[HN Gopher] Ideas Want to Be Shared
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Ideas Want to Be Shared
Author : exrook
Score : 34 points
Date : 2022-01-06 11:16 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| qnsi wrote:
| I think we should just abolish all patents
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| https://web.archive.org/web/20120329153458/https://www.paten...
| disintegore wrote:
| It was never more than a patchwork attempt to force the market
| economy where it didn't belong
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| I don't know the solution. I don't know how we determine a better
| solution.
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| I do know that once you publicly share an idea without somehow
| copyrighting it, people will run with it and the originator can
| get badly screwed financially by people talented at essentially
| intellectual theft and lining their own pockets who have an
| absence of ethics and are too stupid to see that screwing their
| source is not in their long-term best interest.
| soperj wrote:
| And with patents no one who originates an idea gets screwed?
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| I said no such thing. Please don't put words in my mouth.
| soperj wrote:
| I didn't. It was a question.
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| The article under discussion covers the fact that patents
| aren't perfect in that regard. They cover the first
| person who stakes their claim, which may not actually be
| the originator.
| cwkoss wrote:
| Accept that ideas are low value. If you love the idea, set it
| free.
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| My time, knowledge and expertise in developing an idea is not
| cheap and I need to eat. A local organization has been
| stealing my ideas and actively shafting me for absolutely no
| reason other than they are awful people.
|
| They nominally do economic development. I was happy to freely
| provide ideas but I did expect it to be a networking
| opportunity and a means to build my professional reputation
| and local contacts and thereby enhance my income.
|
| That has not happened.
|
| I quit going to meetings because I was tired of their abusive
| treatment of me and now they cyber stalk me and continue to
| steal my ideas, give me zero credit, etc so some local cretin
| and his awful bosses can pretend they are worth the money
| that the city pays them.
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| I am getting nothing out of this at all. They can't even be
| bothered to tell people where they get their ideas so my
| reputation would be enhanced.
|
| I continue to be dirt poor. I have done everything in my
| power to play by the rules as I understand them and the
| result remains the same both online and off: People think I'm
| wonderful. They think I have great ideas. They also think I
| should do everything out of the goodness of my heart instead
| of for pay and everyone turns a deaf ear to the fact that I
| am dirt poor, going hungry and desperately need more earned
| income.
|
| I have a real problem here, your platitudes not withstanding.
| csdvrx wrote:
| Do like Atlas: shrug, and start working on what you
| perceive to be important problem within the right
| environment, a set of people that recognize your value and
| share their own values with you.
| DoreenMichele wrote:
| I'm doing my best to do exactly that. But it's not easy
| to simply cut these people out. If it were, I would have
| already done so. It's not like I haven't tried.
| cwkoss wrote:
| An idea that no one is willing to pay for is effectively
| worthless.
|
| Nobody gets rich from ideas, they get rich from execution.
|
| An unexecuted idea which is kept secret has zero impact on
| the world except inflating the ideators ego.
| csbartus wrote:
| I guess this is already happening in web development, at least,
| but we've seen in operating systems and perhaps everywhere code
| (GPT-3]
|
| And if software eats the world, perhaps it will eat patents, too,
| uniqueuid wrote:
| Just as a comment for anyone new enough to not remember the
| historical background:
|
| The title is alluding to the famous quote "information wants to
| be free" by Steward Brand. The full quote famously includes the
| opposite as well, because information "wants to be expensive
| because it's so valuable".
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| Kevin Kelly as an early collaborator of Brand of course knows
| this intimately.
|
| There is a wonderful and very insightful book on Brand, by the
| way, called "From Counterculture to Cyberculture" by Fred Turner.
| [1]
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| [1] https://fredturner.stanford.edu/books/from-counterculture-
| to...
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