quickly after. It is strange how people
         | who never 'had a little house in Spain (or whatever) in that
         | pitoresk village' plan their entire life to that that point
         | thinking it is nirvana while they could have done that all
         | along.
         | 
         | I know millionaire managers/directors of my age (around 50) say
         | this for the past 20+ years and when I ask why they do not do
         | it now because a) you might not like it b) you might not make
         | it, they seem to find many excuses, some of which are even
         | money related (and they have millions _now_ ).
        
         | xwdv wrote:
         | So many people are saving up their happiness for a day when
         | they feel like they can finally be allowed to truly be happy.
         | Sometimes, the day never comes, and the happiness has expired.
        
           | dahart wrote:
           | About 10 years ago I moved onto a wonderfully quiet street
           | that has only old people. All three of my immediate neighbors
           | (either side plus straight across the street) were couples
           | that had just retired and had been saving for a long time in
           | order to go traveling. Two of the men got too sick to travel
           | and died within a year. The remaining man got sick and almost
           | died, but he's hanging on. He and his wife both too sick to
           | travel. My wife now reminds me weekly that we need to get our
           | travel and adventure in now before we retire, and not wait.
           | Actively working on it...
        
             | DougN7 wrote:
             | I appreciate the idea, but what about preparing for the
             | future? Money spent now doesn't compound for later. I'm
             | concerned about not being a burden later or leaving my wife
             | without enough. There is surely a balance but without a
             | crystal ball I wonder how to find it.
        
               | DarylZero wrote:
               | There's life insurance.
        
             | throwawayboise wrote:
             | Travel is the last thing I would want to do, especially if
             | I'm old, but that's just me.
             | 
             | The rest of it is pretty accurate. My dad lived about 3
             | years after he retired, half of that he was too sick to do
             | very much. My mom lived another 6 years after that but the
             | last couple of years were not what anyone would really call
             | living.
             | 
             | Don't assume you'll be a vital, active, world traveler at
             | age 80. It might work out that way, it might not.
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | Watch a couple of YouTubers that live in the road in their
             | RV. Same story: woman had worked in a hospital and saw an
             | old couple who had just begun living their lives in their
             | "golden years" but the wife ended up dying -- the husband
             | was floored at this turn of events in their plans.
             | 
             | he YouTubers hit the road while they still could. Are
             | enjoying themselves in a way many of us (still) only dream
             | about.
             | 
             | Life is short, kids.
        
             | xwdv wrote:
             | The early part of life is the best time to spend money on
             | travel and experiences. In the late part of life, one
             | should spend money on the material things that provide
             | passive satisfaction and don't require too much physical
             | effort. People often get these backwards.
        
               | throwawayboise wrote:
               | The problem is if you spend all your money when you are
               | young, you won't have any to spend on "material things
               | that provide passive satisfaction" when you are old. Time
               | value of money and compounding gains is a powerful thing.
               | 
               | On the other hand, if you are old and wealthy, you may be
               | too frail to do anything.
               | 
               | It's a tricky balance, with no guarantees.
        
               | xwdv wrote:
               | People are so afraid of being an old frail man too poor
               | to live that they hoard every dollar they have, not
               | realizing they'll be dead soon anyway.
        
               | throwawayboise wrote:
               | Yes, and the last part is why I'm more interested in
               | passing an inheritance to my kids than I am with doing
               | anything with the money myself. The money my parents left
               | me largely paid for my kids' college education. I haven't
               | really spent it on anything else; I have everything I
               | really need, and feel like "paying forward" is the best
               | thing I can do with it.
        
         | jimhefferon wrote:
         | Also unfruitful is clicking backwards to 1958.
        
           | ejb999 wrote:
           | Quick tip: clicking on the year gets you to pick the year at
           | least - no way I was going to click all the way back one
           | month at a time.
        
       | samwillis wrote:
       | As an aside, I really dislike the style of date picker they are
       | using. I always find them so cumbersome.
       | 
       | If you are designing a website/web app please use a html input
       | type=date, at least on more modern devices and provide a fallback
       | for older ones. The UX for date selection in modern browsers is
       | very well thought through.
       | 
       | Apologies for being off topic.
       | 
       | EDIT:
       | 
       | This shouldn't be the top comment, you should probably stop
       | upvoting (currently 18)... I probably shouldn't have posted it
       | even.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | " _Please don 't complain about tangential annoyances--things
         | like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-
         | button breakage. They're too common to be interesting._"
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
           | Zababa wrote:
           | The website is made to show you how much time you have left,
           | to highlight that time is precious. To get this reminder, you
           | have to enter your date through a date picker. This date
           | picker is cumbersome, and makes you waste time. I think this
           | is not a tangential annoyance, but a central one. Those two
           | things are in opposition, and this detracts a lot from the
           | message of this website. If time is so precious, why is my
           | time wasted by an unknown file picker with a foreign
           | interface?
        
           | samwillis wrote:
           | Apologies dang, I regret the post. Quite right pushing it to
           | the bottom where it rightly should be.
        
         | wyclif wrote:
         | When I saw that I immediately said, "There is no way I'm going
         | to click that many times like a rat in a lab experiment" and
         | closed the tab.
        
         | cirrus3 wrote:
         | I almost gave up using it due to the year picker. If I can see
         | the year I should be able to click it, but on this one you
         | actually have to scroll down until it is no longer faded at
         | all.
        
         | reidjs wrote:
         | Unfortunately html input type=date rarely works in mobile
         | browsers.
        
           | samwillis wrote:
           | Don't really want to continue an off topic discussion but it
           | is widely supported and you can conditionally load a fall
           | back easily.
           | 
           | https://caniuse.com/input-datetime
        
           | [deleted]
        
       | whalesalad wrote:
       | I have NAN% life remaining :(
        
         | weregiraffe wrote:
         | Well, your life is not a number.
        
         | t212 wrote:
         | Yep me too.
        
         | thepaulmcbride wrote:
         | Ha, that sounds like a bug. Unless you're a ghost? I built this
         | in a couple of days, so definitely still have a few bugs!
        
       | crate_barre wrote:
       | This thing should really ask when your oldest relatives on both
       | your mother's and father's side died or what their age is
       | currently, along with basic health conditions like weight,
       | diabetes, hypertension, etc, and what your job/family situation
       | is (kids, no kids, divorced, high stress industry, low stress
       | industry, etc), and debt to income ratio.
        
       | jvilalta wrote:
       | Not sure about the stoic piece, as time you have left falls into
       | the category of can't control and therefore not something you
       | should worry about. Worry about what you can control in the
       | "whatever time" you have left
        
       | kmbfjr wrote:
       | I'd like to play, but this UI design is awful. Talk about
       | encouraging someone to view their remaining time as precious,
       | someone born Jan 1, 1970 can expect to tap or click 240 time to
       | get past the first question.
       | 
       | Edit: found you can click the year, but why not just enter my
       | full birthdate?
        
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